Corona Virus #6

[rswyan]

THIS is a prime example of a news article creating hysteria IMO.

The reality is, NO WHERE in the article posted does it state what this woman died of, only that she tested for the virus and died before getting the results.

Is there a chance she could of gotten it? Yes. Is there a chance that she could of NOT had it? Yes. Is there a chance that this woman had another condition that increased the odds that she was at a higher risk for whatever reason that "accelerated" her death? Yes. The reality is though that none of this was addressed in the article.

Do I belive this virus is a issue? Heck yes.

While all the points you make (in your original post, quoted above) are accurate, the only hysteria I'm seeing is your reaction to the article being posted ...

If they had more data to report as to the exact cause of her death I presume they would have done so.

In the meantime, probably not a bad idea to inform folks of what they do know for certain ... so they can judge for themselves and adjust their behavior accordingly ... or not ...

 

[Sigarms]

While all the points you make (in your original post, quoted above) are accurate, the only hysteria I'm seeing is your reaction to the article being posted ...

If they had more data to report as to the exact cause of her death I presume they would have done so.

In the meantime, probably not a bad idea to inform folks of what they do know for certain ... so they can judge for themselves and adjust their behavior accordingly ... or not ...

Writing was never my forte, I was using the phrase "The reality..." way too much LOL

I see the article you posted no different than when I read a gun death article or a dog attack article. The story is generally put out there for shock value with very little facts, and in some cases, mis representing the facts that are given. No hysteria on my end, just addressing the lack of facts presented by the article which seems that no one ever questions until the government decides it's going to pass laws addressing the "situation".

 

[rswyan]

Writing was never my forte, I was using the phrase "The reality..." way too much LOL

I see the article you posted no different than when I read a gun death article or a dog attack article. The story is generally put out there for shock value with very little facts, and in some cases, mis representing the facts that are given. No hysteria on my end, just addressing the lack of facts presented by the article which seems that no one questions.

The media generally, by it's very nature, is sensationalistic ... folks just have to factor that in, in their evaluation of what they read.

Barring some further distraction - like some huge event that sucks up their attention - I would expect that there will be some follow-up reporting on the case.

Indeed, the story has already been updated (at least) once that I can see.

 

[daugen]

took my shower this morning, shaved and realized I really needed a haircut.
Well that isn't going to happen anytime soon, don't think a barbershop is a particularly safe place to be right now.
Better go find my little clippers. Ear lobes, hide!

Worried about my sister in California, just North of SF, luckily fairly remote in Muir Beach.
She was amazed that the beach yesterday had all kinds of people on it
and the parking lot was almost full. ?? While their hospitals are running out of face masks...

 

[Sigarms]

Indeed, the story has already been updated (at least) once that I can see.

What new information and what was updated?

Some interesting things to note per the story

1 - No once was an actual temperature given.
2 - She drank "medicinal wiskey" to help the symtons (another news story).
3 - She was feeling better enough to take a walk for her boyfriend and dog Thursday.
4 - Her boyfriend came home at night at night finding her after not responding to his texts.
5 - She was found on the kitchen floor dead (enough strength to be walking in the home but not enough strength to text or call for help?).

As noted, there is a chance that this virus did indeed claim her life. At this point, given the information, the fact is we don't know exactly what killed this woman.

Point being, if someone is running a high fever, but feeling better in two days, goes out for a walk and get's hit and killed by a car hitting them, do we assume the virus killed them? Of course not.

Think about this...People are so smart that because of this virus, people are hoarding toilet paper. Tells you enough about the general population IMO to consider the fact that our medical system can be overwhelmed VERY quickly due to stupidity. I'm not saying the woman who died was stupid, only pointing out that until we know what she died of, putting this story out really dosen't help anyone.

 

[DarkBlack]

Writing was never my forte, I was using the phrase "The reality..." way too much LOL

I see the article you posted no different than when I read a gun death article or a dog attack article. The story is generally put out there for shock value with very little facts, and in some cases, mis representing the facts that are given. No hysteria on my end, just addressing the lack of facts presented by the article which seems that no one ever questions until the government decides it's going to pass laws addressing the "situation".

I dismissed this article as another slanted writing as soon as I found myself re-reading to be sure I read it right, that, she has a partner ( stated twice ) , yet he has a girlfriend......

 

[rswyan]

What new information and what was updated?

No idea ... since I did not read the two versions ... I only noted that the article itself notes that it has been updated at a specific time after the original publication.

 

[pennwalk]

i wanted to get out yesterday and stretch my legs so I went for a walk around the block. It was a nice afternoon so a lot of (10-15) other people had the same idea. Most people were keeping a good distance except one neighbor who wanted to come over and talk. I felt kind of bad waving her off. I was wondering if you could get it walking through another persons breath plume? I have read that you may be most contagious a few days before you show symptoms. So if you are not coughing and sneezing how do you spread it? I was wondering why some places have banned going out at all?

Chris

 

[rswyan]

took my shower this morning, shaved and realized I really needed a haircut.
Well that isn't going to happen anytime soon, don't think a barbershop is a particularly safe place to be right now.
Better go find my little clippers. Ear lobes, hide!

Worried about my sister in California, just North of SF, luckily fairly remote in Muir Beach.
She was amazed that the beach yesterday had all kinds of people on it
and the parking lot was almost full. ?? While their hospitals are running out of face masks...

Be thankful she's not in Florida ... where some seem intent to be manufacturing the next batch of "super spreaders" for our collective benefit ...

 

[pennwalk]

took my shower this morning, shaved and realized I really needed a haircut.
I'm wondering if this lasts months if I will have to resort to an amish haircut where my wife puts a bowl over my head and snips off everything that hangs out.not the ears

Chris

 

[pennwalk]

I have read some people suggesting that we just let the virus take its course but I wonder about the morality of letting people die who we could save.

Chris

 

[rswyan]

I dismissed this article as another slanted writing as soon as I found myself re-reading to be sure I read it right, that, she has a partner ( stated twice ) , yet he has a girlfriend......

Well: RIF ... and I wouldn't discount the possibility that the third time could be a charm ...

 

[Sigarms]

Be thankful she's not in Florida ... where some seem intent to be manufacturing the next batch of "super spreaders" for our collective benefit ...

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We go back to common sense being used. We can look at the vendor offering the service (Jet Boat rides) but we forget that ALL of those people on the boat have gotten on the boat per their own free will.

Why weren't the beaches closed for spring break in Florida? Simple answer, money. Personally, I could never afford to go away anywhere on spring break while I was in college (in Pennsylvania) and neither could my good friends at the time. Think about this... Where do kids get money to go on spring break? Simple answer would be parents. Why are the parents at allowing kids to use their money to go on spring break?

 

[TnAndy]

took my shower this morning, shaved and realized I really needed a haircut.
I'm wondering if this lasts months if I will have to resort to an amish haircut where my wife puts a bowl over my head and snips off everything that hangs out.not the ears

Chris

Wife has been cutting my hair for 20 years since my barber died. Of course, every year, the job requires less and less time for some reason.

 

[DarkBlack]

I have read some people suggesting that we just let the virus take its course but I wonder about the morality of letting people die who we could save.

Chris

It is not our choice. It WILL run its course.

Common cold 200 different viruses. No cure.
Herpes 1, herpes 2 , cold sores- viruses, no cures.

 

[ruffdog]

thank you Dr. ruffdog...

No, not me. I hear it from my wife all the time and she retired after 38 years from the county nursing home. Drug interactions are a concern that nursing staff was always watching.

 

[the old grind]

The media generally, by it's very nature, is sensationalistic ... folks just have to factor that in, in their evaluation of what they read.

After a while they just assume they're hearing the important bits not the "hey listen to this" come-on.

...Worried about my sister in California, just North of SF, luckily fairly remote in Muir Beach. She was amazed that the beach yesterday had all kinds of people on it and the parking lot was almost full. ?? While their hospitals are running out of face masks...

Diseases are for 'other people', like these ones:

Common cold 200 different viruses. No cure.
Herpes 1, herpes 2 , cold sores- viruses, no cures.

And yet sedentary Americans with poor dietary and exercise habits feel a right to live longer than those in other countries. I smoked cigs for 50 yrs. I'm factoring in the evaluation of my 69 yrs of self-maintenance. btw what a great time to be having children.

 

[MGH PA]

Went to Lowes first thing this morning. Didn't want to, but needed to pickup my online tile order (shipping would have been $90) to finish my backsplash. I wore gloves and the whole time I was in there, I was more on edge than ever and we don't even have any confirmed cases in our county yet. It's going to be a long while for me to adjust to this new normal.

 

[k0ua]

Dr. Gavin Macgregor-Skinner says you can re-use N95 masks by carefully taking it off and treating 1 hour with UV light.

 

[3930dave]

We go back to common sense being used. We can look at the vendor offering the service (Jet Boat rides) but we forget that ALL of those people on the boat have gotten on the boat per their own free will.

Why weren't the beaches closed for spring break in Florida? Simple answer, money. Personally, I could never afford to go away anywhere on spring break while I was in college (in Pennsylvania) and neither could my good friends at the time. Think about this... Where do kids get money to go on spring break? Simple answer would be parents. Why are the parents at allowing kids to use their money to go on spring break?

Sr. WHO official (Irish Doc, can't remember the name....) was being interviewed circa last week...... Well spoken, as you'd expect..... his phrase that stuck with me was "Speed (of response) trumps Perfection". Personal knowledge, hard-earned fighting Ebola.

Speed of action..... matters in many things. Singapore and Taiwan IIRC started their testing and measures in early January; last I saw, those early interventions served them well.

Spring Breakers still getting drunk and stoned on the beaches..... I don't expect much from them (if they think about it at all, it's probably not much more than "It's only old people dying..... Party On" but I wish some seriously bad karma on the people who Do have the Power to shut this down, but Chose not to.

Get informed, and take responsibility for your own life and actions........ "regular" life would be better if that happened more widely in society and as some examples have shown in these threads, that discipline is in short supply with some people during this extended crisis.

Waiting till you see health-care workers wearing bandanas is too late.....

Rgds, D.