dot numbers for those under 26000lbs

[radioman]

guys - i bought a ram promaster with Gross vehicle weight rating 8,550 to 9,350 lbs . my registration says 7k weight. I want to tow my 16ft dual axle trailer for work and trailer is rated for 7k gross. I guessing with this combination, ill be over the fmcsa dot weight rating system of 10,001 lbs.

Besides registering for the dot numbers what else do i need to do? do i need a medical card? do i really need to keep a log book for every mile i drive? anything you guys can throw at me would be good. I dont ever plan on being over 26001 lbs so you guys can relax on me needing to get a cdl lincense. is there anything i need to carry in the van as part of dot requirements?

let me tell you -- the fmcsa website , in my opinion is giving me a headache. i'm hoping to hear from the seasoned tbn'ers what they know in plain english.

 

[TSO]

You do not need DOT registration with this setup, as You are under 26,001. (Unless you are crossing state lines)

 

[sam5570]

guys - i bought a ram promaster with Gross vehicle weight rating 8,550 to 9,350 lbs . my registration says 7k weight. I want to tow my 16ft dual axle trailer for work and trailer is rated for 7k gross. I guessing with this combination, ill be over the fmcsa dot weight rating system of 10,001 lbs.

Besides registering for the dot numbers what else do i need to do? do i need a medical card? do i really need to keep a log book for every mile i drive? anything you guys can throw at me would be good. I dont ever plan on being over 26001 lbs so you guys can relax on me needing to get a cdl lincense. is there anything i need to carry in the van as part of dot requirements?

let me tell you -- the fmcsa website , in my opinion is giving me a headache. i'm hoping to hear from the seasoned tbn'ers what they know in plain english.

Go to this thread that I started will give you the info you need {is this the law] in rural living

 

[OldMasterTech]

Both your truck & trailer and you (DOT health card) are exempt. Just an FYI, if stopped by DOT the GVW is that posted on the manufacturers nameplate, not that which is on the registration.

 

[newbury]

Go to this thread that I started will give you the info you need {is this the law] in rural living

Did you mean to provide a link?

 

[radioman]

according to DOT fmcsa website:

Question 11: A company has a truck with a GVWR under 10,001 pounds towing a trailer with a GVWR under 10,001 pounds. However, the GVWR of the truck added to the GVWR of the trailer is greater than 10,001 pounds. Would the company operating this vehicle in interstate commerce have to comply with the FMCSRs?

Guidance: §390.5 of the FMCSRs includes in the definition of CMV a vehicle with a GVWR or GCWR of 10,001 or more pounds. The section further defines GCWR as the value specified by the manufacturer as the loaded weight of a combination (articulated) vehicle. Therefore, if the GVWR of the truck added to the GVWR of the trailer exceeds 10,001 pounds, the driver and vehicle are subject to the FMCSRs.

I plan on traveling out of state at times with my trailer. the license plate is CMV.

 

[terryknight]

if you cross state lines you need to follow the federal rules.

 

[smstonypoint]

Go to this thread that I started will give you the info you need {is this the law] in rural living

Did you mean to provide a link?

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/rural-living/378031-law.html#post4742629

Steve

 

[JJZ 109]

And generally, if your rigs aren't logo'd and lettered up so that they're obviously commercial, law enforcement isn't going to bother you.

 

[radioman]

does anyone knows whats the federal rules are ?

 

[terryknight]

Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration

what rules were you looking for?

 

[bdog]

Yes if crossing state lines for business purposes and over 10k you need dot numbers, commercial inspections in truck and trailer, med card, UCR, driver files, fire extinguisher, reflective triangles, and log book which is going to be required to be replaced by elogs in December. I have had a DOT number since 2008 and run several trucks over 10k but under 26k and some over 26k. I deal with this stuff almost daily and can answer whatever you need to know.

 

[Copperhead]

And states will differ. Some states, just having a horse trailer and a pickup pulling it, if gross is over 10,001 lb and there is any business related activity to moving horses or livestock, then all CDL and health card stuff comes into play. Ask the folks who go to the horse sales at Kalona Iowa if that is not true. DOT likes to set up shop at those sales and bust folks. That is a major Amish area of the the state and a lot of that horse flesh is bought for resale in other areas of the state and country. That is commerce, and all regulatory stuff applies. These same DOT guys, if they suspect you are hauling around equipment that is being used commercially and not just for your own personal pursuits, they will apply the same thing to you. Does not require it to be interstate. Intrastate rules may also apply, especially if the state has adopted the FMCSA guidelines as they apply to interstate. Check with your local DOT enforcement office (the information is free) and don't rely on anecdotal internet banter. The fines can be pretty hefty if you are in violation. Some states will still require a state number on the vehicle, or at least paperwork showing proof of obtaining, even if it does not cross state lines. The Fed rules are bad enough. Individual states can do whatever they want inside of their own state for intrastate commercial use. They have to follow the Fed rules for interstate vehicles.

bdog may have a handle of in state as it applies to TX or interstate, but the OP is from NY. Folks in the NE part of the country have peculiar ways of handing things inside their own state. I have been involved in interstate commerce operations since the early 80's. I may have a pretty good grasp on interstate stuff, but even I call up my local DOT office regarding stuff I do in the state with my stuff that doesn't cross state lines. State rules change much more frequently than federal rules it seems like.

 

[bdog]

I am not talking about state rules. I am talking about interstate federal rules that apply in all states if crossing state lines for commerce which is what OP is doing. I have no idea on individual intrastate rules other than Texas