willysmb
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Anyone know anything about a Belarus 572? Never even heard of them until yesterday. Are they impossible to find parts for?
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Sawyer Rob
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When it comes to Russian tractors, the motors aren't bad, but they should have left the rest of the tractor in Russia... lol
Truth is, if you never had anything else, you may even get to like them, as long as you can do your own repairs!
I consider them one step up from a Chinese tractor, still far behind the other brands...
A place near Ionia sold those Belarus new... (that's now out of business)
SR
Truth is, if you never had anything else, you may even get to like them, as long as you can do your own repairs!
I consider them one step up from a Chinese tractor, still far behind the other brands...
A place near Ionia sold those Belarus new... (that's now out of business)
SR
artfull dodger
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There are a couple small farms around here that run nothing but Belerus. From what I have seen they are a basic tractor with no extra frills, many are air cooled if not all of them(not sure on that part). The folks that have them, and do thier own repairs seem to like them. Kind of like those that swear by the Deutz brand. As like every brand, there are lovers and haters. Mike
claggstractors
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That one is acutally still in current production at MTZ in Belarus. Parts are readily available from MTZ Equipment LTD in Ontario,Canada and at US warehouse in Texas. Nice, big 290 cu in engine. Same engine is used in the bigger 952 that puts out 100 PTO hp with a turbo. The 572 is rated at 45 PTO hp but odds are is actually closer to 60 HP. Could be either a 9 or 18 speed transmission. Should have down pressure on the hitch also. Simple, heavy and reliable tractors.
Sawyer Rob
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The "Deutz" name shouldn't even be spoken in the same paragraph with Belarus, and for sure NOT the same sentence!! lol Deutz tractors are a thousand percent better tractors all the way around!
Belarus sell cheap for a reason, they have very weak clutches and lots of hydraulic problems and oil leaks and on and on... I've seen them for $400.00 bucks and wouldn't even pay that.
Sorry, but I need something that doesn't have constant leaks and other problems!
SR
technodvor
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Parts are readily available, the 572 model is a 64Hp tractor, which is quite reliable.
technodvor
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I am quite sure you must have been seeing very ''older'' tractors, probably produced in the 80's or early 90's
Timbersawz
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Plenty of issues with the big "name" tractors out there, just this year a big fendt lapped up a $40,000 gearbox repair at 4000 hours and a 4 year old 100 horse MF did simular with less hours (and the repairs so steep its gone to the wreckers), My friends 3 year old Deutz lunched its front diff for no apparent reason, causing other issues and cost him about 8k to get it repaired. Myself I have spent the equivalent of weeks waiting for a tech to come reset the gearbox in JD's and Fords when contracting, a few times I had to call overseas to get the reset procedure!
After an accident with a backing dozer, the entire replacement front diff for a guys 4wd Belarus cost him under 4k. All shiny new.
The MTZ/Belarus tractors make up 8% of the tractors made world wide. (3 million made and counting.....) They work in some of the most inhospitable climate and are probably able to be maintained more by there owners than any other modern brand. Older ones are being brought up all over and sent to africa, asia etc where they want a hard working tractor that will give them the longest service for least cost.
Are they refined and car like to drive? Oh heck no, but you get alot of tractor for the money
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Sawyer Rob
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Plenty of low houred Belarus for sale CHEEEEP, sounds like you better buy them up and have a fleet of week clutched, week hydraulics, leakers with poor electrical systems, that will be easy to fix...
I buy a tractor to use, not work on...
SR
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Timbersawz
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Very few people buy anything to work on, and I have to keep about 130 or so pistons moving to keep me and my 5 guys working, I cant afford repairs or downtime and Im 2 hours away from the closest dealer. I work on my own tractors, chippers, stump grinders, trucks, chainsaws, skidsteer, skidder etc and appreciate having a machine, should it have issues, is not beyond repair by me or my guys (as ALL gear breaks down)
Everyone has a budget and priorities they have to work to when they buy gear. The belarus tractors have improved alot since the 80's and early 90's.
My 2003 4wd cab 100hp low hour belarus with a great loader was a quarter the price of anything else with the same specs. It doesnt suffer any of the issues you have named and it was what I can afford and it gets the job done.
There are better machines out there, much like there are better machines than deutz, but you pay what you can afford to get the machine to do the job you need.
Everyone has a budget and priorities they have to work to when they buy gear. The belarus tractors have improved alot since the 80's and early 90's.
My 2003 4wd cab 100hp low hour belarus with a great loader was a quarter the price of anything else with the same specs. It doesnt suffer any of the issues you have named and it was what I can afford and it gets the job done.
There are better machines out there, much like there are better machines than deutz, but you pay what you can afford to get the machine to do the job you need.
technodvor
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Thanks Timbersawz, for your insightful contribution.
Most times, just because some set of people desire to hang a dog, they tend to give such dogs bad names)))
I currently own a Belarus 250AS 31 hp. I wouldn't trade it for ANYTHING! I sold Belarus tractors for years, and they are some of the best engineered machines out there. The people that give them a bad rap, don't know what they are talking about! The tractors sold here produced in the 90's were of less than stellar quality, ****, if you worked in a factory and couldn't get a regular paycheck, would you do your best work? They came out of the breakup of the Soviet Union relatively quickly, and are doing great now. How many countries could even survive something like that? If you care for your Belarus, and maintain it, it will outlast most other brands! Prejudice is alive and well in this country unfortunately.
I sold over 100 Belarus tractors, and only had ONE guy that tore the clutch up, and it was HIS fault. A clutch is a clutch, don't matter what brand it is, they are all similar, with the exception that Belarus has a bigger heavier clutch than any machine i ever worked on. Most of my warranty claims on Belarus were the owner's fault, and Belarus paid to repair anyway. The people that trash them sure don't know what they are talking about!
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Hurliman,
Did you have customers break a lot of front wheel rims and spindles? Someone told me he had that problem on his Belarus. This was a larger tractor around 100 hp and water cooled, I think.
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I'm asking out of curiosity. I have no dog in this fight.
Did you have customers break a lot of front wheel rims and spindles? Someone told me he had that problem on his Belarus. This was a larger tractor around 100 hp and water cooled, I think.
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I'm asking out of curiosity. I have no dog in this fight.
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Sawyer Rob
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There was a guy not far from here, he had a 572 and it went through clutches too, like two of them in 100 hrs... (from new)
This wasn't clutch abuse either, the guy was a farmer with several tractors and the 572 was the only one with clutch problems...
He got smart after the second one and had the wore out clutch plate "relined" with better material, and at least the clutch problem went away...
SR
This wasn't clutch abuse either, the guy was a farmer with several tractors and the 572 was the only one with clutch problems...
He got smart after the second one and had the wore out clutch plate "relined" with better material, and at least the clutch problem went away...
SR
I had a guy that hauled massive logs with his 65hp tractor with a Great Bend loader. He wouldn't keep his lug nuts tight and ruined some wheels, but never had any broken spindles. I sure had broken axles, wheels final drives on Kubota's!
Clutches don't go out by themselves. It is usually the nut behind the wheel. I had a customer who could destroy a two stage clutch on his Kioti 3054 every few months. He said Kioti had weak clutches, so the last clutch i put in for him i layed the Kioti clutch on the shop floor next to a Kubota clutch. I said which one is the Kioti weak clutch? They were identical. I then disassembled the Kioti clutch and showed him the metal parts that had turned blue from heat, from slipping the clutch. Once again, nut behind the wheel! Fyi, the 572 Belarus 65hp, has the same clutch as the 100hp Belarus has......enough said!
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This guy said he broke the wheels and spindles hauling hay.bales. If I remember correctly he claimed they weighed 1800 pounds. Even wet, I don't think mine are that heavy, but, I just kept quiet and remembered what he said for future reference.
Sawyer Rob
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Depends on what baler was used and the size of the bale, moisture content ect...
Some bales easily go over 2,000 pounds...
SR
