TESLA Electric Truck?

[ultrarunner]

Well it looks like a done deal...

California will require Electric Trucks and said the current 600k cost compared to a 125k diesel rig will come down as production ramps up...

Mandates/Requirements are the only way for California to meet Gov Browns law for California to be Carbon NEGATIVE by 2045.

California already has 600,000 electric vehicles and needs to have 5 million in 10 years by 2030.

To do this the State has advertised on Spanish Language media offering Grants of $9,500 for a family of 4 making just under 60k to buy electrics... with grants already taken...

In addition, Low Income drivers can get $2000 to install home charging stations... plus additional rebate from Bankrupt PGE and EV rates...

Retiring a gas vehicle can net another $1000... one of the reports showcases getting a 96 Camry off the streets and another a 2003 Mercedes...

Ford C-Max is one popular vehicle in the program.

Back to trucks... as the highways and bridges crossing the SF Bay are made open to bicycles and pedestrians complaints of Diesel emissions increased... joggers say it is no fun going across the bridge inhaling Diesel particulates...

The Golden Gate has had pedestrian access forever without complaints... could be the location with always a breeze mitigates exhaust... plus... not a lot of big rigs use the Golden Gate Bridge.

The times are a changing and the belief is California will once again set the standard for the Nation...

 

[cqaigy2]

It like the farmer that was not allowed to sell raw milk to the Montessori school... being a simple man he suggested the school buy the cow and he would charge for caring and milking the school milk cow... he was no longer selling milk!

Yummy raw milk taste pretty good. Used to have goats too and that was pretty tasty as well, unless they got into the willows, then, not so much, but the pigs didn't care.

Oh ya, TESLA Truck thread, i'd be tempted if i need such a rig.

 

[Industrial Toys]

A fairly close neighbor, Michael Schmidt has been through the ringer, trying to fight for his right to sell raw milk. Formed a cooperative where several people could buy the cow but the Government wasn't going for that. Not sure if it's protection for the Milk Marketing board or legitimate health concerns.

 

[ultrarunner]

Mom's side for generations family diary farm and raw milk was one thing they had in abundance... and it was always raw.

Being a city kid it never set well with me... so Grandma boiled it and made hot coco special for me... still had to skim off the surface... I would get sick each visit and then be fine... but when it was boiled or cooked on the stove no problem.

As long as the powers that be push for Carbon Negative which goes farther than Carbon Neutral... expect to see lots of subsidies and tax breaks poured into EV...

I can see a day where someone driving a ICE vehicle could very well be the oddity in a place like the SF Bay Area... I think London already highly restricts certain ICE vehicles... kind of like single occupant carpool lane use here... it is the perks that push it...

 

[ruffdog]

California stops all rebates for over $60k luxury EV's. (and trucks?)

California reduces electric-car rebates, eliminates break for luxury models - MarketWatch

 

[ultrarunner]

California stops all rebates for over $60k luxury EV's. (and trucks?)

California reduces electric-car rebates, eliminates break for luxury models - MarketWatch

Yes... it was bad press as a hand out to the rich... now California provides EV grants to low income drivers to fund purchases of EV...

You can't drive a block in some communities without seeing a EV...

I know there are only 600,000 statewide but half of them must be in the SF Bay Area!

 

[two_bit_score]

Well it looks like a done deal...


The times are a changing and the belief is California will once again set the standard for the Nation...

We sure hope not. California can't afford their lifestyle any longer and neither can the Nation.

 

[ultrarunner]

History shows otherwise... what starts in California seldom stays here.

There was a time when Oregon and Washington were very different politically but the 3 west coast states are very much in step...

 

[California]

Mom's side for generations family diary farm and raw milk was one thing they had in abundance... and it was always raw.

Being a city kid it never set well with me... so Grandma boiled it and made hot coco special for me... still had to skim off the surface... I would get sick each visit and then be fine... but when it was boiled or cooked on the stove no problem.

Grandma's raw milk sounds like Dad's apple juice. He built an apple press and was so proud to deliver apple juice to family and friends along with the pickup load of apples he always arrived with during harvest season. The juice was tasty.

But ... the apple juiice was unpasteurized and had an overwhelming medicinal effect that lasted a couple of days. Nobody wanted a second batch.

When I took over the orchard in Y2K and started digging through endless hoarded things in the barns I never found his press. He must have given it away.

 

[Fuddy1952]

Maybe California ought to become their own country, Spanish as their language. They're very much "different" from the rest of the country, especially SF, LA.
Rewarding low income people sounds like socialism to me.

 

[Big Barn]

History shows otherwise... what starts in California seldom stays here.

There was a time when Oregon and Washington were very different politically but the 3 west coast states are very much in step...

Right up the coast into BC

 

[ultrarunner]

Maybe California ought to become their own country, Spanish as their language. They're very much "different" from the rest of the country, especially SF, LA.
Rewarding low income people sounds like socialism to me.

Very much so and politicians will proudly say Capitalism is evil...

Many plans have come up for decades to split up California... some make sense and most have at least a 3 way split and some more.

 

[ultrarunner]

Right up the coast into BC

I was really surprised at how similar Olympia WA is to Berkeley California and how similar SF is to Portland and Seattle...

Not really sure why but I never expected to see looters and protestors pelting our troops returning home though the port of Olympia to be greeted with rocks, bottles and such... I thought I was in Berkeley.

Have not seen many Electrics around Olympia and never a Tesla... mostly my sightings limited to hybrid SUV

 

[ruffdog]

Maybe California ought to become their own country, Spanish as their language. They're very much "different" from the rest of the country, especially SF, LA.
Rewarding low income people sounds like socialism to me.

Helping low income people with programs is socialism. Then comes the stage of only helping the rich with tax breaks and corporate welfare. The next stage is the loss of our democracy and communism.

 

[two_bit_score]

Helping low income people with programs is socialism. Then comes the stage of only helping the rich with tax breaks and corporate welfare. The next stage is the loss of our democracy and communism.

And the subsidies to TESLA invite socialism to accelerate. TESLA should have to make it on their own.

 

[California]

And the subsidies to TESLA invite socialism to accelerate. TESLA should have to make it on their own.

Ocasio-Cortez just said the same thing! She was in the news recently opposing New York tax relief and subsidies for Amazon to entice them to move to NYC.

New York balked.

Amazon will now move to Manhattan anyway.

Her tweet today, with a cute photo:
"Won't you look at that: Amazon is coming to NYC anyway - *without* requiring the public to finance shady deals, helipad handouts for Jeff Bezos, & corporate giveaways. Maybe the ... admin should focus more on cutting public assistance to billionaires instead of poor families"


You're in good company.

 

[ruffdog]

Early version of the Tesla truck was a old Ford with cardboard duct taped to it? OR....is this the one they are going to use in the towing contest?

Cybertruck Prototype Spotted Outside Tesla Store

 

[aczlan]

Ocasio-Cortez just said the same thing! She was in the news recently opposing New York tax relief and subsidies for Amazon to entice them to move to NYC.

New York balked.

Amazon will now move to Manhattan anyway.

Her tweet today, with a cute photo:
"Won't you look at that: Amazon is coming to NYC anyway - *without* requiring the public to finance shady deals, helipad handouts for Jeff Bezos, & corporate giveaways. Maybe the ... admin should focus more on cutting public assistance to billionaires instead of poor families"


You're in good company.

And Amazon is still getting a tax break, just not as big of a tax break, but they are not bringing 25,000 permanent jobs, 11,000 Union construction jobs and $24 Billion in projected tax revenue like was planned before (note that in order to receive the much-maligned $3 Billion in "subsidies" Amazon would have had to bring 25,000 jobs (most of them middle class or better) and do enough business to owe $24 Billion in tax revenue).
All that in Queens which REALLY needed that kind of money invested in it.

Aaron Z

 

[Industrial Toys]

Kind of funny

Tesla truck’s ‘unbreakable’ windows shatter during demonstration - YouTube

 

[Grumpycat]

......then you point people to the Tesla site.:laughing: Grumpycat, are you Elon Musk?

Tesla's investor's site's feet are held to the fire for honesty by the SEC.

But if you already know everything without even having to look then there is no point.

Is no different than oil-haters claiming trillions of dollars of subsidies to oil companies. One researcher stretches the truth by claiming tax deductions for capital expenditures are subsidies then it becomes dogma repeated mouth to mouth and enhanced at every step. Same thing with the article ruffdog cited. He accepts it as fact but it contains no data just one writer's opinion about another article which was 2 years old at the time.