Grand L5740, cost to add remotes and third function?

[cstamm81]

I知 in the market for a used Grand 40 series. I found what appears to be a clean one about an hour from me, but it has no remotes or third function.
On the third function, it looks like everyone likes the WR Long kit that costs about a grand. Is the factory Kubota setup cheaper or better in any way?
On the rear remotes, I am after 3 of them. I want to run a top n tilt and have a spare. I壇 like to add a backhoe at some point in time. I壇 also like the ability to run a log splitter on the front or rear of the machine, only to break up really big chunks, not for everyday splitting. Are there aftermarket options for these? Any clue how much the factory setup costs? I want to utilize the factory intended spaces for rear remotes if possible, I壇 like to set this thing up as ergonomically correct as possible.
Thanks in advance for any input.

 

[Peter 315]

To do all that 3k or more with kubota parts..........:2cents:

 

[cstamm81]

I knew it wouldn稚 be cheap.... the machine is priced kind of high seeing as it lacks any remotes, no cab, no backhoe. I want one without a cab, as I have trees everywhere and I get on and off constantly. That said, there are some deals out there for units with cabs, I致e seen ones with cabs and hoes for really good prices.

 

[Peter 315]

Go on kubota's website and price out the options on a new machine that size and see what it costs should be close.....

 

[buckeyefarmer]

You don’t run the backhoe from rear remotes.
$2500 - $3000 if you install yourself

 

[SDT]

To do all that 3k or more with kubota parts..........:2cents:

Probably closer to $4k including installation.

SDT

 

[cstamm81]

Are they any viable aftermarket options for the 3 rear remotes?

 

[Peter 315]

people use this place ....Hydraulics | www.surpluscenter.com

 

[buckeyefarmer]

Much easier installing the kubota ones that have all the pieces to fit exactly. I did the install on my L5030 and it was pretty easy. There are pics and threads on TBN.

 

[MtnViewRanch]

Are they any viable aftermarket options for the 3 rear remotes?

To the best of my knowledge there are no 3rd party valve kits that make use of the factory valve lever slots. That's not to say that it can't be done, but be prepared to spend some time working it all out if you decide to go that way.

With your fitment requirements, I would plan on the factory Kubota sets. Just be aware that the Kubota valves are known to have some internal leakage which allows the cylinder to extend on it's own. Drifting rates vary from not enough to worry about to this makes the implement unusable.

On a side note, get at least 2 of the rear remotes with the float feature to be used with the T&T cylinders.

 

[cstamm81]

Thanks for all of the replies gentlemen. Not sure if anyone will see this question, but any ideas how much it costs to add a front (mid) PTO to a 40 series grand? I'm guessing that won't be cheap either. I guess I'm realizing in dollars why everyone recommends getting machines with all the extras at the time of purchase. This particular machine is a really clean 5740 with 1500 hours, for $25k. Adding all the hydraulics will be 3 to 4k, mid PTO adds more, and the goal of adding a backhoe adds another $5k bare minimum, if I'd be lucky enough to find a used one with the subframe. This same seller had a really clean L45 a few months back, with a rear remote and obviously a hoe, for $28k. The price of used machines really starts to vary wildly when you get into add ons and backhoes.

 

[Peter 315]

Maybe 4 to 5 hundred .... I would look for a tractor already set up..... 3 rear remotes plus 3rd function plus backhoe hook up plus mid pto..............:confused2:

 

[moship]

With respect to post 11.

Adding the mid PTO is rather simple and reasonably priced. Unfortunately you'll need to confirm if this tractor has the internal gear to drive it. Although only a few hundred bucks, the tractor needs to be split for the installation of the internal gear.

I've attached a copy of the wholegoods document you can read to gain a better understanding of the situation. Also suggest you contact your local dealer with SN in hand to see if they can decipher if it was built with the internal gear. Also have the dealer verify the information about internal gear as these documents can be wrong or superseded. Ignore the prices as the document is old and will need to be confirmed. At least you're armed with info to be better educated.

Kubota Backhoe BH92 new will be close to $11,000 once installed.



Good luck

 

[FatTire]

Note that WR Long says their 3rd function valve is not sized to run a hydraulic motor such as a rotary broom. I wonder if that means there is an issue running a hydraulic auger?

If you end up finding a good deal on a machine with a backhoe, it will be plumbed with the power beyond port which is perfect for running a 3 point log splitter.

If you keep looking you might find an L5740 with some or all of the valves you want. For the cost of a pair of remotes or a 3rd function valve you could ship a tractor quite a distance. After months of looking, I found a 5 yr old cab L5740 with only 105 hours at a dealer in Wisconsin and then had them add what I needed (subframe and plumbing for a BH92 that I already owned, 3rd function valve, and a second rear remote w/float) then shipped it to Colorado. The dealer in Wisconsin quoted about $550 less for installing all that stuff than my local dealer, so maybe they were happy with what they were making on the 5740, or maybe my dealer here was sore that I wasn't buying an L6060 from them.

 

[Herkypilot]

The WR Long kit is electric over hydraulic and isn’t designed to be a constant “on” type setup. That’s why it isn’t designed for what you stated. I use mine for a grapple which works well. I haven’t tried it with a hydraulic posthole digger, but it would probably work fine for that.

 

[cstamm81]

This is fantastic info, could save me and others a ton of money and grief, thanks so much!

With respect to post 11.

Adding the mid PTO is rather simple and reasonably priced. Unfortunately you'll need to confirm if this tractor has the internal gear to drive it. Although only a few hundred bucks, the tractor needs to be split for the installation of the internal gear.

I've attached a copy of the wholegoods document you can read to gain a better understanding of the situation. Also suggest you contact your local dealer with SN in hand to see if they can decipher if it was built with the internal gear. Also have the dealer verify the information about internal gear as these documents can be wrong or superseded. Ignore the prices as the document is old and will need to be confirmed. At least you're armed with info to be better educated.

Kubota Backhoe BH92 new will be close to $11,000 once installed.



Good luck

 

[cstamm81]

I believe I had read that the WR Long valve will heat up too much if running an auger or broom. I took it as, momentary use only.

I agree, I'm going to have to wait and find a Grand 40 or even an L45 that has most of what I want already. Unless I could get a screaming deal, I'd be wasting tons of money to add everything after the purchase. With the 40 series Grands, what makes them harder to find for me, is the fact that most have cabs. I have seen some set up exactly the way I want, BH, valves and all, for under 30k. But, they have cabs (which makes them an even better deal), and I will destroy a cab on my property, plus I am hopping on an off my machine constantly.

I'm keeping an eye on the used tractor sites nationwide, and the local Kubota dealers, and FB marketplace. I'm sure something will pop up, and this thread has educated me greatly, so I thank you all for that.

Note that WR Long says their 3rd function valve is not sized to run a hydraulic motor such as a rotary broom. I wonder if that means there is an issue running a hydraulic auger?

If you end up finding a good deal on a machine with a backhoe, it will be plumbed with the power beyond port which is perfect for running a 3 point log splitter.

If you keep looking you might find an L5740 with some or all of the valves you want. For the cost of a pair of remotes or a 3rd function valve you could ship a tractor quite a distance. After months of looking, I found a 5 yr old cab L5740 with only 105 hours at a dealer in Wisconsin and then had them add what I needed (subframe and plumbing for a BH92 that I already owned, 3rd function valve, and a second rear remote w/float) then shipped it to Colorado. The dealer in Wisconsin quoted about $550 less for installing all that stuff than my local dealer, so maybe they were happy with what they were making on the 5740, or maybe my dealer here was sore that I wasn't buying an L6060 from them.

 

[buckeyefarmer]

Why a mid pto on a tractor that size?

 

[moship]

This is fantastic info, could save me and others a ton of money and grief, thanks so much!

Your welcome!

 

[kthompson]

What about the cab makes it harder getting off and on? The doors? If the deal is that good remove them. I just got a L6060 and had Kubota's third function added for grapple and two rear remotes, one with float which cost a little more. Have not use the rear remotes a lot (only have 22 hours on it) but have used a rear offset flail mower on it for say three of those hours and have no noticed any issue with the rear remotes not holding. Have seen this warning else where so am watching for it.

I have Kubota and Jd with rear remotes and they are direct operated by cable from lever. These are if not mistaken electric control and would have to be as short as the levers are with maybe three inches of lever for I have to use fingers only to operate them. Have no feeling in their operation either.

As to price on this machine brand new the Kubota third function and each of the rear remotes were "about" $1,000 each installed. One rear remote is standard and one float.