Used L3400 question

[artho45]

I am looking at a 2007 L3400. I have a couple of questions. It has a loader, but does not have the quick attach, can this be added now? any idea how much this would cost. I need to have a grapple fork. Growing up we always had loaders with a bucket and a grapple fork. can I put a fork on the bucket that is with the loader. I know that I would have to install the extra remote which I think I could do after watching a video on here that someone posted.
This tractor has 1200 hours on it. Anything that I should be especially looking for on this age a hour of tractor?

thanks,
Art

 

[jeff9366]

On a tractor of this age I suggest clamp-on bucket Debris Forks or clamp-on bucket UltraForks in 24" length.

The mods you are considering may cost as much as you are likely to pay for this tractor.

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[jeff9366]

This tractor has 1200 hours on it. Anything that I should be especially looking for on this age a hour of tractor?

Inside stored or outside stored? Outside stored always possible rodents have chewed the wiring.

Look for oil and hydraulic fluid leaks.

Check the loader carefully to be sure it is not "tweaked".

Check the tires, especially rear tires, for condition. Rear tires are expensive.

Plan on changing all the fluids and all the filters immediately after you purchase.

VIDEO: How To Evaluate A Used Tractor L3800 - YouTube

 

[artho45]

On a tractor of this age I suggest clamp-on bucket Debris Forks or clamp-on bucket UltraForks in 24" length.

The mods you are considering will cost more than you are likely to pay for this tractor.

HIGHEST QUALITY FORKS: Tractor Debris Forks

They're asking $8000 for the tractor. would the third remote, conversion to SSQA and a grapple cost that much? Is the tractor priced to high. It's really hard to find a good quality used tractor of that size in my area.

 

[artho45]

Inside stored or outside stored? Outside stored always possible rodents have chewed the wiring.

Look for oil and hydraulic fluid leaks.

Check the loader carefully to be sure it is not "tweaked".

Check the tires, especially rear tires, for condition. Rear tires are expensive.

Plan on changing all the fluids and all the filters immediately after you purchase.

VIDEO: How To Evaluate A Used Tractor L3800 - YouTube

thanks, the video is very informative.

 

[artho45]

Complete your T-B-N PROFILE by adding your location, such as: Central Idaho, Texas Panhandle, Upstate New York,
UP Michigan, North-Central Florida.

Tractor prices are regional.

update my profile.

Since central Nebraska is a very agricultural state, there does not seem to be many CUT tractors available in my area. I am willing to travel to get something that would fit me needs.

 

[jeff9366]

They're asking $8000 for the tractor. Is the tractor priced too high? It's hard to find a good quality used tractor of that size in my area.

Which engine?

What transmission?

2-WD or 4-WD?


The contemporary Kubota model equivalent to the L3400 is the Model L3301. With Loader, HST, 4-WD about $23,000 today.

L3301: Open page, cursor down to L3301.
https://www.kubotausa.com/docs/default-source/brochure-sheets/l2501.pdf?sfvrsn=34e9b1d_8

You can compare L3400 and L3301 specifications.





Kubota L3400

2004 - 2010 Standard L Series
Compact Utility tractor
Next model: Kubota L3800
Series next: Kubota L4400
Series back: Kubota L2800

Manufacturer: Kubota
Original price (USD): $14,137 (2011)

Variants:
L3400F: 2WD gear
L3400DT: 4WD gear
L3400HST: 4WD hydro

Kubota L3400 Engines:
Kubota 1.6L 3-cyl diesel
Kubota 1.8L 3-cyl diesel
Kubota L3400 Power:
Engine (gross): 35.7 hp [26.6 kW]
Engine (net): 34.2 hp [25.5 kW]
PTO (claimed): 30 hp [22.4 kW] (gear late)
29 hp [21.6 kW] (gear early)
28.5 hp [21.3 kW] (hydro late)
27.5 hp [20.5 kW] (hydro early)

Capacity:
Fuel: 9 gal [34.1 L]
Hydraulic system: 7.3 gal [27.6 L]
Front axle: 4.8 qts [4.5 L]

3-Point Hitch:
Rear Type: I
Rear lift (at ends): 1,985 lbs [900 kg]
Rear lift (at 24"/610mm): 1,433 lbs [650 kg]

Power Take-off (PTO):
Rear PTO: live
independent (hydro)
Rear RPM: 540 (1.375)
Engine RPM: 540@2425

Dimensions & Tires:
Wheelbase: 63.3 inches [160 cm]
Weight: 2403 to 2600 pounds
Front tire: 5-15
Rear tire: 11.2-24

Kubota L3400 attachments:
front-end loader
backhoe

Mechanical:
Chassis: 4x2 2WD
4x4 MFWD 4WD (optional)
Differential lock: rear standard
Steering: power
Brakes: mechanical wet disc
Cab: Two-post ROPS. Foldable ROPS and sunshade optional.

Hydraulics:
Type: open center
Capacity: 7.3 gal [27.6 L]
Valves: 0 to 3
Pump flow: 6.8 gpm [25.7 lpm]
Total flow: 10.9 gpm [41.3 lpm]
Steering flow: 4.1 gpm [15.5 lpm]


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[artho45]

It's a 4WD diesel. HST

 

[jeff9366]

It's a 4WD diesel. HST

$8,000 as above, with a Loader, is a good price. Go for it.

 

[ccsial]

The PTO on the HST is a bit fragile. People with rototillers have had failures. My 2005 is used for mowing and snow blowing with no problems. There was an upgrade on the PTO cams around 2007 I think. The PTO cable is a weak spot. I changed mine at 420 hours. Easy to do. There is also a suction hose on the left side just under the floor board that has been known to split. Mine is still OK at 590 hours but I have a spare in my parts bin.

This tractor has been very good and almost trouble free for me. The PTO cable is the only issue I have had.

 

[TMGT]

Does it have the Xtrapower emblem on the side of the engine compartment? Kubota switched engines from a 1.6L to a 1.8L around 2008, however I have seen a few tractors listed as 07 with the larger engine.

As for the ssqa, the last time I saw the adapter listed it was just under $500 from Kubota or Ati, that was a few years ago. You can also put one together from universal parts for about $200 if you are comfortable/able to do the fabrication.

You still need to either adapt your bucket or buy a replacement depending on if you can cut and weld an adapter plate onto the existing bucket. Figure from about $100 for the plate to about $4-600 for a new bucket (you could also find a used bucket that might work).

3rd function kit seems to be about 7-800 for a pre-made, if you're able to put your own together it could be done for about half that.

Grapples have a pretty wide range of cost but you should be able to get a decent one for 1500, possible a little less.

Figure about $2100 doing almost everything yourself (including fabrication) to about $3400 buying everything (and still installing it yourself).

These are just ballpark figures based on the prices I've seen. Not bad either way for how much utility it'll add to the tractor.

As for the price, sounds pretty good unless the tractors been abused.

 

[Thomas]

Some L3400 & L2800 around that year had jerky 3 point hitch when rising or lowering,also fuel gauge may not show correct level.

 

[jeff9366]

They're asking $8000. Is the tractor priced too high?

It's a 4WD, diesel, HST, 1,200 hours.

The contemporary Kubota model equivalent to the L3400 is the Model L3301. With Loader, HST, 4-WD about $23,000 today.

Kubota L3400
2004 - 2010 Standard L Series
Compact Utility tractor

Manufacturer: Kubota
Original price (USD): $14,137 (2011)

1) L3301 = $23,000 (plus sales tax) today, versus $8,000 (no sales tax) for a direct predecessor model with nearly the same specs.



2) $14,000 (plus sales tax) in 2011. $8,000 today. Difference = $6,000.

$6000 depreciation / 1,200 engine hours = $5.00 per operating hour in depreciation. Reasonable.
($6,000 in older, more valuable dollars.)



Either price evaluation, if tractor is in good shape, GO FOR IT.


Assuming prudent maintenance, Kubota engine in a L3400 should run 9,000 to 10,000 hours before requiring major service.

Average residential use of tractors is 80 engine hours per year.

Assuming prudent maintenance, minimal financial risk if purchased at $8,000.

 

[TMGT]

1) $23,000 (plus sales tax) today, versus $8,000 (no sales tax) for a direct predecessor model with nearly the same specs.



2) $14,000 (plus sales tax) in 2011. $8,000 today. Difference = $6,000.

$6000 depreciation / 1,200 engine hours = $5.00 per operating hour in depreciation. Reasonable.
($6,000 in older, more valuable dollars.)



Either price evaluation, if tractor is in good shape, GO FOR IT.


Assuming prudent maintenance, Kubota engine in a L3400 should run 9,000 to 10,000 hours before requiring major service.

Average residential use of tractors is 80 engine hours per year.

Assuming prudent maintenance, minimal financial risk if purchased at $8,000.

$14,000 was msrp for the base tractor, with loader and hst they were about $18,000+ new in 2009 when I was looking, after discounts.

 

[BLSXJ]

I purchased a used 2005 L3400 4wd HST. I converted the loader to a quick attach system, using parts from kubota for less then $500 CDN!.... the hardest part was converting the bucket. removing the pin on brackets and welding on the SSQA plate has been covered many a times (search). I did the SSQA conversion, SSQA bucket plate and SSQA pallet forks for less then $1000 cdn.

the third function for the loader can be added, I would suggest you look up the cost from Everything Attachments.

From experience I think the three biggest "issues" or short comings to the L3400 are, in order;

1. FEL lift capacity
2. Lack of rear remotes
3. jerky 3 point hitch

 

[majorwager]

Agree with BLSXJ pricing analysis. Seems accurate. The kubota pin on bucket brackets are wierd configuration. Unless handy in metal working, purchase new SSQA ready bucket from Tomahawk, very reasonably priced, less aggravation. Might be able to sell used bucket, if someone has one which is damaged??

This company offers a SSQA with the new brackets attached, they are adjustable to fit, it is a plug-n-play installation, NO welding, little more expense, but simple expedited process. See screenshot.

 

[Fallon]

I purchased a used 2005 L3400 4wd HST. I converted the loader to a quick attach system, using parts from kubota for less then $500 CDN!.... the hardest part was converting the bucket. removing the pin on brackets and welding on the SSQA plate has been covered many a times (search). I did the SSQA conversion, SSQA bucket plate and SSQA pallet forks for less then $1000 cdn.

the third function for the loader can be added, I would suggest you look up the cost from Everything Attachments.

From experience I think the three biggest "issues" or short comings to the L3400 are, in order;

1. FEL lift capacity
2. Lack of rear remotes
3. jerky 3 point hitch

My L3200 didnt have a smooth 3pt, but it wasnt as bad as some of the other L3200 & L3400s I've heard or seen. Might be luck of the draw there. Put an impliment on the hitch hlift it an inch or 2 at a time. That will show the worst case scenario for jerky hitch.

I added 3 remotes on the rear of my L3200. It was a bit of work & engineering, mostly due to my ignorance. You could probably even just use a kit or a current L3301 as the frame is nearly the same & the plumbing should be the same fittings in the same spots.

Not clear on the loader differences between the L3200 & a L3400. But my L3200 could pull the back end off the ground with a couple hundred lbs of junk on the back of a 5' rotary cutter as ballast. It was rated to 1,200lbs at the pins I think & I was barely moving some "1,200lbs" big square bales (+200lbs for forks & even more for leverage with the bale that far out). The tractor size was the limitation, not the loader lift capacity.

A FYI, you need a real 3rd function for the economy Kubotas. They only do regen dump, so a diverter really doesnt work well.

 

[BLSXJ]

I agree with you Fallon

to expand just a bit more. I realize the FEL capacity does "match" the tractor chassis size, but I've found myself needing more capacity more then once. If I could do it all over again I'd try to find a grand L tractor so I could keep the general foot print of my machine... but gain some weight and FEL capacity

I fully recognize that adding rear remotes is possible, its only a time and money thing.

the Jerky 3 point hitch is something I can live with.... I understand why its jerky... it doesn't effect me using a rear blade/ snowblower or my chipper. But it might be a deal breaker for some poeple.

 

[Fallon]

I agree with you Fallon

to expand just a bit more. I realize the FEL capacity does "match" the tractor chassis size, but I've found myself needing more capacity more then once. If I could do it all over again I'd try to find a grand L tractor so I could keep the general foot print of my machine... but gain some weight and FEL capacity

I fully recognize that adding rear remotes is possible, its only a time and money thing.

the Jerky 3 point hitch is something I can live with.... I understand why its jerky... it doesn't effect me using a rear blade/ snowblower or my chipper. But it might be a deal breaker for some poeple.

My grand is double the weight my economy machine was, but has less than double the loader capacity. I think that's more the economy machine having a strong loader that the grand having a weak loader. There is going to be a weak spot somewhere (hydraulics, ballast, frame...)

The grand is a noticably bigger machine & double the price. So it's not necessarily superior in every way. I ran out of loader capacity occasionally on my old machine, but that's not why I upgraded (I wanted a cab & HST+). Figure out your needs & try to match them. Bigger isnt always better (but as per TBN is more often than not).