Family Tradition

[eubie5]

****, send me their phone number. I'll tell them.
You're gonna get mad at me because i won't lend you my new tractor???
Yeah, this should be good

Thanks for all of the suggestions. I guess I will have to man up hurt some feelings.

 

[bazman82]

I believe the key idea to be the best. I hardest part will be explaining to everyone why your BIL can use it (unless you don't let him use it either) but your own nephew can't.

 

[Handloader109]

Put the key on your main ring, lock the second one up where your wife doesn't know where. yep, one of them will ask her while you are gone.

It's easy. I'M assuming you are making payments. when they ask to use it, just tell them when they start making the payments they can use it.

it is really very easy. Just say NO. No explanation is needed. I'm sorry. No.... I'm really sorry, but no. No..... No...... and No

Sorry, but no one is on my new tractor but me.

 

[Reb954]

A few years ago a neighbor asked to borrow my tow rope. I just said, "nope". Shocked he asked why. I said, "cause the sky is blue". He asked what that had to do with anything. I said, "nothing, but one excuse is as good as another". I went further telling him if he needed me to go pull him that is fine but where the rope goes, I go.

I am cautious about loaning anything out and I don't feel any need to explain why to the person wanting to borrow an item.

Once in a while I will give a brief explanation though. My dad asked to borrow my car one day. I said, "nope". Shocked he asked why. I said, "look at the condition of your car then look at mine, nuff said?". Then I offered to drive him where he wanted to go.

 

[Thall303]

I can only imagine that you’re father is still wondering where he went wrong raising you!

 

[Sono]

In my younger years I helped friends and family however I could... Helping them move in 100 degree heat without breaking a sweat ( I was very active in health and sports ) working on vehicles and building street rods in my garage. Friends would borrow tools or use the garage from time to time, then stuff started going missing or not put away ( I am very **** about organization ) I finally had enough, friends would still ask to borrow this or that tool even when they had the same tools because they couldn't find them or too lazy to look. One told me "If I break or lose it, Ill buy you a new one" I just said, then go buy one! Wasn't being an Ahole, just tired of hunting stuff down. I had cabinets at the time, now almost 20 years later, I have tool chests and carts, They are locked when I am done each night. Everything is cleaned put away when I am done for the night. My wife even asks Why I keep them locked up.... kids, that's why ! Although the oldests are gone they would dig around and just throw them over their shoulders when finished. So, that curbed that, yeah, it hurt feelings but they learned pretty quick that I didn't play around when I said something... Put it back like it was or don't touch it. It was hard at first to say no, and would get that guilt trip / feelings... but soon everyone learns a lesson.

 

[Sono]

Once in a while I will give a brief explanation though. My dad asked to borrow my car one day. I said, "nope". Shocked he asked why. I said, "look at the condition of your car then look at mine, nuff said?". .

Funny, I say this to my wife about my truck....lol

 

[Sono]

A perfect example is my buddy. He bought a new, very expensive trailer ( he needed one to haul weight, not look pretty ) He lets me borrow or help with stuff because we both take really good care of our stuff. He made the mistake of lending it to a friend of his that doesn't give a rats *** about anything... Now this trailer was only a few weeks old at the time and this friend used the wrong sized ball ( even after being told what size it was he used what he had instead of just getting the hitch with the proper ball from my buddy ) yep you guessed it, he lost the trailer on the highway, the safety chains ( and Im even surprised he used them ) kept it with him, but bent the trailer tongue, smashed a fender into the wheel and did some grinding on the frame as well... My buddy was pissed and now completely banned him from borrowing anything ( he wont even hire him to help work on the rehabs he is doing as well since he wont take care of the tools ) I couldn't help buy laugh at him when he showed me what happened, and I asked When will he learn ? He replied with... Since he brought it back !

 

[Diggin It]

Man Sets Dog-Poop Bomb to Explode on Friend Who Borrowed His Tools and Didn't Give Them Back
Newsweek.com | Wed Sep 04, 2019 14:41 UTC

"It exploded with such force that it sounded like an M80 going off and the dog scat was blown out of the toolbox," according to a police report.

Man Sets Dog-Poop Bomb to Explode on Friend Who Borrowed His Tools and Didn't Give Them Back

 

[Fuddy1952]

Man Sets Dog-Poop Bomb to Explode on Friend Who Borrowed His Tools and Didn't Give Them Back

Dog poop from a retriever?

 

[Deere Dude]

That is a tough one, especially if you borrow things from them also. It is much easier to saw no even to family if you never need to borrow their stuff.

I have a brother that was always borrowing from everybody, even me. I finally said no when he wanted my log-splitter.

One reason I said no is because him and his wife both have great jobs and spend money of big motorcycles quite often and every other form of toy you can get. He was never responsible in the loaning department.

 

[DingDangKid]

Take a front tire off every time you finish with it and put it somewhere they cannot get to it. That might not be applicable here but I did hear of someone doing that on a smallish machine.

I typically let my brother use my tractor but one day I blew the front tire and walked it right off the rim. I didn't have time to fix so I yanked the key and went to work.

Hours later I get a somewhat angry message from my brother why I took the key, did he do something wrong?

Me : " Nope it's so nobody takes off with the tire off the rim"
Him: " I didn't even notice that"
Me: " Yup, that's why I pulled the key"



Yesterday, the same brother took out the neighbors'(uncle) garage door delivery some freshly milled wood.

 

[D2Cat]

RollTideRam, you ought to appreciate this response considering your moniker.

When you order the new tractor let them all (those who always borrow) know: "The TIDE has changed. You've always borrowed my tools, but not this tractor. My new policy is 'You buy it, I'll borrow it' and let's see how that works."

 

[Sono]

run a coil wire under the seat... itll be a shocking experience.

 

[sdquick]

I was wondering when that ^^^ would show up. :shocked:

Good analogy, though.

Nowadays, someone might take you up on the offer!!!!!

 

[sdquick]

I remember hearing that all frustration comes from unmet expectations. So, make the expectations clear at the start. Have them all for dinner and state that things HAVE to be different with the new tractor. State that ONLY the "owner" will be the only operator (liability, insurance, ...). Tell them that there are 2 options. 1) All (or some) go in on it and are equal owners in the purchase and REQUIRED $ for yearly maintenance and upkeep. All owners can use the tractor. 2) You will put out all the $ and be the only owner and operator. You will help (being the operator) with their projects, as they will help you with yours, but that non-owners can not use the tractor.

I also always remember my mom saying " Never borrow anything you are not willing to buy and never lend anything you are not willing to give away".

 

[buckeyefarmer]

Nowadays, someone might take you up on the offer!!!!!

Which is why i said you might not want to try this with family, they might just accept.

 

[jenkinsph]

Just let them know you will be the only operator of your new tractor. You can decide when or whether you can help with their projects. Period.

The key removal may sound good but lots of tractor keys are common to models. Unless you specify that the tractor is not lent out this problem will continue.

 

[ovrszd]

Just let them know you will be the only operator of your new tractor. You can decide when or whether you can help with their projects. Period.

The key removal may sound good but lots of tractor keys are common to models. Unless you specify that the tractor is not lent out this problem will continue.

I've never removed the key from my tractor. With your thoughts, I guess it wouldn't do any good?

 

[buckeyefarmer]

I always remove my tractor key, why make it easier to steal.