Posthole Digger TSC CountyLine Post Hole Digger Success

   / TSC CountyLine Post Hole Digger Success #1  

KennK

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The wife and I a building horse stalls in a new barn which required digging post holes. Our northern Wisconsin soil is littered with small to fairly large granite "field stones", some the size of a large softball or bigger. Because of this I'll have to admit that I was dreading using the post hole digger - fearing we'd pop shear pins like crazy. I'm happy to report that we were very successful!!

We'd purchased the CountyLine post hole digger with a nine inch auger from Tractor Supply, but hadn't assembled or used it. It went together fairly easily.

We had to dig 11 holes for four stalls (eight doorway posts and three stall corners). The barn floor was built up from the soil with a layer of sharp limestone rocks maybe 3-4 inches across, and then a layer of 3/8" gravel and fines on top of that. I dug the first three holes by hand, and found the hardest part was getting through the limestone rocks, which had been compacted by a large excavator. By the time I was done with the third hole my sore hands told me that it was time to try the post hole digger.

To start, we lowered the auger (at the lowest RPM possible) in the holes I'd already dug to widen them. The first and second hole went fine, but in the third hole ... POP! There went the shear bolt. I pulled out my box of shear bolts under the assumption that we'd go through a lot of them.

After putting on the new shear bolt (Grade 5 5/16" x 3" bolt, per the PHD instructions) we set about drilling the remaining eight holes.

I'm happy to report that the PHD barely blinked at the compacted limestone rock layer. Per the recommendations I'd read here, I was careful to avoid screwing the auger in too deep. I would repeatedly drill in maybe 4-6 inches, and then raise it to loosen the soil. Every once in a while I'd raise the auger 6-12 inches, increase the RPM's a bit, and raise the auger out of the hole to remove debris.

I found that the large granite rocks would cause the PHD to vibrate and chatter. When that happened I would lightly lower the auger and let it spin for a while to see if it would dislodge the rock. If it kept chattering I'd stop the PTO, raise the auger to full height, pull forward a bit, and use a tamping bar to find the rock, pry it loose, and remove it with a hand PHD. I'd use the hand PHD to clear out the debris, and go back to the tractor to continue drilling.

We were somewhat shocked that this process allowed us to finish the eight holes fairly quickly without having to replace another shear bolt.

Use the lowest RPM.
Use the repeated down/up - down/up - down/up approach so you don't simply drill the PHD into the ground.
Watch for the chatter/vibration of rocks.

Ken
 
   / TSC CountyLine Post Hole Digger Success #2  
Nice! Glad it worked so well for you.

I am getting ready to build a pole barn and need to drill 22 18" diameter holes 48" deep. I think this is beyond my 3 point post hole digger, plus buying an 18" auger is pretty expensive so I am planning to rent a skidsteer with a hydraulic auger that has forward and reverse.
 
   / TSC CountyLine Post Hole Digger Success #3  
Congratulations!!! I like my County Line digger too. It's gotten stuck in my red clay a few times because I went too deep before raising it and slinging the clay off.
 
   / TSC CountyLine Post Hole Digger Success #4  
I had two different brands of augers before buying the Country Line brand from Tractor Supply. Looking at it compared to the others wasn't really obvious that it's different, but when using it, I was amazed at how well it dug in my hard baked red dirt. It actually dug too fast and I had to learn how to use it after years of struggling to get he auger to do anything, now I have to worry about it getting stuck in the ground and unable to come out.
 
   / TSC CountyLine Post Hole Digger Success #5  
grade5 not grade2? shear bolt
its often said for any pto driven impliments use grade2. its a lot cheaper to replace the bolt than fix a broken tractor.
I dont see anywhere on TSC where they sell grade 5 shear bolts
 
   / TSC CountyLine Post Hole Digger Success
  • Thread Starter
#6  
Yup. Grade 5. Just to be sure I just went out and double-checked the manual.

I bought mine from Amazon https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00A30Q9T8/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I bought bolts, extra lock washers, and extra nuts. When I sheared the bolt I found the bolt pieces and lock washer but never found the nut. I assume it ended up in the bottom of the hole.

I also bought some of the 1/8" hex screws the PHD uses to hold onto the drive shaft when/if the bolt shears. It seems pretty easy to drop in the dirt and get lost.
 
   / TSC CountyLine Post Hole Digger Success #7  
The wife and I a building horse stalls in a new barn which required digging post holes. Our northern Wisconsin soil is littered with small to fairly large granite "field stones", some the size of a large softball or bigger. Because of this I'll have to admit that I was dreading using the post hole digger - fearing we'd pop shear pins like crazy. I'm happy to report that we were very successful!!

We'd purchased the CountyLine post hole digger with a nine inch auger from Tractor Supply, but hadn't assembled or used it. It went together fairly easily.

We had to dig 11 holes for four stalls (eight doorway posts and three stall corners). The barn floor was built up from the soil with a layer of sharp limestone rocks maybe 3-4 inches across, and then a layer of 3/8" gravel and fines on top of that. I dug the first three holes by hand, and found the hardest part was getting through the limestone rocks, which had been compacted by a large excavator. By the time I was done with the third hole my sore hands told me that it was time to try the post hole digger.

To start, we lowered the auger (at the lowest RPM possible) in the holes I'd already dug to widen them. The first and second hole went fine, but in the third hole ... POP! There went the shear bolt. I pulled out my box of shear bolts under the assumption that we'd go through a lot of them.

After putting on the new shear bolt (Grade 5 5/16" x 3" bolt, per the PHD instructions) we set about drilling the remaining eight holes.

I'm happy to report that the PHD barely blinked at the compacted limestone rock layer. Per the recommendations I'd read here, I was careful to avoid screwing the auger in too deep. I would repeatedly drill in maybe 4-6 inches, and then raise it to loosen the soil. Every once in a while I'd raise the auger 6-12 inches, increase the RPM's a bit, and raise the auger out of the hole to remove debris.

I found that the large granite rocks would cause the PHD to vibrate and chatter. When that happened I would lightly lower the auger and let it spin for a while to see if it would dislodge the rock. If it kept chattering I'd stop the PTO, raise the auger to full height, pull forward a bit, and use a tamping bar to find the rock, pry it loose, and remove it with a hand PHD. I'd use the hand PHD to clear out the debris, and go back to the tractor to continue drilling.

We were somewhat shocked that this process allowed us to finish the eight holes fairly quickly without having to replace another shear bolt.

Use the lowest RPM.
Use the repeated down/up - down/up - down/up approach so you don't simply drill the PHD into the ground.
Watch for the chatter/vibration of rocks.

Ken


I love mine-made one mistake though, I bought the smaller auger cause I was installing 4 inch posts. Ended up using a hand post hole digger to straiten or adjust holes as much as I used the PHD. I am going to buy the bigger auger maybe even go two sizes up next time. You have to be precise with the smaller auger which is impossible.
z
 
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I love mine-made one mistake though, I bought the smaller auger cause I was installing 4 inch posts. Ended up using a hand post hole digger to straiten or adjust holes as much as I used the PHD. I am going to buy the bigger auger maybe even go two sizes up next time. You have to be precise with the smaller auger which is impossible.
z
I am getting ready to put in a bunch of 4" posts and was going to get the TSC digger. What size auger did you get that was too small? I don't want to make the same mistake. Thanks
 
   / TSC CountyLine Post Hole Digger Success #9  
wouldnt go smaller than 9"
 
   / TSC CountyLine Post Hole Digger Success #10  
I got one two years ago - I've done probably at least 125 holes with a hand digger here - and git the nine" auger. Good machine and I had to learn quickly to keep it throttled down or it would suck in fast and be hard to get out. I've probably put in another 50 holes with this since between an outdoor riding arena and an area of wood board fence. It is a good tool and I would recommend it.
 
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#11  
I posted the first post in this thread. We were pretty careful about placement of the holes using the 9 inch auger, but while putting in the 4x6 and laminated 4.5x6 posts we found ourselves hand carving off the sides and/or fronts for proper placement. With that in mind, if I had it to do again, I think I'd get the 12 inch auger. I'm not sure if that would be more likely to shear bolts though.
 
   / TSC CountyLine Post Hole Digger Success #12  
Usually they recommend using an auger 3x the size of the post. That extra size is more important when laying out a building where you need to align posts, or when using the auger on an incline.
 
   / TSC CountyLine Post Hole Digger Success #13  
I have a 12 inch and 6 inch. The 6 inch was a mistake. It's just about impossible to dig into the ground with it and not bury it. In hind site, my reasoning for buying it was flawed and it will probably just sit for all eternity. the 12 inch is perfect for almost everything. But even with it's larger size, I still have to modify a few holes to get my fence line straight.
 
   / TSC CountyLine Post Hole Digger Success #14  
My wife is ordering several trees, and a big assortment of berries and grapes, to plant when we go to Tennessee in a few weeks. I plan to get a post hole digger, and am considering an 18" auger to dig hols for some of the plants. We will be sinking several 6x6 posts a little later. Is the 18" auger too big for those?
 
   / TSC CountyLine Post Hole Digger Success #15  
I've never met a plant that didn't fit nicely in a 12inch hole. I think a 18inch hole is going to be massive!!!!
 
   / TSC CountyLine Post Hole Digger Success #16  
My Sweetie is the grow person in the family.. I am the definition of "black thumb".........

I do run the power equipment for her, and she has planted many berry bushes native to the north bush here.. Her method is to prepare a $100 hole for a $10 bush. We use a 12" auger for this kind of job.. Drill a hole as deep as possible, fill 7/8 full of donkey yard, chicken barn, rabbit barn, or all 3, top with potting soil, use the dirt from the hole to mound around the hole to hold water.. Use 4 re-bar 5' long to stake down a 4' tall woven wire fence cage around the new bush to keep it moose and bear proof. Works reasonably well.. Moose will browse off the plants, bears will wallow down the cage just to fuss with it...
 
   / TSC CountyLine Post Hole Digger Success #17  
My wife is ordering several trees, and a big assortment of berries and grapes, to plant when we go to Tennessee in a few weeks. I plan to get a post hole digger, and am considering an 18" auger to dig hols for some of the plants. We will be sinking several 6x6 posts a little later. Is the 18" auger too big for those?

It would be best to check and get a digger that's rated for the maximum sized auger you intend to use.
 
   / TSC CountyLine Post Hole Digger Success #18  
My wife is ordering several trees, and a big assortment of berries and grapes, to plant when we go to Tennessee in a few weeks. I plan to get a post hole digger, and am considering an 18" auger to dig hols for some of the plants. We will be sinking several 6x6 posts a little later. Is the 18" auger too big for those?

I've never seen a 18" auger for sale for a compact tractor's 3 point phd. Even if I could find one I'd be worried the typical light-weight phd wouldn't last long using such a monster. I've seen 24 inch augers on contractor grade units but the are a lot beefier all the way around than what we use. My Country Line has all the pivot holes on the boom elongating after hundreds of holes and years of use. Makes it sloppy and wander more, but still works fine.

I have both a 9" and 12" auger. I find myself using the 12" for everything from railroad ties to 4x4's as you have to be less careful about drilling straight, the auger moving sideways as you drill, etc. Back filling a little bigger hole is easier than re-drilling. The bigger hole makes it easier to align posts. If it is rocky I bring in either clean dirt or concrete for backfill. Tree roots will drive you crazy too when drilling holes. They can be worse than rocks!

One time years ago my son drilled the auger all the way to gear box in some fairly soft wet ground without even breaking the soil. It was about like a screw going into wood. We had to dig it out by hand! Wasn't much fun.
 
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Digging holes today for posts to protect apple trees to be planted in a pasture
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