l45 TLB 4n1, thumb tulsa

[kcender]

Re: L39 & L45 needs

You can always use more HP, but I think it has sufficient HP for what it is made to do.

Makes me wonder just how much power it takes to make a person feel there is lots,not just sufficient.At one point I had an L3240 with FEL,BH,and loaded tires that I eventually sold mainly because I felt it was underpowered for the weight.It was about the same weight as the L45 is and I was hoping the extra HP would be noticeable on this machine.Seems there is never enough,at least on the smaller Kubota machines.

 

[KubotaToy]

Re: L39 & L45 needs

Makes me wonder just how much power it takes to make a person feel there is lots,not just sufficient.At one point I had an L3240 with FEL,BH,and loaded tires that I eventually sold mainly because I felt it was underpowered for the weight.It was about the same weight as the L45 is and I was hoping the extra HP would be noticeable on this machine.Seems there is never enough,at least on the smaller Kubota machines.

Tthe only time I thought is was under-powered is using the PTO with a commercial 8" chipper attached (it has about 10 hp less at the PTO).

 

[mike69440]

Re: L39 & L45 needs

Do you feel the L45 is underpowered?I ask because I am thinking of buying one,I have another thread on here about it.

"You can always use more HP, but I think it has sufficient HP for what it is made to do"

Yeah its underpowered and a lot, lot of money. I have a L39, with less power than the L45, but that hydro hurts you some in efficiency.
I posted specs in the Pricing section.
I've got 1000Lbs of needed ballast on my L39.

Another 10-12 hp sure would be nice snow plowing and going up grades. (A Cab, even a soft Cab is on my wish list)

You are not going to find much else in a small package as good a Swiss army knife as the pricey L39/L45.

If I wanted more it would be a full size machine, not the M59 as it is stupid money also.

 

[kcender]

Re: L39 & L45 needs

"You can always use more HP, but I think it has sufficient HP for what it is made to do"

Yeah its underpowered and a lot, lot of money. I have a L39, with less power than the L45, but that hydro hurts you some in efficiency.
I posted specs in the Pricing section.
I've got 1000Lbs of needed ballast on my L39.

Another 10-12 hp sure would be nice snow plowing and going up grades. (A Cab, even a soft Cab is on my wish list)

You are not going to find much else in a small package as good a Swiss army knife as the pricey L39/L45.

If I wanted more it would be a full size machine, not the M59 as it is stupid money also.

Not real encouraging.

 

[mike69440]

Re: L39 & L45 needs

Not real encouraging.

You are not going to find much else in a small package as good a Swiss army knife as the pricey L39/L45

Please do not think I'm bashing these machines as I'm not, except that they sure are pricey.

Had I have bought an Ag tractor, I'd be on my second machine by now, as I work my L39 really hard.

An Ag tractor would be really messed up doing what I do with the little L39. Good Loader, great hoe for its size.

You could look around for a low hour good condition private sale, I'd expand my search across North America, and pay the shipping.

Or consider a good used CASE, etc. machine.

 

[KubotaToy]

Re: L39 & L45 needs

You are not going to find much else in a small package as good a Swiss army knife as the pricey L39/L45.

You could look around for a low hour good condition private sale, I'd expand my search across North America, and pay the shipping.

Or consider a good used CASE, etc. machine.

I agree but if consider the only comparable is the JD110 which was real pricey also, the L45 did not look so bad and it is the perfect size for just having fun and some hard work. I owned a JD410D for a several years, it was twice as capable as the L45 at twice the size, hp and the cost. I sold the 410 and was able to get a new L45 and a Cat 933 track loader for any heavy stuff.

Bottom line, you should always get what you need or want and sometimes they are the same thing. Funny, no matter how I explained it to my wife I never could get to understand why I needed that Cat 450F backhoe. But, if anybody needs a TLB with more hp than the L45 they are available, just go to any equipment dealer.

BTW-I am off to see the Kubota dealer to see if I can get a bigger Swiss army knife this weekend. I want more hp.

 

[mike69440]

Re: L39 & L45 needs

I agree but if consider the only comparable is the JD110 which was real pricey also, the L45 did not look so bad and it is the perfect size for just having fun and some hard work. I owned a JD410D for a several years, it was twice as capable as the L45 at twice the size, hp and the cost. I sold the 410 and was able to get a new L45 and a Cat 933 track loader for any heavy stuff.

Bottom line, you should always get what you need or want and sometimes they are the same thing. Funny, no matter how I explained it to my wife I never could get to understand why I needed that Cat 450F backhoe. But, if anybody needs a TLB with more hp than the L45 they are available, just go to any equipment dealer.

With the demise of the JD110, the L39/L45 are the only compacts with real guts for dirt work around.
BTW-I am off to see the Kubota dealer to see if I can get a bigger Swiss army knife this weekend. I want more hp.

Bigger Swiss Army Knife, that M59 is real close to a lightweight Full Size TLB?
I just checked the hydraulic pressure on this Mahindra Max28 I just bought. It was a quick test and I did not get the oil up to 50 C like the test in the service manual said, so if anything my readings should have been higher, not lower. The darn thing read only 75 Psig under the minumum of 2060 psig/146 psig under the maximum. That's not enought to effect performance that much. I was expecting to see several hundred PSI low as it seems so weak.

The MAX28XL is touted as having a real strong loader, (1402 Lbs at the pins, but no way it is 1/2 the TL1000 Loader on the L39.). The lift cylinder bores are only 45mm on the lift and a tiny 35mm on the bucket curl.
So am I spoiled.? Even the L39 seem just about right, not Super Tractor. Having an Excvator as must alter my perception, but it is no stronger than a full size TLB.
I was hoping the MAx28XL could do some light loader work in areas i don't want to mess up with a heavier machine. As I have not worked the Max, maybe I need to give it a chance.

PS, HP wise, the max seems real peepy, but some of that will go away once I add some ballast.

 

[DavesTractor]

Re: L39 & L45 needs

I just checked the hydraulic pressure on this Mahindra Max28 I just bought. It was a quick test and I did not get the oil up to 50 C like the test in the service manual said, so if anything my readings should have been higher, not lower. The darn thing read only 75 Psig under the minumum of 2060 psig/146 psig under the maximum. That's not enought to effect performance that much. I was expecting to see several hundred PSI low as it seems so weak.

Mike, the strength and capacity of the Max26/28 falls off fast if the pressure is much at all low. Shim the main relief (or have your dealer do it) and get it fully up to pressure hot, and the lift should be impressive. If not, you have leakage in the valve or a cylinder. Stay with it until it lifts to specs. I had a low performer like yours we worked on last week. Now it lifts 1402 lbs at the pins at idle. And in low range pushing against a pile of dirt, it will spin the front and back tires at least in dry dirt. And this one had Rim Guard in the tires and a 60" box. It is an awesome tractor. If yours is not, have them fix it for sure. PS, I like the L39, they are nice. You have good toys.

 

[mike69440]

Re: L39 & L45 needs

Mike, the strength and capacity of the Max26/28 falls off fast if the pressure is much at all low. Shim the main relief (or have your dealer do it) and get it fully up to pressure hot, and the lift should be impressive. If not, you have leakage in the valve or a cylinder. Stay with it until it lifts to specs. I had a low performer like yours we worked on last week. Now it lifts 1402 lbs at the pins at idle. And in low range pushing against a pile of dirt, it will spin the front and back tires at least in dry dirt. And this one had Rim Guard in the tires and a 60" box. It is an awesome tractor. If yours is not, have them fix it for sure. PS, I like the L39, they are nice. You have good toys.

Thank Dave

I doubt I have any leakage, as the bucket will stay in the air for a week and barely sag an inch or two. I suprised you say being off a 100 psi or so makes that much diffeerence.

 

[rScotty]

Re: L39 & L45 needs

Bigger Swiss Army Knife, that M59 is real close to a lightweight Full Size TLB?

Good Question! I can help with my own opinion because wehave both an M59 with a thumb and a full size late model Full Size TLB - a JD310SG with extendahoe. Both machines are on similar tires and have 4WD. The JD has twice the weight and 50% more HP than the M59. The JD has front weights. The M59 doesn't have extra weights, but frankly could use more weight to keep the over-powerful back hoe from throwing it around so much.

Frankly, which one we use depends on the work. Either will do for power. The M59 is much more accurate, and for 90% of the work to do as I said there isn't much to choose between them for power. Both have more than enough to lift and rip most anything. Although ultimately the JD has more, you rarely use it. The M59 often gets the nod just because it is so handy and able to use its power more delicately. And visibility is much better. The M59 lacks an extendahoe, but has a thumb. The thumb is real handy.

The JD bucket is 1.3 cubic yards and the M59 is 1.0 cubic yards. In use, both carry the same amount because the loader on the M59 is handier and easy to heap. And because on the M59 the loader bucket tilts back more. Full size TLBslike the 310 don't tilt their buckets back so far. Must be some sort of safety thing to prevent backspills. But what it means in use is that the larger bucket on the JD doesn't carry any more material. Maybe not as much.

Both use a two foot wide BH bucket. The JD bucket is a bit deeper, but the M59 is a bit faster.

Now if the comfort of a cab is a factor..... or particularly if the front end loader needs to carry something more than a few hundred feet ....then the JD is definitely the machine of choice. It is much more comfortable. Both machines go about the same speed on the road, but with a full load in the bucket you can feel it on the M59 where on the JD you barely notice the load.

YMMV, good luck rScotty