To all mt235e owners

[chas0218]

So I was looking over the tractor and noticed that the one hard plumbed line just above the filter was pressing on it. Is anyone else having the same problem? I mean it isn't a problem yet but I have to believe the 2 are rubbing and vibrating against each other meaning a hole might develop most likely in the filter first.

 

[chas0218]

This might be an issue on later model 3135's as well but I can't be sure.

I talked to the dealer and he said they put a jack and 2x4 under the line to get enough clearance to get the filter off. I feel this can't be good but I'll just keep an eye on it for now.

 

[jaydee325]

I talked to the dealer and he said they put a jack and 2x4 under the line to get enough clearance to get the filter off. I feel this can't be good but I'll just keep an eye on it for now.

This is unacceptable. Dealer sounds like a hack.

I'd call LS corporate. There should be some kind of remedy engineered by LS and then at least a service bulletin for correction.

 

[Jay Stringer]

I have had my MT235 almost 2 weeks. Got a thumb (after market) for the backhoe but it did not come close to fitting. I'll check out the hose location tomorrow. Does anyone know of an after market thumb for the LB1100 backhoe?

 

[LS Tractor Owner]

I have had my MT235 almost 2 weeks. Got a thumb (after market) for the backhoe but it did not come close to fitting. I'll check out the hose location tomorrow. Does anyone know of an after market thumb for the LB1100 backhoe?

There is an LS factory thumb that is available now. It is around $300. Well worth it, bolts onto the factory mounting spots.

 

[chas0218]

This is unacceptable. Dealer sounds like a hack.

I'd call LS corporate. There should be some kind of remedy engineered by LS and then at least a service bulletin for correction.

I have to agree, I will give them a call and see what they have in mind for fixing it. Really it would only need a slight bend upward to fix the problem. Doesn't look like they have a phone number to be reached at on their website so I sent them an e-mail/message. We will see how long it takes to get a response.

 

[chas0218]

Just an update, I got a hold of someone at LS. They weren't aware of the issue and suggested I take it back to the dealer to have the dealer reposition the line. Being the hard plumbed line with the banjo fittings there won't be any repositioning the line. They can't seem to find my S/N in their system, I might have given them the wrong one I'm not sure which number they were looking for. Anyway I'm happy to say they are at least responding promptly to my emails and will reaching out to the regional manager to see if they have found the issue with other tractors. By what my dealer had mentioned it sounds like the 25hp, 30hp, and 35hp MT2 models all have the same issue.

 

[chas0218]

Here are some pictures of the line. It is hard to tell but it might actually be denting the filter.

 

[LS Tractor Owner]

Is that the HST or hydraulic filter? I have the gear version, the lines are no where near my filter can.

 

[5030]

That tractor is disgusting, wash it..........

 

[chas0218]

That tractor is disgusting, wash it..........

Haha Yeah I know but the cold came in and now if I gave her a wash down it would be an ice sculpture.

Is that the HST or hydraulic filter? I have the gear version, the lines are no where near my filter can.

This is the gear tractor so I'm not sure what is going on. You also have the XG series with different frame than the MT2 series. They added support to the frame and changed it slightly on the MT2 series.

 

[LS Tractor Owner]

Haha Yeah I know but the cold came in and now if I gave her a wash down it would be an ice sculpture.



This is the gear tractor so I'm not sure what is going on. You also have the XG series with different frame than the MT2 series. They added support to the frame and changed it slightly on the MT2 series.

Mine is a very late production XG, my dealer told me is is identical to the MT2, with the exception of something electronic on the fuel injection. I have looked at the frames on both models and they are the same (at least the later / last production XGs are). The MT235 definitely has different plumbing. It probably is the same on the 35+ models.

 

[LS Tractor Owner]

Either way, those lines sure do interfere with the filter. It has to be tough to get the filter off....
Maybe they will come up with better lines that route up higher and around the filter.

 

[chas0218]

Either way, those lines sure do interfere with the filter. It has to be tough to get the filter off....
Maybe they will come up with better lines that route up higher and around the filter.

Yeah it actually presses down on that filter pretty good, enough to where it is moving the cast filter flange. I too wonder if it is only the 35hp. I know the 40hp uses the same engine just turbo version so I would think it is all the same but I don't want to make assumptions. Either way we will see what they have to say.

 

[chas0218]

Mine is a very late production XG, my dealer told me is is identical to the MT2, with the exception of something electronic on the fuel injection. I have looked at the frames on both models and they are the same (at least the later / last production XGs are). The MT235 definitely has different plumbing. It probably is the same on the 35+ models.

Would you mind posting a picture of what your lines look like so I have something to compare to?

 

[LS Tractor Owner]

Here are some pics of the filter and lines. Filter is on the left side, just behind the step, facing forward.

 

[chas0218]

Here are some pics of the filter and lines. Filter is on the left side, just behind the step, facing forward.

Wow I guess they are a lot more different than I thought. Mine is on the right facing forward just in front inside of the rear tire.

 

[the old grind]

Here are some pictures of the line. It is hard to tell but it might actually be denting the filter...

Sure looks like the tubes coming off the banjos up front could both be rotated 'down' enough to pull the lines down against the can.

This could be so easy for snagged brush to make happen, and those banjo fittings could also move w/o loosening the bolts or leaking, so not noticed right away by operator.

Notch the end of a foot long 1x3 and grab a 3lb or larger hammer. Starting with the inner pipe, knock them in and up to gain the clearance you desire. I'd think more in on the inner, and more up on the outer placing the notch behind the bends to not slip. Keeping blows away from the ends will let the distortion spread out. Avoid centering too coplanar with the bends to minimize risk of kinks or bumping it further to the rear than the end of the can.

In the Muffler shop and the GM car assembly chassis lines where I worked few might guess how many fits, from hood latches to doors to deck lids (trunks), were thanks to a BFRH or a millwright's pinch bar in the pre-robotic 'early '80s. Today I'd bet a cup of coffee I could finish and warranty this job in < 1/2 hr.

 

[chas0218]

Sure looks like the tubes coming off the banjos up front could both be rotated 'down' enough to pull the lines down against the can.

This could be so easy for snagged brush to make happen, and those banjo fittings could also move w/o loosening the bolts or leaking, so not noticed right away by operator.

Notch the end of a foot long 1x3 and grab a 3lb or larger hammer. Starting with the inner pipe, knock them in and up to gain the clearance you desire. I'd think more in on the inner, and more up on the outer placing the notch behind the bends to not slip. Keeping blows away from the ends will let the distortion spread out. Avoid centering too coplanar with the bends to minimize risk of kinks or bumping it further to the rear than the end of the can.

In the Muffler shop and the GM car assembly chassis lines where I worked few might guess how many fits, from hood latches to doors to deck lids (trunks), were thanks to a BFRH or a millwright's pinch bar in the pre-robotic 'early '80s. Today I'd bet a cup of coffee I could finish and warranty this job in < 1/2 hr.

Lets just say that I might or might not have tried to rotate the line already to get under it by loosening the banjo fittings and applying force while tightening back down. I'm not going to mess with bending the line yet. We will see if they come up with for a fix.

 

[the old grind]

You're obviously a good mechanic, not pushing 'till something broke. (yes could happen easily, you'd have to be there)
It's brave of you to even ponder this 4-hand job with only two. :drink:

that you could use onsite help more than online help. jon