Please try & talk me out of a Kubota L4060

[k0ua]

Well, my L3200 & a few implements ran off today & i'm left with a small wad of cash. Gonna be hitting up local dealers shortly for:

• L4060 HSTC
• LA805 or preferably LA1055 loader
• R4 tires (Max width set to 72" or a bit less)
• Loaded rears
• 3 rear hydraulic spools (2 float for TnT & 1 detented)
• Top & Tilt kit
• 3rd function (extra loader hydraulic circuit)
• High capacity alternator
• Rear wiper kit
• Rear defogger kit
• Air ride seat
• Block heater

Planning on adding front & rear LED light bars, a stereo & quick hitch myself. See anything else I'm missing?

I don't think I can justify the extra $6k for a L4760 & LA1055 over a L4060 & LA805. For some reason it can have the bigger loader that the L4060 can't, despite the only difference being an extra cylinder & couple extra HP. The bigger loader would be nice, but not critical to my operation.

A big step up. I am sure you will really enjoy having the new machine.

 

[Fallon]

I got the HD bucket and chain hooks on mine, otherwise it looks like you're covered.

I put bucket hooks on my L3200 myself. They were great up until I got pallet forks, at which point I hardly used them again. May or may not put em on again. Just easier to hook on all the bar on the pallet forks, along with the better visibility & more positions to easily rig from.

 

[LD1]

Sounds about just like the step I made.

Went from a L3400 Gear to a

MX5100 HST, loaded tires, SSQA, front grapple/diverter, 3 rear remotes TNT, etc.

Having a cap and air ride seat would have been even nicer. But couldnt justify the money. And I'd likely have the cab beat to death by now in the woods and along tree-line edges.

I am extremely happy with my upgrade. Specifically the SSQA/grapple/diverter along with increased lift capacity.....and the remotes/TNT. I think you will like your new setup.

 

[TripleR]

I put bucket hooks on my L3200 myself. They were great up until I got pallet forks, at which point I hardly used them again. May or may not put em on again. Just easier to hook on all the bar on the pallet forks, along with the better visibility & more positions to easily rig from.

I've got pallet forks as well, but mostly have a bucket or grapple on and easier to use a chain on the hooks than drive a mile or so back to the barn and put pallet forks on.

 

[LD1]

Oh, and I just noticed you want the LA1055 loader.

I could be wrong, but I believe you have to jump to the L4760 to get that.

And since we are having fun spending someone elses money........if you do have to upsize to get the bigger loader.....skip the 4760 and look at the 5460. Just to see what the price difference is, cause if they are close, I think the 5460 has some real advantages over the 4760

1. Larger front tires. At least with AG's. So check and see what the R4 offerings are.
2. Little bit stronger 3PH
3. More power:licking:
4. Turbo. Dont know what your elevation is in CO, but a turbo may be a huge benefit

 

[Fallon]

Oh, and I just noticed you want the LA1055 loader.

I could be wrong, but I believe you have to jump to the L4760 to get that.

And since we are having fun spending someone elses money........if you do have to upsize to get the bigger loader.....skip the 4760 and look at the 5460. Just to see what the price difference is, cause if they are close, I think the 5460 has some real advantages over the 4760

1. Larger front tires. At least with AG's. So check and see what the R4 offerings are.
2. Little bit stronger 3PH
3. More power:licking:
4. Turbo. Dont know what your elevation is in CO, but a turbo may be a huge benefit

Ya, I want that loader, but as you noted it's only an option on the L4760 I believe. It boggles my mind as the L4060 & L4760 are the same frame & weigh within 200lbs of each other. Upselling marketing restriction I bet.

A turbo would be nice at our 6,500' of elevation, but my normally aspirated L3200 was fine. I can't justify a bigger machine. My L3200 did 90-95% of what I needed. If they made a higher HP 3000 series grand rather than the underpowered L3560 I'd probably go that route. On the Kubota website it's $6k more for a L4760 & loader over a L4060 & loader, which already is out of my budget, a 5000 series machine would be a lot more. Not to mention the additional transportation & manuverability issues.

 

[LD1]

IF the 4760 is 6k more, you have to decide how bad you want that bigger loader. Maybe the dealer can work something out IF the bigger loader will indeed bolt on. Maybe there is an axle difference to account for the ~200#, because everything else between the 4760 and 4060 look identical?? And 200# in the front axle area would be significant.

The 4760 vs 5460 is only a ~$2500 difference. So if you decide to part with the extra $6k.....just throw another $2500 with it and go all in

 

[MtnViewRanch]

Ya, I want that loader, but as you noted it's only an option on the L4760 I believe. It boggles my mind as the L4060 & L4760 are the same frame & weigh within 200lbs of each other. Upselling marketing restriction I bet.

A turbo would be nice at our 6,500' of elevation, but my normally aspirated L3200 was fine. I can't justify a bigger machine. My L3200 did 90-95% of what I needed. If they made a higher HP 3000 series grand rather than the underpowered L3560 I'd probably go that route. On the Kubota website it's $6k more for a L4760 & loader over a L4060 & loader, which already is out of my budget, a 5000 series machine would be a lot more. Not to mention the additional transportation & manuverability issues.

You may have said in a different thread and I just missed it, but why did you decide not to go Korean and stay with a Kubota? Money seems to go further going Korean.

As a side note, don't count on getting the "T&T" from Kubota, they are having problems again with no known date to be solved. Or so I have been told recently, over and over and over.

 

[Fallon]

You may have said in a different thread and I just missed it, but why did you decide not to go Korean and stay with a Kubota? Money seems to go further going Korean.

As a side note, don't count on getting the "T&T" from Kubota, they are having problems again with no known date to be solved. Or so I have been told recently, over and over and over.

Might be hitting you up for another TnT & ditching OEM depending on how that option might delay things. ;-) Do you have a solution pre-engineereed for a L4060? Lead time still a month or 2?

I just wasn't that impressed with the only local LS, TYM & Kioti dealer.The LS & TYM machines were decent machines, but not nearly as polished as the Kubotas. Trying to get to filters & what not was hard, along with some other engineering oversights, no 2 speed HST+, etc. They were turboed, hich is nice for Colorado, but not critical where im at.

They only had a couple bigger Kiotis on the lot. They were happy to order one in, but no way I'd go that route without being able to see & drive it first.

The Koreans build a solid tractor, but not nearly as nice or premium as Kubota. They were noticably cheaper & it was very tempting, but I decided to stick with Kubota 20 minutes away rather than the only small mom & pop shop in CO selling Korean 2.5 hours away.

 

[k0ua]

Might be hitting you up for another TnT & ditching OEM depending on how that option might delay things. ;-) Do you have a solution pre-engineereed for a L4060? Lead time still a month or 2?

I just wasn't that impressed with the only local LS, TYM & Kioti dealer.The LS & TYM machines were decent machines, but not nearly as polished as the Kubotas. Trying to get to filters & what not was hard, along with some other engineering oversights, no 2 speed HST+, etc. They were turboed, hich is nice for Colorado, but not critical where im at.

They only had a couple bigger Kiotis on the lot. They were happy to order one in, but no way I'd go that route without being able to see & drive it first.

The Koreans build a solid tractor, but not nearly as nice or premium as Kubota. They were noticably cheaper & it was very tempting, but I decided to stick with Kubota 20 minutes away rather than the only small mom & pop shop in CO selling Korean 2.5 hours away.

That is too bad as our 30 minute away Kioti dealer has a long row of them with more out front by the road.

 

[MtnViewRanch]

Might be hitting you up for another TnT & ditching OEM depending on how that option might delay things. ;-) Do you have a solution pre-engineereed for a L4060? Lead time still a month or 2?

I just wasn't that impressed with the only local LS, TYM & Kioti dealer.The LS & TYM machines were decent machines, but not nearly as polished as the Kubotas. Trying to get to filters & what not was hard, along with some other engineering oversights, no 2 speed HST+, etc. They were turboed, hich is nice for Colorado, but not critical where im at.

They only had a couple bigger Kiotis on the lot. They were happy to order one in, but no way I'd go that route without being able to see & drive it first.

The Koreans build a solid tractor, but not nearly as nice or premium as Kubota. They were noticably cheaper & it was very tempting, but I decided to stick with Kubota 20 minutes away rather than the only small mom & pop shop in CO selling Korean 2.5 hours away.

Thanks for answering the tractor make question, was just curious is all. Everyone looks at things a bit different and was just interested.

As far as my engineering, I don't have a problem and never have, my units fit. It is Kubota and their vender that have the problems.

As far as lead times, currently running about 10-12 weeks, down from even longer lead times that I had been running the past 5-6 months.

 

[sixdogs]

Congratulations and don't forget we're going to be needing pictures of that tractor when it gets in. Maybe a couple extra of the air ride seat.

 

[TripleR]

Thanks for answering the tractor make question, was just curious is all. Everyone looks at things a bit different and was just interested.

As far as my engineering, I don't have a problem and never have, my units fit. It is Kubota and their vender that have the problems.

As far as lead times, currently running about 10-12 weeks, down from even longer lead times that I had been running the past 5-6 months.

I guess I am a bit behind or confused, are you talking about the whole setup from rear remotes or just top and side link. I remember when you use to recommend OEM especially in a cab for proper fitment.

 

[MtnViewRanch]

I guess I am a bit behind or confused, are you talking about the whole setup from rear remotes or just top and side link. I remember when you use to recommend OEM especially in a cab for proper fitment.

Just the top & tilt cylinders. Still recommend OEM valves for cab tractors. :thumbsup:

 

[paulfun9]

The Koreans build a solid tractor, but not nearly as nice or premium as Kubota. They were noticably cheaper & it was very tempting, but I decided to stick with Kubota 20 minutes away rather than the only small mom & pop shop in CO selling Korean 2.5 hours away.

Not what I found when I last shopped. I was much more impressed with the Korean brands overall. So much so that I purchased one for myself and have been very pleased with it ever since.

 

[PSDStu]

Sounds like you are getting a great tractor that I am sure you will enjoy!

I just wanted to add a comment on the TNT setup. On my L4060 HSTC which I have had for 3 years I have always had an issue with the Side Link slowly dropping down while say Bushogging causing the Rotary Cutter to tilt and having to be leveled again. It's not a problem with the Side link leaking down, but rather the Kubota Rear Remote valve leaking bye. This may or may not be an issue for you, and I have just gotten use to having to adjust the Rotary Cutter or whatever I am using to account for this.

At one time you could get a Sidelink with a built-in check valve which I think fixed this issue or you could just disconnect the hoses from the Rear remote and the Side link stayed where it was set.

Again.... you maybe fine and all will work great, but just be aware that you might have some Side link issues to think about.

Good Luck with your purchase!

 

[LD1]

A side link or toplink drifting us usually a spool valve issue. Spool valves by nature have internal leakage, as there are no seals. Rather a real tight tolerance metal on metal between the spool and body.

Some valves are better than others.

Disconnecting hoses does isolate the valve. But can sometimes be a pain to re-hook if left under pressure.

Piloted checks in the cylinders work too, but then you cannot use a float feature if equipped.

What I did on mine, was install flow controls on the remotes. I can shut them completely off, then they work the same as a dpcv would. Or I can open them and still be able to use float

 

[TripleR]

Just the top & tilt cylinders. Still recommend OEM valves for cab tractors. :thumbsup:

OK, and I agree, the hydraulic top link I bought from your for our M8540 is top quality and match or exceed the OEM on my 5740. Any future hydraulics I get will not be OEM.

 

[MtnViewRanch]

OK, and I agree, the hydraulic top link I bought from your for our M8540 is top quality and match or exceed the OEM on my 5740. Any future hydraulics I get will not be OEM.

Thanks Larry. :thumbsup:

 

[MtnViewRanch]

Sounds like you are getting a great tractor that I am sure you will enjoy!

I just wanted to add a comment on the TNT setup. On my L4060 HSTC which I have had for 3 years I have always had an issue with the Side Link slowly dropping down while say Bushogging causing the Rotary Cutter to tilt and having to be leveled again. It's not a problem with the Side link leaking down, but rather the Kubota Rear Remote valve leaking bye. This may or may not be an issue for you, and I have just gotten use to having to adjust the Rotary Cutter or whatever I am using to account for this.

At one time you could get a Sidelink with a built-in check valve which I think fixed this issue or you could just disconnect the hoses from the Rear remote and the Side link stayed where it was set.

Again.... you maybe fine and all will work great, but just be aware that you might have some Side link issues to think about.

Good Luck with your purchase!

This has become a common problem for Kubota's valves used for the rear remotes. Not sure if it has always been that way and people are just becoming more aware, or if they have changed something with the valves themselves, but it is a real concern. I know that I have Kubota dealers begging me to come up with a real time solution, because Kubota is not addressing the problem. Or so I am told.

I hope that Kubota takes care of it, because I simply do not have the time to address it.