Tractors and wood! Show your pics

/ Tractors and wood! Show your pics #3,901  
I would definitely not take my loader or bucket off. Dragging the logs to me sounds like the safest option. If you insist on using the trailer I would mount a ball and receiver on the top of your front and loader and I would let the trailer back down the hill while you're driving forward.

You should be able to drop the Bucket if things start to get away from you. I would also keep some type of box blade or straight blade on the back of your tractor if you have it available for extra weight and you could also lower it if things start to get away from you. But again dragging logs one at a the time slowly down the hill sounds safer to me.

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This sounds like a pretty good idea to me. Hitch mounted to the bucket. Tilt the bucket down a little. If you start to slide drop the bucket. Also, if doing it this way, have plenty of weight on the rear.
 
/ Tractors and wood! Show your pics #3,902  
Thanks for the replies and insights...
It was never my intention to remove the FEL...I always fill the bucket with something for forward ballast/traction when moving heavy loads via the 3ph...regardless...

I considered using a blower to remove the leaves from the road but I've decided to heed the advice to just drag the logs down the hill...will try to get some pictures...keep forgetting to take a camera up on the hill...
 
/ Tractors and wood! Show your pics #3,903  
Good call. Still be careful and remember to use four-wheel-drive and keep weight as low as possible at all times.
 
/ Tractors and wood! Show your pics #3,904  
collecting fire wood in the forest with my valtra a93 and igland 4001 winch

 
/ Tractors and wood! Show your pics #3,906  
/Pine - If you really mean 35% = 19˚ (and you weren't talking about 35˚) that's not exactly ideal, but certainly do-able with care. I would not back down something like that. Steering is different when backing, and my reflexes just aren't as quick in that direction. In good conditions, I'd just put my rounds in a trailer and drive down. My trailer is usually hooked to the logging winch, which I can drop to create some drag if needed, or I can lower the bucket on the FEL in an emergency. If conditions were less than good, I'd put on my v-bar tire chains. If it was too slippery for that, I probably wouldn't be driving on it, but would consider dragging the logs in a pinch. As mentioned earlier, I tend to avoid dragging when possible, especially going straight down a steep trail. That's a recipe for erosion problems around here, especially with some of the gully-washing storms we've had in recent years.

If you want to know the exact slope, there are some great smartphone apps. I use Theodolite and Clinometer. I got them for when I was working with a solar installer, since they were useful to determine the pitch of a roof, but I've been using them a lot when laying out trails through my woods. When I can, I try to lay trails out at 7% or less, since that lets me use broad-based dips as erosion control measures (which are easy to drive through), rather than putting in waterbars. I'm in the process of clearing a new trail to bypass one that was too steep on some group-owned land that I'm a part of. We used a dedicated clinometer as well as the clinometer app on my phone to lay it out. The new trail should minimize erosion, and thus the need to go back in and touch up the trail so often. (It's also more of a please to hike or ski.)
 
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/ Tractors and wood! Show your pics #3,907  
It was ANOTHER nice sunny day here today, and my helper came over to help me cut some firewood.

We have been cutting our way to a BIG "blown over" oak, and here it is,

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First thing I did, was cut the BIG limbs off with my Jonsered 2260, then I skidded them out and piled them, to be cut into firewood lengths, at a later time. Anyway, here's what we cut off the limbs, before skidding them away,

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AND, this is what's left of the tree now, we will also get to "it" another day too!

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Did I mention that I LOVE my Jonsered 2260, lol

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That's it for today!!

SR
 
/ Tractors and wood! Show your pics #3,908  
Noodles!
 
/ Tractors and wood! Show your pics #3,910  
How's the 3. Pt winch? Thought about getting a uniforest 35 for 28 hp just mahindra
 
/ Tractors and wood! Show your pics #3,911  
My winch has been VERY good, it's a Wallenstein FX90,

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Figure out what you expect out of a winch, and look at those brands that offer it. I wanted a good hitch, adjustable is a big plus, as I pull different trailers and wagons to the field. Also I wanted chainsaw loops and a good place to put skidding chains, a ratchet brake, protective screen ect...

Don't buy on price alone...

SR
 
/ Tractors and wood! Show your pics #3,912  
I'm trying to imagine what it could pull. I think it's somewhere around the 7700 lb mark it would be handy on the logging roads around here. Just park on the logging roads and winch all the young birch up to the road that has grown the past 25 years . I imagine it could be rough on a little tractor if your not careful. How do you protect your tractor from sticks etc?
 
/ Tractors and wood! Show your pics #3,913  
How's the 3. Pt winch? Thought about getting a uniforest 35 for 28 hp just mahindra

I have a Uniforest 35E winch on my 33HP New Holland TC33D. It's a good match for the tractor. They have made severa improvements since I bought mine, so the current 35M is a significantly more reliable winch.

Your Mahindra 2816 is about the same weight as my TC33D, but you can lift significantly more on the 3Pt hitch than I can. Size-wise, it's a good match. You have slightly less HP than me, but HP is never the limiting factor when I've been winching.

I'm happy with mine, and it has held up well. The only problem has been occasional issues with the linkage that activates and releases the brake. the occasional shot of FluidFilm or similar lubricant has taken care of it. This is one of the areas they made improvements when they went from the 35E to the 35M model.

As much as I like my winch, I might go for the Farmi 351 (almost identical specs) if I had it to do over. There are a few design features I like better on the Farmi, but there was also a significant price differential (at least when I bought mine - no idea what the pricing is now). The differences have not been an issue now, and the changes Uniforest has made have erased some of them.

The Uniforest 35E comes standard with 230' (70 meters) of cable. Most other winches come with 165' (50 meters). Up until recently, I rarely used more than about 150', but I just spent the last couple of days using all the available cable on my winch, and occasionally adding a 30' chain to extend the reach a bit. That kind of length is not something that is very practical when winching alone, especially in my hilly terrain and since I was winching around a corner with a self-releasing snatch block, but it did come in handy this time (and I had a helper who was acting as a spotter).
 
/ Tractors and wood! Show your pics #3,914  
I have a Uniforest 35E winch on my 33HP New Holland TC33D. It's a good match for the tractor. They have made severa improvements since I bought mine, so the current 35M is a significantly more reliable winch.

Your Mahindra 2816 is about the same weight as my TC33D, but you can lift significantly more on the 3Pt hitch than I can. Size-wise, it's a good match. You have slightly less HP than me, but HP is never the limiting factor when I've been winching.

I'm happy with mine, and it has held up well. The only problem has been occasional issues with the linkage that activates and releases the brake. the occasional shot of FluidFilm or similar lubricant has taken care of it. This is one of the areas they made improvements when they went from the 35E to the 35M model.

As much as I like my winch, I might go for the Farmi 351 (almost identical specs) if I had it to do over. There are a few design features I like better on the Farmi, but there was also a significant price differential (at least when I bought mine - no idea what the pricing is now). The differences have not been an issue now, and the changes Uniforest has made have erased some of them.

The Uniforest 35E comes standard with 230' (70 meters) of cable. Most other winches come with 165' (50 meters). Up until recently, I rarely used more than about 150', but I just spent the last couple of days using all the available cable on my winch, and occasionally adding a 30' chain to extend the reach a bit. That kind of length is not something that is very practical when winching alone, especially in my hilly terrain and since I was winching around a corner with a self-releasing snatch block, but it did come in handy this time (and I had a helper who was acting as a spotter).

Thanks for the info. I know dan in remsen NY. He sells them. They sure look nice.
 
/ Tractors and wood! Show your pics #3,915  
Here are some pictures from last week.




 
/ Tractors and wood! Show your pics #3,916  
Thanks for the info. I know dan in remsen NY. He sells them. They sure look nice.

One thing to note is that when some winch manufacturers (they might all be this way now) list the pull rating, that number is for the line pull at the first wrap on the drum.

The reason I mention this is because if you only need say 80' of cable (just an example) but you've got 200', the extra cable is only hindering your pulling capacity.

Of course, you can always make it shorter, but there's no way to put 230' of cable on a machine that is only supposed to have 165'. :)
 
/ Tractors and wood! Show your pics #3,919  
One thing to note is that when some winch manufacturers (they might all be this way now) list the pull rating, that number is for the line pull at the first wrap on the drum.

The reason I mention this is because if you only need say 80' of cable (just an example) but you've got 200', the extra cable is only hindering your pulling capacity.

Of course, you can always make it shorter, but there's no way to put 230' of cable on a machine that is only supposed to have 165'. :)
My winch will hold more than 165', but I don't put more on it, for the very reason you mentioned above!

I'd rather carry a coil of cable to add to the end if I was after a log over 165' away, there's been only one time I ran out of cable and I just backed the tractor up 10 more feet.

IF I ran into THAT problem all the time, I'd buy a big azzed winch in the first place, to get the extra NEEDED pulling power, to make up for the drum filling up with cable.

SR
 
/ Tractors and wood! Show your pics #3,920  
One thing to note is that when some winch manufacturers (they might all be this way now) list the pull rating, that number is for the line pull at the first wrap on the drum.

The reason I mention this is because if you only need say 80' of cable (just an example) but you've got 200', the extra cable is only hindering your pulling capacity.

Of course, you can always make it shorter, but there's no way to put 230' of cable on a machine that is only supposed to have 165'. :)
All winches are rated on the first wrap.
 

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