The day the music died.

[PhysAssist]

Afraid so.

I loved his music.

He got hooked on pain killers and OD'd. Hate it that the media plays him up to our young listeners.

The King (Michael), the Queen (Whitney) and now the Prince (Prince) all died of drug overdose. Then we wonder why our society idolizes drugs so much??

No to mention the REAL KING- Elvis Aaron Presley...

 

[PhysAssist]

Prince was a one off but man he could sing, and for a guy who didn't get serious with a guitar till 05, he became a master. Check out this rendition of "while my guitar genly weeps" purpsedly played off chord. https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=...U7jPitK-5PfpBFHUaxO6cw&bvm=bv.119745492,d.bGs

THIS!!!

 

[quicksandfarmer]

Thru social media it's been discussed. News media made a big deal about him having a flu like illness that required an emergency landing of his plane a few days ago. Actually he OD'd on Percoset (sp?). They landed and gave him a shot to get him going again and he checked himself out and went on his way. Got hooked on pain killers a few years ago from an injury. Went downhill from there. Sad. Very sad. Extremely talented. But let's remember him for his lack of self control, not for his ability to play instruments. The list of junkie musicians is huge. Again, I think that contributes to today's society accepting drug abuse........

You're being awfully harsh. Ulysses Grant drank whiskey by the case. Winston Churchill got through World War II with amphetamines for breakfast and brandy for dinner. Sigmund Freud was overly fond of cocaine. Francis Crick -- discoverer of DNA -- couldn't quite keep away from LSD. Thomas Edison fueled his creativity with a cocktail of Bordeaux and coca leaves. Should these men be remembered for their faults, or for their achievements? Genius is often linked with untamed demons, which goes hand in hand with substance abuse. A lot of people who are geniuses aren't particularly nice to be around either. But it doesn't take away from their genius.

 

[lilranch2001]

Maybe that's why I am not world acclaimed......
I am not doing enough alcohol and drugs

:laughing:

 

[dragoneggs]

You're being awfully harsh. Ulysses Grant drank whiskey by the case. Winston Churchill got through World War II with amphetamines for breakfast and brandy for dinner. Sigmund Freud was overly fond of cocaine. Francis Crick -- discoverer of DNA -- couldn't quite keep away from LSD. Thomas Edison fueled his creativity with a cocktail of Bordeaux and coca leaves. Should these men be remembered for their faults, or for their achievements? Genius is often linked with untamed demons, which goes hand in hand with substance abuse. A lot of people who are geniuses aren't particularly nice to be around either. But it doesn't take away from their genius.

Well put into perspective.

 

[ovrszd]

I'm not being harsh to anyone. I'm concerned about the youth watching this. Idolized. Greatest talent ever. What a fantastic talent.....

Drug addict. Lost control. Killed himself thru his weaknesses.

Is this what you want your kids to honor????

 

[2LaneCruzer]

You're being awfully harsh. Ulysses Grant drank whiskey by the case. Winston Churchill got through World War II with amphetamines for breakfast and brandy for dinner. Sigmund Freud was overly fond of cocaine. Francis Crick -- discoverer of DNA -- couldn't quite keep away from LSD. Thomas Edison fueled his creativity with a cocktail of Bordeaux and coca leaves. Should these men be remembered for their faults, or for their achievements? Genius is often linked with untamed demons, which goes hand in hand with substance abuse. A lot of people who are geniuses aren't particularly nice to be around either. But it doesn't take away from their genius.

Assuming, arguendo, that what you say is true, it is still a commentary on man's weaknesses. Doctors sometimes become addicted to drugs, and as long as they have them readily available and use them wisely, they are able to cope and live otherwise somewhat normal lives. It does not mean that is "OK", or that we all should emulate their behavior. Genius often has its downside, including drugs. I find it hard to criticize the achievements of those you mentioned, but It does not mean that approval of their achievements goes hand in hand with approval of substance abuse.

I personally have little sympathy for "artists" who think that being an artist is a license to do what ever they want. It's a shame, but drugs seem to have a propensity to take our "artists" at an early age. Elvis, Jim Morrison, Mamma Cass, Hank Williams, Jimmy Hendrix, John Belushi, Janis Joplin...and the list goes on.

 

[dragoneggs]

I'm not being harsh to anyone. I'm concerned about the youth watching this. Idolized. Greatest talent ever. What a fantastic talent.....

Drug addict. Lost control. Killed himself thru his weaknesses.

Is this what you want your kids to honor????

Of course not... but recognizing and understanding one's strengths and weaknesses, achievements and failures allows one to put things in perspective. Teaching moment.

Sincerely not picking a fight, but what about NFL football players that continue to play after suffering concussions? They then possibly die earlier than the norm either by 'natural' causes or their own hand. Should the youth then not applaud and idol them for what they did on the field... taking risks, suffering injuries, surgeries, etc. trying to achieve 'greatness' as a team or individual. One can argue they killed themselves early too in their pursuit.

 

[PhysAssist]

You're being awfully harsh. Ulysses Grant drank whiskey by the case. Winston Churchill got through World War II with amphetamines for breakfast and brandy for dinner. Sigmund Freud was overly fond of cocaine. Francis Crick -- discoverer of DNA -- couldn't quite keep away from LSD. Thomas Edison fueled his creativity with a cocktail of Bordeaux and coca leaves. Should these men be remembered for their faults, or for their achievements? Genius is often linked with untamed demons, which goes hand in hand with substance abuse. A lot of people who are geniuses aren't particularly nice to be around either. But it doesn't take away from their genius.

Interestingly, Freud, who used cocaine to treat depression and several other conditions, as well as morphine addiction, and at times "treated" himself with it, stopped using it entirely, well before his death, which occurred by intentional morphine overdose given because of the intractable pain from his inoperable jaw cancer, caused by the cigars he smoked continuously and could not seem to stop, even after his cancer was discovered in its earliest stages as an oral lesion or sore.

 

[PhysAssist]

Of course not... but recognizing and understanding one's strengths and weaknesses, achievements and failures allows one to put things in perspective. Teaching moment.

Sincerely not picking a fight, but what about NFL football players that continue to play after suffering concussions? They then possibly die earlier than the norm either by 'natural' causes or their own hand. Should the youth then not applaud and idol them for what they did on the field... taking risks, suffering injuries, surgeries, etc. trying to achieve 'greatness' as a team or individual. One can argue they killed themselves early too in their pursuit.

Not to mention the use and abuse of both legal and illegal pharmaceuticals to enhance performance, and also for recreational reasons.

And sometimes took other (innocents) with them.

 

[turbo36]

You're being awfully harsh. Ulysses Grant drank whiskey by the case. Winston Churchill got through World War II with amphetamines for breakfast and brandy for dinner. Sigmund Freud was overly fond of cocaine. Francis Crick -- discoverer of DNA -- couldn't quite keep away from LSD. Thomas Edison fueled his creativity with a cocktail of Bordeaux and coca leaves. Should these men be remembered for their faults, or for their achievements? Genius is often linked with untamed demons, which goes hand in hand with substance abuse. A lot of people who are geniuses aren't particularly nice to be around either. But it doesn't take away from their genius.

Exactly. What makes them great is also what kills them. Remember the good and forgive the bad.

 

[ovrszd]

Exactly. What makes them great is also what kills them. Remember the good and forgive the bad.

I can't agree with this at all.

And in regards to educating our younger generation, I can't condone the last comment either. Sorry.

 

[murphy1244]

I can't agree with this at all.

And in regards to educating our younger generation, I can't condone the last comment either. Sorry.

I didn't think we can teach the younger generation anything anymore.

 

[ovrszd]

I didn't think we can teach the younger generation anything anymore.

Our chances are limited for sure!!!

 

[murphy1244]

Our chances are limited for sure!!!

You were right about him and his drugs though. Too many news sources to to call it BS. I just don't put much stock in what I read much anymore.

 

[ovrszd]

You were right about him and his drugs though. Too many news sources to to call it BS. I just don't put much stock in what I read much anymore.

My grandkids told me what had happened to him the first day. Long before the news media reported any indication of it.

That's why it concerns me to idolize. Our youth are more in touch with what's really going on than we are.

We had a serious discussion about this situation and put it in proper perspective.

Forgiving the bad doesn't restore the life destroyed.

 

[turbo36]

I can't agree with this at all.

And in regards to educating our younger generation, I can't condone the last comment either. Sorry.

Are you perfect? I was taught that we are all flawed and to judge is not our concern.

 

[ovrszd]

Are you perfect? I was taught that we are all flawed and to judge is not our concern.

Are we talking about me or an overdosed drug addict?

 

[/pine]

Considering the core demographic of the TBN community...I can't seem to fathom the fact (like in the mass media) that some very talented artist (with a limited fan base) has gotten more bandwidth on TBN than a poetic/musical genius like Merle Haggard has...! go figure...

 

[Tomtint]

Another junkie is dead. The media wants to make him a hero. But he was just a junkie with musical talent.. That's it . I have no tolerance for junkies. Never have never will.