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   / Let's talk flail mowers #6,311  
As far as use, the Caroni has a rather small and noisy gearbox and if used for a couple of hours it will vent a fair bit of gear lube out of the gearbox.

My Caroni doesn't make much more noise than my Swiss watch once it's up to speed, and I have not seen any seepage from the vent. Maybe they have switched gear boxes.

But I will make sure I keep on top of greasing the bearings.

Thanks.
 
   / Let's talk flail mowers #6,312  
I bet you have a bearing starting to fail. Let me copy/paste a post I wrote over 6000 responses ago when I was asked why we no longer sell the Caroni mower. See below:

We had about a 25% failure rate on rotor bearings (on the drive side) in the first year, and then the race would weld itself to the shaft. It was a 2 hour or more job, plus a special order bearing to fix it. Now we stock the bearings and fix them for people that buy them at TSC, or people that bought them from us in the past. On the ones we sold, we did not charge anyone for a repair, but since the failure was due to inadequate greasing, or at least appeared to be, we would not ask Caroni to warranty it. So we ended up not making any money on them. That being said, if a customer is really diligent and greases the bearings often, they do hold up.

I have used Vrisimo flails for years. I sold one recently that probably had 3000 hours on it. Yes we replaced some bearings and even the rear roller over the years, but they are standard flange bearings and cheap and easy to change. So with the problems we were having on some of the Caroni's and the great luck we had with Vrisimo, we just decided to drop the Caroni and sell a commercial grade unit. Plus at about the same time TSC opened in our town and they sell Caroni. They buy in much higher volume, so our profit margin would have had to shrink. Combine all the factors, and it was time to drop Caroni.

As far as use, the Caroni has a rather small and noisy gearbox and if used for a couple of hours it will vent a fair bit of gear lube out of the gearbox. The Rears, Dandle, Alamo, and Vrisimo mowers just make a humming sound and generally don't vent much gear lube.

Just to be clear though, with good care, it's hard to beat a Caroni in a non-commercial application. They certainly are NOT poor qualtiy, they just aren't made for guys that mow all day every day like in orchards.

Great info and thanks for that. I doubt I will be looking at this anytime soon. My wife fell down a few days ago and hurt her ankle. The swelling is not going down and I finally forced her to go the Dr yesterday only to discover she has a broken ankle. Then today it was off the Hospital to see an Orthopedic Surgeon. He says she needs surgery to realign things and to put some pins in. We are now on a surgery wait list. Should happen in the next 2 to 3 days.
 
   / Let's talk flail mowers #6,313  
Are all Ford's more light duty mowers or just the L versions?

No, most Ford flail mowers are of equal quality to the JD and others. In fact, Bush Hog had Ford make their flail mowers. I wouldn't consider Ford along the lines of Alamo, but a little under Alamo. They're much better than the inexpensive ones you can buy imported in my opinion (including Caroni). Ford also offered a 917H (heavy duty). It looks very similar to their standard 917, except instead of an extra "bump" at the back of the hood for the roller the hood goes straight to the roller, and the belt cover is a different shape (similar to the shape of the 907 belt cover).

You will not be disappointed with a Ford as long as it is still in good shape, not needing major repairs. The nice thing about the 917 is you can go from course cut to fine cut by just changing out the blades and hangers (I think there might also be a small bolted-on weight that gets changed as well). If you want something in between, stick with the airplane wing blades. They cut heavy stuff, but leave a smoother finish than the course side slicers.
 
   / Let's talk flail mowers #6,314  
What's the reputation of Tiger Flail mowers? I've found of few of them a reasonable distance away. They seem heavy duty and mainly marketed for roadside ditch mowing

Tiger flails are among the best. They're equal to the Alamo mowers. I would take an Alamo over a Tiger only for parts availability. If you can find a source of parts for the Tiger you will be set. Blades and some bearings are readily available through Flailmaster, but other parts seem to be limited. Not saying they can't be found, I just haven't come across them.
 
   / Let's talk flail mowers #6,315  
My Caroni doesn't make much more noise than my Swiss watch once it's up to speed, and I have not seen any seepage from the vent. Maybe they have switched gear boxes.

But I will make sure I keep on top of greasing the bearings.

Thanks.

It has been many years (10?) since I wrote that. I suspect they changed the gearbox or the way the gears were cut. A gearbox failure on a Caroni mowers was rare, but the rotor bearing on the drive side ate our lunch for a couple of years. That too may have been fixed on newer models. The Caroni is a solid mower, just keep it greased and it'll run for years. It is not a Rears or Vrisimo, but you can buy 3 Caroni's for the price of one pro-grade mower. They are a good value.
 
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Great info and thanks for that. I doubt I will be looking at this anytime soon. My wife fell down a few days ago and hurt her ankle. The swelling is not going down and I finally forced her to go the Dr yesterday only to discover she has a broken ankle. Then today it was off the Hospital to see an Orthopedic Surgeon. He says she needs surgery to realign things and to put some pins in. We are now on a surgery wait list. Should happen in the next 2 to 3 days.

Sorry to hear about the serious injury. Wishing your wife a good outcome.
 
   / Let's talk flail mowers #6,317  
Are there any Flail mower owners in North Louisiana. I live in Lincoln Parish in North central louisiana. I have not been able to find anyone in my area. The two tractor dealers here know of them but have not sold one in over 5 yr. sure do need some help.

Allen
 
   / Let's talk flail mowers #6,318  
I just ordered a 60” Flail Mower from Titan Attachments. 13% off on Friday 13th. It’s coming with hammer flails, which is what I wanted most. I’m anticipating delivery Tuesday or Wednesday. I will follow up after I’ve used it some.
 
   / Let's talk flail mowers #6,319  
I've gone over about everything thread and post imaginable here. What new equipment is available as an offset fine cut finish flail. Stuff with high count blades seems lacking in the current market. I am looking for something to primarily tackle 2-3 acres of yard with fence line, pond, and property edges occasionally. So far I have only come up with Caroni with the F rotor, JD 390, and Alamo SHD74. Caroni seems hard to come by and seems like the others may be a bit much for my machine.
 
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