I-Beam Box Blade

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HenryIV

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Ford 3600
I have an 8" I-beam segment slightly wider than the crown of my rear R1s . I want to weld it into a heavy duty box blade have any of you seen or done this? It will be used for leveling compacted soils for clearings, footings, ect. Pictures are helpful.
 
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???

I dont understand.

Do you have a box blade and you want to make it heavier and stronger by adding the beam?
-or-
Do you want to use the I-beam and build it into a box blade?
 
   / I-Beam Box Blade #3  
I made one out of some scrap I beam, channel,and a large piece of angle.
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  • Thread Starter
#4  
Wow brother! That is one substantial piece of Iron. I will not be grading gravel but more like leveling a surface for a greenhouse, trails in the wood, ect. The sides are not so important to me as are the attachment points. My tractor has draft control so I have some down force in addition to the weight of the beam.

To all who use one: How critical is it to attach an expendable cutting edge, how would you do it and what angle would you use?
 
   / I-Beam Box Blade #5  
Years ago we made a grader using 3/8 X 3 flat we simply bolted onto 6 X 6 wood to make a drag scraper.
We'd drag that behind an old Jeep to maintain 3 miles of dirt road.
We did that for 10 years until the city took over our road.
That old grader still had another 10 years of life in it and that was standard mild steel flat stock.
 
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IF you are just doing dirt, you arent gonna wear the metal away very fast, especially for light homeowner use. Somewhere around 20-25 degrees off vertical. Call it 70* or 110*, just depends on where you reference.

Draft control is not down pressure.
 
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Whats the white piece on top, is that for weight.

Thats for when I used to to push snow in reverse. Essentially gave me a taller blade to push more snow.
 
   / I-Beam Box Blade #9  
Wow brother! That is one substantial piece of Iron. I will not be grading gravel but more like leveling a surface for a greenhouse, trails in the wood, ect. The sides are not so important to me as are the attachment points. My tractor has draft control so I have some down force in addition to the weight of the beam.

To all who use one: How critical is it to attach an expendable cutting edge, how would you do it and what angle would you use?

I just purchased some weld on ears off ebay for attachment points. There are lots of inexpensive options out there. I would not worry about a replaceable cutting edge. I doubt you will ever wear it out. I used a large piece of angle. I want to say 6x6x3/8. Laid it with the open side facing down and it seems to work good for grading and snow removal. Having an adjustable top link makes a box blade much more useful IMO.

Before I build this I just used a big piece of I beam and drug it around behind the mower.
 
   / I-Beam Box Blade #10  
Wow brother! That is one substantial piece of Iron. I will not be grading gravel but more like leveling a surface for a greenhouse, trails in the wood, ect. The sides are not so important to me as are the attachment points. My tractor has draft control so I have some down force in addition to the weight of the beam.

To all who use one: How critical is it to attach an expendable cutting edge, how would you do it and what angle would you use?

I just purchased some weld on ears off ebay for attachment points. There are lots of inexpensive options out there. I would not worry about a replaceable cutting edge. I doubt you will ever wear it out. I used a large piece of angle. I want to say 6x6x3/8. Laid it with the open side facing down and it seems to work good for grading and snow removal in forward ad reverse. Having an adjustable top link makes a box blade much more useful IMO.

Before I build this I just used a big piece of I beam and drug it around behind the mower.
 
   / I-Beam Box Blade #11  
Wow brother! That is one substantial piece of Iron. I will not be grading gravel but more like leveling a surface for a greenhouse, trails in the wood, ect. The sides are not so important to me as are the attachment points. My tractor has draft control so I have some down force in addition to the weight of the beam.

To all who use one: How critical is it to attach an expendable cutting edge, how would you do it and what angle would you use?

Ford's Draft Control doesn't put downforce on your 3pt. It only controls a specific height, the best it can. It requires the attachment to "bury" itself and then it keeps it from doing so beyond the tractor's capability to pull said attachment.

Actually, I know of no tractor that has 3pt which applies downforce?? Maybe someone can enlighten me. :)
 
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Some older tractors have down force. Some also that started life as a fast hitch and got converted. On those there is a selector on the valve to choose SA or DA mode. Aalso a pin that can be pulled to allow gravity down only. Those are a must for non ground engaging stuff like a bushhog.

Belarus tractors I believe also have down pressure as well as some modern larger tractors.

While it's rare, down pressure 3ph tractors do exist
 
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Some older tractors have down force. Some also that started life as a fast hitch and got converted. On those there is a selector on the valve to choose SA or DA mode. Aalso a pin that can be pulled to allow gravity down only. Those are a must for non ground engaging stuff like a bushhog.

Belarus tractors I believe also have down pressure as well as some modern larger tractors.

While it's rare, down pressure 3ph tractors do exist

Good stuff. I've never saw or heard of one. Thanks for the education LD1. :)
 
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Good stuff. I've never saw or heard of one. Thanks for the education LD1. :)

I'm with Richard. I knew that some old Internationals had down pressure, but nothing else about them. And I thought that only "yellow" and "power tan" tractors had it now. I love me some edumacation in the morning! :thumbsup:
 
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Ford's Draft Control doesn't put downforce on your 3pt. It only controls a specific height, the best it can. It requires the attachment to "bury" itself and then it keeps it from doing so beyond the tractor's capability to pull said attachment.

Actually, I know of no tractor that has 3pt which applies downforce?? Maybe someone can enlighten me. :)
There are a few out there. My JCB has down force.
 
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There are a few out there. My JCB has down force.

Yeah, it seems there are commercial or construction types that have it. Would be cool to have the choice built into a tractor wouldn't it!!!
 
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#17  
Forget I ever said anything about draft control.

Thanks for not hijacking the thread so useful info about box blade fabrication can commence.

A tractor.
A welding rig.
A dream of a box blade yet to be fabricated.
A can of Ford blue paint maybe used to paint a box blade yet to be fabricated.
 
   / I-Beam Box Blade #18  
Forget I ever said anything about draft control.

Thanks for not hijacking the thread so useful info about box blade fabrication can commence.

A tractor.
A welding rig.
A dream of a box blade yet to be fabricated.
A can of Ford blue paint maybe used to paint a box blade yet to be fabricated.

Very well edited! :laughing:
 
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Sorry for the Hi-Jack HenryIV, we got sidetracked visiting while waiting for you to get the Welder set up. :D
 

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