Pickup Owners: Do you buckle up?

[k0ua]

I noticed in one of the car crash scenes, one lady was wearing her belt but her fellow passenger was not. The unbelted passenger became a flying missile that hit the other belted in lady. So she was not only a danger to herself but to her fellow passengers.

 

[Btown]

Revenue enforcement is nothing new. FDOT practices it regularly. Seems safety is a welcome byproduct, but definately not the primary goal.

Here in Massachusetts fines are spent on road repair work for town and state roads. Well that's how it's supposed to be spent. Some of those crashes appear to be low speed and people fly around the vehicle. I could have posted some with people flying 20-30 feet in the air. Seem bus drivers go through the windshield pretty easy.

 

[dragoneggs]

Watch this.

NO SEAT BELT CAR CRASH COMPILATION - YouTube

I didn't enjoy watching this video. I alway buckle up now but not when I was young. Only time I don't is in a taxi or uber. Think I should begin that habit too. Unless I was the lady at the end of the video that had her own built in air bags... now that wasn't nice. :ashamed:

 

[Buggs67]

I noticed in one of the car crash scenes, one lady was wearing her belt but her fellow passenger was not. The unbelted passenger became a flying missile that hit the other belted in lady. So she was not only a danger to herself but to her fellow passengers.

This is a major factor in buckling up in the rear. A 200 lb missile from the backseat hurtling into the rear of the front seat will injure the front seat passenger.

And to address another person's post, it's interesting how many people don't use belts in taxis, limos, etc. When I drove an airport limo I asked my passengers to buckle up.

And when I wrote tickets it wasn't for revenue production. It was for safety and enforcing the law. I gave as many warnings as tickets. I would stop people for taillights out just to advise them. No ticket.

 

[Billrog]

17 years ago my son drove a pick-up off the rd. at 100+ miles ph into the side of a driveway that was crossing the ditch. He went through the windshield ended up with a broken neck & his back in 3 places. The passenger with him wearing his seat belt received a black eye and no other injury's. Unfortunately the passenger 6 wks. later driving a pick-up alone at the time driving 15 miles ph not wearing his seat belt was killed when he got tossed out when leaving the rd. they think he had fallen asleep.

 

[RalphVa]

I don't get this thread. It's like "Do you play Russian roulette?"

Not wearing your seat belt is the same thing.

Ralph

 

[Soundguy]

This is a major factor in buckling up in the rear. A 200 lb missile from the backseat hurtling into the rear of the front seat will injure the front seat passenger.

And to address another person's post, it's interesting how many people don't use belts in taxis, limos, etc. When I drove an airport limo I asked my passengers to buckle up.

And when I wrote tickets it wasn't for revenue production. It was for safety and enforcing the law. I gave as many warnings as tickets. I would stop people for taillights out just to advise them. No ticket.

In many cases, unfortunately, enforcing the law is revenue motivated. Thus enforcing a law that was written primarily as a money generator, equals revenue enforcement.

There is son pretty obscure dot stuff that has no safety basis, its just hoops to jump the designed, somewhere, some way, to trip people and fleece a few bucks.. There might be some incidental positive benefit generated , maybee.. But the dollars are obviously the goal.

 

[bcp]

If you try to beat the train, seat belts probably won't matter one way or another.

Probably farmers or farm workers in this wreck.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...n-slams-truck-killing-3-men-article-1.2636595

Bruce

 

[dragoneggs]

In many cases, unfortunately, enforcing the law is revenue motivated. Thus enforcing a law that was written primarily as a money generator, equals revenue enforcement.

These days, what isn't revenue motivated?

 

[Dr_Zinj]

I survived a fatal car accident when I was 5 without a scratch on me. No seatbelts in the car. The car rolled around me and as I was at the center, I ended up sitting on the ceiling when it came to rest.
My younger sister was thrown from the vehicle and died.
My grandmother was thrown from the vehicle and died.
My great grandmother was pinned under the car and the only thing that kept her alive was she was in a ditch.
My younger brother was pinned under the door
The next vehicle, and every vehicle afterwards my parents ensured had working seatbelts.
I've worn them ever since.
I don't have a problem with other people choosing not to wear them; just as I have no problem with motorcyclists not wearing helmets. I'm a firm believer in the laws of natural selection. And I'm a firm believer in keeping the nanny state government out of the business of trying to keep us safe from ourselves.

 

[Buggs67]

In many cases, unfortunately, enforcing the law is revenue motivated. Thus enforcing a law that was written primarily as a money generator, equals revenue enforcement.

There is son pretty obscure dot stuff that has no safety basis, its just hoops to jump the designed, somewhere, some way, to trip people and fleece a few bucks.. There might be some incidental positive benefit generated , maybee.. But the dollars are obviously the goal.

IDK why they passed the legislation. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and say it was safety.

As far as enforcement I knew of no officer who went out to raise revenue in enforcing the law. You don't like, trust or respect cops, that's OK. Circumvent their supposed goal by obeying the law and deny them their perverse pleasure in collecting revenue. And regardless of you beiefs or feelings, when you call for help, they'll still respond.

 

[Buggs67]

I don't get this thread. It's like "Do you play Russian roulette?"

Not wearing your seat belt is the same thing.

Ralph

I can't play Russian Roulette. I don't own a wheel gun and it just isn't the same with a semi-auto.

 

[k0ua]

I can't play Russian Roulette. I don't own a wheel gun and it just isn't the same with a semi-auto.

yeah, that "one up the pipe" thing kinda cuts down on the odd's doesn't it?

 

[cqaigy2]

I buckle up if im going to go out on the main road. Up to the shop, hop into the pickup and usually don't belt up unless by habit. Tractor i typically do, my ground is not level and pretty rough. I started wearing seat belts after making a high speed turn to the left while driving a car with a bench front seat. My butt slide to the right, off of the seat while i held onto the steering wheel. The slowing down thing came a little later in live. :laughing:

 

[oldpilgrim]

As far as enforcement I knew of no officer who went out to raise revenue in enforcing the law.

many towns have ticketing quotas to be met.

 

[300UGUY]

Natural selection never rests...

Yup, and if they survive, often they end up on state aid. We get to pay for Dawin's failures.

 

[Streetcar]

I can't play Russian Roulette. I don't own a wheel gun and it just isn't the same with a semi-auto.

A few years ago, we had a neighbor whose friends claimed he was playing Russian roulette with semi automatic when he died

 

[Howling]

Seat belts do become a habit. Went to the dump today (transfer station for the PC folk). Found myself buckling up to go from recycling to trash drop off. It is now part of starting the truck.

Heard promo for new car recently aimed at parents with teenagers. The car would not let the radio turn on until the front seat passenger buckled up.

 

[Copperhead]

IDK why they passed the legislation. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and say it was safety.

As far as enforcement I knew of no officer who went out to raise revenue in enforcing the law. You don't like, trust or respect cops, that's OK. Circumvent their supposed goal by obeying the law and deny them their perverse pleasure in collecting revenue. And regardless of you beiefs or feelings, when you call for help, they'll still respond.

Usually too late to be of any use. Like when we almost had a gun battle on my property when coyote hunters were running their dogs thru the property and scaring cattle. Iowa law, I can drop those dogs with impunity if they are "worrying" livestock. Guns were out on both sides, law was called. Showed up 45 minutes later. One deputy in a crowd of 6 with guns out. Yeah, that is real response. If I hadn't had an M-14 with 4 mags ready to go, and the knowledge of a couple of the guys that this was not my first rodeo, not sure that the hunters would have been so contained in their effort to have their way.

It may not be purely for revenue collection that they use seat belt laws to stop motorists. But I do know the they use it as a pretense to go "fishing" for other reasons in the stop.

 

[dragoneggs]

Usually too late to be of any use. Like when we almost had a gun battle on my property when coyote hunters were running their dogs thru the property and scaring cattle. Iowa law, I can drop those dogs with impunity if they are "worrying" livestock. Guns were out on both sides, law was called. Showed up 45 minutes later. One deputy in a crowd of 6 with guns out. Yeah, that is real response. If I hadn't had an M-14 with 4 mags ready to go, and the knowledge of a couple of the guys that this was not my first rodeo, not sure that the hunters would have been so contained in their effort to have their way.

Not a good situation and an understatement on my part. Being prepared is half the battle and the other half is having your wits during.