tractor works

banderson0655 · Dec 23, 2015

new to this am a experianced farm tractor mechanic with 25 yrs also work on heavy machinery and lift trucks

DT86 · Dec 23, 2015

Welcome! You'll fit in just fine.

What brands are you most familiar with?

Wagtail · Dec 24, 2015

G'day Mate and welcome to TBN from Downunder.

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travlitt · Dec 24, 2015

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mguitas · Dec 24, 2015

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Creamer · Dec 24, 2015

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Oldpath05 · Dec 24, 2015

banderson0655 said:
new to this am a experianced farm tractor mechanic with 25 yrs also work on heavy machinery and lift trucks

Welcome. Are sure you don't want to have this post deleted, (tractor mechanic) or turn tail and run, you have any idea how many question you could get, oh you do and glad to answer them, awesome.
I'll start, I saw this thread, (tractor works) I don't feel like doing alot of searching, my son says all diesel motors have to have a blower to suck in air so it will run, I don't see a blower on my L3400 tractor, all I see is what looks like an air intake manifold and an exhaust manifold, anyone else can answer if they dare

sea2summit · Dec 24, 2015

Oldpath05 said:
Welcome. Are sure you don't want to have this post deleted, (tractor mechanic) or turn tail and run, you have any idea how many question you could get, oh you do and glad to answer them, awesome.
I'll start, I saw this thread, (tractor works) I don't feel like doing alot of searching, my son says all diesel motors have to have a blower to suck in air so it will run, I don't see a blower on my L3400 tractor, all I see is what looks like an air intake manifold and an exhaust manifold, anyone else can answer if they dare

Your son was talking about real tractors

4570Man · Dec 24, 2015

I am assuming we are talking about a turbo. Most small diesels are naturally aspirated and don't have turbos.

Oldpath05 · Dec 25, 2015

4570Man said:
I am assuming we are talking about a turbo. Most small diesels are naturally aspirated and don't have turbos.

Turbo, maybe that's what my son said, >aspirated<, he diffidently said that, he say's diesel's has to have something to blow air in the motor to run, but still I don't see no turbo on my L3400, so that must mean your right about naturally aspirated, which means a diesel motor sucks in air on the intake stroke.
My son is talking about changing his old straight six gas motor to a diesel motor, to run his shingle mill, if he can find one, the old 261 GMC is getting tired.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpd3ZOoI7kk

Oldpath05 · Dec 25, 2015

sea2summit said:
Your son was talking about real tractors

That brings up an interesting question, but do you dare to answer it, how much horse power does it take to qualify for a (real tractor)?

Me I wouldn't go by HP, I'd go by (how big the front tires are compared to the rear tire's) my L3400 front tires are way to small compared to the rear, I guess the word is (disproportionate), try to spell that word with out spell check.

motownbrowne · Dec 25, 2015

Oldpath05 said:
Turbo, maybe that's what my son said, >aspirated<, he diffidently said that, he say's diesel's has to have something to blow air in the motor to run, but still I don't see no turbo on my L3400, so that must mean your right about naturally aspirated, which means a diesel motor sucks in air on the intake stroke.
My son is talking about changing his old straight six gas motor to a diesel motor, to run his shingle mill, if he can find one, the old 261 GMC is getting tired.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpd3ZOoI7kk

I think he's talking about a 2-stroke diesel.

From Wikipedia:
Intake begins when the piston is near the bottom dead center. Air is admitted to the cylinder through ports in the cylinder wall (there are no intake valves). All two-stroke Diesel engines require artificial aspiration to operate, and will either use a mechanically driven blower or a turbo-compressor to charge the cylinder with air. In the early phase of intake, the air charge is also used to force out any remaining combustion gases from the preceding power stroke, a process referred to as scavenging.
As the piston rises, the intake charge of air is compressed. Near top dead center, fuel is injected, resulting in combustion due to the charge's extremely high pressure and heat created by compression, which drives the piston downward. As the piston moves downward in the cylinder, it will reach a point where the exhaust port is opened to expel the high-pressure combustion gasses. However, most current two-stroke diesel engines use top-mounted poppet valves and uniflow scavenging. Continued downward movement of the piston will expose the air intake ports in the cylinder wall, and the cycle will start again.

A diesel with valves doesn't require a blower or turbo.

sea2summit · Dec 25, 2015

Oldpath05 said:
That brings up an interesting question, but do you dare to answer it, how much horse power does it take to qualify for a (real tractor)? Me I wouldn't go by HP, I'd go by (how big the front tires are compared to the rear tire's) my L3400 front tires are way to small compared to the rear, I guess the word is (disproportionate), try to spell that word with out spell check.

I'll answer right now. A real tractor has a three point hitch, or historical equivalent, and does enough work to get done what you need to get done.

When I had 1.5 acres a BX25 was plenty of tractor, moving up to 6 with a crap ton of stumps and the wife wanting about 2 acres of garden it wasn't a "real" tractor anymore...still around though because the wife likes it:thumbsup:

David Cockey · Dec 25, 2015

EMD 2-stroke diesels have exhaust valves in the head and uses a Rootes blower.

Oldpath05 · Dec 25, 2015

sea2summit said:
I'll answer right now. A real tractor has a three point hitch, or historical equivalent, and does enough work to get done what you need to get done.

When I had 1.5 acres a BX25 was plenty of tractor, moving up to 6 with a crap ton of stumps and the wife wanting about 2 acres of garden it wasn't a "real" tractor anymore...still around though because the wife likes it:thumbsup:

The L3400 must be a real tractor, does what I need it to do, but sometimes not what I want it to do, it's almost like I could use a 50hp tractor at times, but seems so any tractor with a back-hoe would work good removing stumps.

Oldpath05 · Dec 25, 2015

So my L3400 must be a 4 stroke diesel, and a 2 stroke has a blower and that's why that motor is loader.

sea2summit · Dec 25, 2015

Oldpath05 said:
The L3400 must be a real tractor, does what I need it to do, but sometimes not what I want it to do, it's almost like I could use a 50hp tractor at times, but seems so any tractor with a back-hoe would work good removing stumps.

The tipping point for me to get a bigger tractor was stumps. BX would pull four stumps in three hours. MX is averaging seven an hour. Guess it partially depends on how much time you have to dedicate to what you need to get done. Man, real tractors are too much like calculus:shocked:

Oldpath05 · Dec 25, 2015

sea2summit said:
The tipping point for me to get a bigger tractor was stumps. BX would pull four stumps in three hours. MX is averaging seven an hour. Guess it partially depends on how much time you have to dedicate to what you need to get done. Man, real tractors are too much like calculus:shocked:

For me time and $$$$$$$$$$$$ is at a constant disagreement. I gave the MX series an online glance , looks like you picked the right size tractor for doing a lot of stumping and having a couple size tractor's to pick from for doing a job must make thing's nicer.