Had to Beef-Up my TSC CarryAll Frame

[Gordon Gould]

I guess I went over one to many bumps carrying 1/3 cord loads like this and bent the angle at a lift pin.



For a $119 carry all frame the you can't beat the TSC unit. It will take the weight on smooth going but bumps are a killer. We had a rainy day last week so I straightened the angle and made a couple gusset plates (??).



Yesterday I welded them on the CarryAll.





I think I made the lift pins a lot stronger so I wonder where the weak point is now

gg

 

[rocketfish]

Thumbs up Gordon! Looks good!

 

[jeff9366]

I like it. No whining about how flimsy it was built. No telling how many "G's" were applied going over bumps.

Why not a FULL LOAD in the bucket?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Now better than new.

 

[Gunny]

Good looking welding job

 

[Ken45101]

I think I made the lift pins a lot stronger so I wonder where the weak point is now

gg

I think the weak point is that the lift pins are on angle iron. Square or rectangular tube would be a lot stronger.

Not saying you didn't do a good job, just answering your question as to where the weak point is.

 

[Gordon Gould]

I think the weak point is that the lift pins are on angle iron. Square or rectangular tube would be a lot stronger.

Not saying you didn't do a good job, just answering your question as to where the weak point is.

Maybe you are right - but is it really still like angle with those gussets ??

 

[Mysfyt]

Nice job! To answer your weak point question, it will be where the welds meet the angle, AKA stress risers. Just keep an eye on them for cracking.

 

[Gordon Gould]

Thanks guys for the knowledgeable input. I am just trying to understand if what I did was a reasonable way to add strength to the simple pin arrangement w/o making them any wider apart.

 

[k0ua]

Hi Gordon, I think you have made it considerably stronger. Let us know how it works out long term.

 

[Ken45101]

Maybe you are right - but is it really still like angle with those gussets ??

You definitely improved it and strengthened it with the gussets. But I think the whole angle iron upright is the next weak point that will twist. It may be perfectly adequate as you have fixed it but you asked for the next weak point and that's where I think it is. Note, heavier duty equipment usually uses a through pin between two supports instead of an unsupported lift pin.

No matter how much you beef something up, there will always be a "next weak point"

 

[LD1]

Yep, I think the next weak point would be twisting the whole piece of angle iron instead of just the flange around where the pin is attached.

IT may hold up just fine for the load you lift though. Could handle another 100#, or another 1000#, just dont know. It seems you have some fine fab skills, so if it needs repaired again, I am confident you can handle it just fine.

 

[Ken45101]

Thanks guys for the knowledgeable input. I am just trying to understand if what I did was a reasonable way to add strength to the simple pin arrangement w/o making them any wider apart.

definitely reasonable and a nice welding job. When mine failed years ago, before I learned to weld, I just added a second, heavier piece of angle iron bolted on inside of the existing angle. That helped but I haven't used it or trusted it much since then. I should have learned to weld a long time ago, it's a great skill on the farm as I'm sure most of you know.

 

[Mysfyt]

definitely reasonable and a nice welding job. When mine failed years ago, before I learned to weld, I just added a second, heavier piece of angle iron bolted on inside of the existing angle. That helped but I haven't used it or trusted it much since then. I should have learned to weld a long time ago, it's a great skill on the farm as I'm sure most of you know.

It's never too late to learn. I'm not going to say I'm up on the latest technology because I am not. But I do know from the trade mags and the trade shows that I've been to, welding is getting easier to learn by the day! Mostly in the MIG process I might add. A lot of equipment choices to fit your budget and a lot of help via the Internet.