Parking Brake Light?

/ Parking Brake Light? #21  
I have a 2012 2800h. Dealer called Branson and confirmed that the parking brake indicator on the panel does not light up. Rear lights operate with both parking and brake pedal actuation. Was told the same dashboard is used on multiple models and not all indicators were used on some models.
 
/ Parking Brake Light? #22  
On my 25 series, the brake lights come on with either foot brakes, or parking brakes. Whether the hydro is in gear, or neutral, if you set the parking brake, the "P" lights up on the dash, and the rear brake lights come on and stay on if the tractor is running.
 
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#23  
I have a 2012 2800h. Dealer called Branson and confirmed that the parking brake indicator on the panel does not light up. Rear lights operate with both parking and brake pedal actuation. Was told the same dashboard is used on multiple models and not all indicators were used on some models.

Do you know if yours has a switch on the hand brake that has no wire going to it? Mine has the switch as you can see in the picture above and the tab where the wire should be attached looks much cleaner than the rest of the switch, which is an indication that there must have been a wire on mine recently. I suppose it could of had a plastic cap that fell off? Not sure why Branson would install a switch if they had no intention of hooking it up?
 
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/ Parking Brake Light? #24  
I've been thinking about this for some time. Since Branson seems to share instrument cluster through various models/series, it might be as simple as run the wire to the plug for the instrument cluster.

Here is a pin out diagram and a electric diagram for the cluster of the 15 series.

dash diagram.jpgdash plug pinout.jpg
 
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I've been thinking about this for some time. Since Branson seems to share instrument cluster through various models/series, it might be as simple as run the wire to the plug for the instrument cluster.

Here is a pin out diagram and a electric diagram for the cluster of the 15 series.

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That looks interesting ptsg! I like the idea of the beeper too! Thanks!!!
 
/ Parking Brake Light? #26  
Do you know if yours has a switch on the hand brake that has no wire going to it? Mine has the switch as you can see in the picture above and the tab where the wire should be attached looks much cleaner than the rest of the switch, which is an indication that there must have been a wire on mine recently. I suppose it could of had a plastic cap that fell off? Not sure why Branson would install a switch if they had no intention of hocking it up?

I'll check and report back.
 
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I've been thinking about this for some time. Since Branson seems to share instrument cluster through various models/series, it might be as simple as run the wire to the plug for the instrument cluster.

Here is a pin out diagram and a electric diagram for the cluster of the 15 series.

View attachment 645334View attachment 645335

So I got into it today and confirmed that I have YG wire (positive) going to A11 and RW wire (negative) going to A12 on the wiring harness for the instrument cluster.

I removed the hand brake switch and cleaned it up to confirm good ground with the multi meter when the park brake was applied. I then made up a wire and attached it to the switch and ran it along the outside of the wiring harness towards the fuse box with lots extra. I'm heading back outside (cold windy day) to see if I can locate the RW A12 wire and see if I can tap into it. I don't have a diagram showing where this wire runs so its going to be a bit of detective work with a lot of good luck if I happen to find it. I don't really want to tap into it at the instrument cluster plug if it can be avoided.
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/ Parking Brake Light? #29  
I am bit confused now. From the diagram, it looks like the parking brake light already have the positive and all it takes is a wire from A12 to the switch for the ground. But on the pin-out diagram, there is a pin for the parking brake light positive.

At first, I thought all it needed, was a wire from A12 to the switch to ground the circuit.
 
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I am bit confused now. From the diagram, it looks like the parking brake light already have the positive and all it takes is a wire from A12 to the switch for the ground. But on the pin-out diagram, there is a pin for the parking brake light positive.

At first, I thought all it needed, was a wire from A12 to the switch to ground the circuit.

I think we're on the same page ptsg. The A11 & A12 pins already have wires attached I'm assuming (perhaps wrongly) that YG (A11) pin will have power when the ignition is cycled on and if I can provide ground via the parking brake switch to RW (A12) we should get a park light light on the dash. Perhaps I'll put a voltage meter on the A11 pin and cycle the ignition on to see if I'm getting power. If there is power then getting ground to A12 via the switch will happen one way or another...
 
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The unused switch is there on my 2800h.

Thanks for the follow-up! Stay tuned and hopefully I'll be able to report back that I got my dashboard light working. If I can't get the dash light working I'll wire in an aftermarket light or beeper or both.
 
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I am bit confused now. From the diagram, it looks like the parking brake light already have the positive and all it takes is a wire from A12 to the switch for the ground. But on the pin-out diagram, there is a pin for the parking brake light positive.

At first, I thought all it needed, was a wire from A12 to the switch to ground the circuit.

Well, my apologies to you pstg. I think I now understand your confusion and its entirely my fault. I was looking at my wiring plugin up side down from the diagram you provided. The YG (A1) and RW (A2) wires are for the right turn and high beam respectively. The A11 & A12 don't have any wires running to them which makes more sense considering many tractors didn't come with the brake light option.

Anyway, I found a switched hot in the fuse box and ran a wire up to the dash along with the switched parking brake negative wire and did "make shift" connections into the dash plug...results below...
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/ Parking Brake Light? #34  
Would you look at that? Nice!! And it was very simple as well. Great stuff gdrew!

You're kinda encouraging me to go on the hunt and put the 4x4 light working, if my dash does have that light. Which would need a switch to be installed the lever, no big deal though.
 
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For me, the inspiration to continue to try to solve problems comes from people like you ptsg. I would have given up if you hadn't provided those schematics, thanks again!

Yes, the 4x4 light would be another good one to tackle...hummm.
 
/ Parking Brake Light? #36  
Your both doing good work
 
/ Parking Brake Light? #38  
Took the covers around the dash off, figured out the right pin on the plug, confirmed with the multi-meter that it needed indeed a Positive wire, rigged a wire from the pin to a 12V source and Bam! Smoke all over the place. :D Joking, got the green 4WD light working!

Now, on this quarantine times we'll have ahead, I'll find a sealed switch, build a bracket for it and do a proper wiring job. I do need to find a 12V source that works with the ignition. The fuse-box does have some spare spots but I don't have the right terminal to put it there.

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/ Parking Brake Light? #39  
That magic smoke is always fun to make appear!! :shocked:

Nice work guys!
 
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Seeing green, now I'm jealous!!! I'm going to look into seeing if I can get the 4WD indicator working too. Let us know ptsg if and where you find the right terminal for the fuse-box, and I would also like to know what "they" use to connect the wires into the back of the instrument cluster. I jerry-rigged mine so expecting a smoke show at anytime, looking for a good place to mount a fire extinguisher lol!
 

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