Comparison John Deere 4052R vs 4066R

ECLC · Feb 19, 2015

I have demoed both tractors.....they appear to be the same frame, cab, motor, pretty much the same tractor all the way around. The 4066R did have a air ride seat, which can be ordered and installed on 4052R.
How are they getting higher HP rating out of the 4066R with the same motor? Do they just have it turned up more?

Theres about a 4500 dollar difference to go up to the 4066R.

I have a New Holland Workmaster 55 now and I just am concerned that the 4052R with 39.9HP at PTO may not be enough.....where the 4066R is rated at 52HP at PTO.

Any thoughts from you guys who maybe own one of these two tractors......just hate to purchase and regret.

Thanks

jenkinsph · Feb 19, 2015

Most of us that were buying a tractor have gone through this in the past. I personally like to have more power available than less. If you are concerned I recommend the 4066R and push for a better discount on the price.

ECLC · Feb 19, 2015

They are at 37,195.00 on the 4066R with a deluxe cab.

jenkinsph · Feb 19, 2015

When I bought the 4520 cab in 2009 with 6 front weights and 6 rear weights, upgraded cruise, rear wiper, hood guard, 2 rear work lights, R4 tires, third rear valve, telescopic links and topntilt it was 34,500. Did not want a fel so I moved the front hydraulic couplers to the rear for a total of three sets.

Prices are up on everything, I suppose if you have a few extras included the price is within range.

DoubleL · Feb 19, 2015

ECLC said:
They are at 37,195.00 on the 4066R with a deluxe cab.

What's the list price on that tractor ? I want to see the discount they are giving you. Got a quote on a 4044R Cab with standard seat and trying to see how competitive/aggressive that is. Thanks !!!

DoubleL · Feb 19, 2015

I think you got something wrong or take this deal right away. The 4066R with a deluxe cab lists for $48,105 so if they quoted $37,195 you are getting a 22.7% discount. JUMP ON IT :thumbsup:

If that is the price on just the tractor without the Cab which lists for $39,030 ... $37,195 is a low discount of 4.7% that is horrible. :thumbdown:

ECLC · Feb 19, 2015

DoubleL said:
I think you got something wrong or take this deal right away. The 4066R with a deluxe cab lists for $48,105 so if they quoted $37,195 you are getting a 22.7% discount. JUMP ON IT :thumbsup:

If that is the price on just the tractor without the Cab which lists for $39,030 ... $37,195 is a low discount of 4.7% that is horrible. :thumbdown:

It's a cab unit. I have quote. It has a lot of discounts due to green fleet member and a few other items. I demo the tractor yesterday that they would sell me. It's 37,195.00 for a cab 4066R with deluxed cab features.

Jd5203 · Feb 19, 2015

I'd take that deal in a heartbeat. That tractor is supposed to be close to $50,000. I wouldn't hesitate at all to grab it and go. And when in doubt, go for more horsepower, you'll never have to much but you'll always find yourself needing more. I myself thought the 5083e was big enough but since Deere came out with the 900 series round baler, I now would need 100PTO horsepower to run it. May just turn up the fuel pump and do some tuning.

DoubleL · Feb 19, 2015

ECLC said:
It's a cab unit. I have quote. It has a lot of discounts due to green fleet member and a few other items. I demo the tractor yesterday that they would sell me. It's 37,195.00 for a cab 4066R with deluxed cab features.

WOW ... buy that tractor and I'll give you $38,000 for it and get a 2nd one for only $36,400 :laughing:

ECLC · Feb 19, 2015

DoubleL said:
WOW ... buy that tractor and I'll give you $38,000 for it and get a 2nd one for only $36,400 :laughing:

This price is before taxes. So after taxes. I'm in upper 39K. Which still sounds not to bad.

They quoted me 32,850 for a 4052R cab unit.

DoubleL · Feb 19, 2015

Taxes ruin everything :banghead:

That's a great price for the 4052R cab too. Wish I had eligibility for GreenFleet discounts.

Good luck with your decision and tractor.

MinnesotaEric · Feb 19, 2015

ECLC said:
They are at 37,195.00 on the 4066R with a deluxe cab.

That is a great price. I was quoted last spring $54K ish for a 4066R HST cab with loader. I ended up getting a Kioti NX6010 instead.

ECLC · Feb 19, 2015

Im having a hard time deciding on which one. They are the same frame, same cab, same everything, motor is same. But is it worth the extra 4K for more horsepower. Seems like all they have done is turned the 4052R computer down.

MinnesotaEric · Feb 19, 2015

ECLC said:
Im having a hard time deciding on which one. They are the same frame, same cab, same everything, motor is same. But is it worth the extra 4K for more horsepower. Seems like all they have done is turned the 4052R computer down.

What do you want to do with it?

ECLC · Feb 19, 2015

Bush hogging lots once a month, and we have some lots that we can install a 84" finish mower to cut with every two weeks. Also we would use it to come behind our skid steers and power rake to install our seeder on .

MinnesotaEric · Feb 19, 2015

ECLC said:
Bush hogging lots once a month, and we have some lots that we can install a 84" finish mower to cut with every two weeks. Also we would use it to come behind our skid steers and power rake to install our seeder on .

For comparison, my 47 PTO hp, 4600 pound tractor (balasted to 7800 pounds) easily runs a Cat 2 Woods BB720, which is a 6' wide, 1200 pound rotary cutter rated to cut through 4" material (which I do).

tractorslinger · Mar 8, 2015

ECLC said:
I have demoed both tractors.....they appear to be the same frame, cab, motor, pretty much the same tractor all the way around. The 4066R did have a air ride seat, which can be ordered and installed on 4052R.
How are they getting higher HP rating out of the 4066R with the same motor? Do they just have it turned up more?

Theres about a 4500 dollar difference to go up to the 4066R.

I have a New Holland Workmaster 55 now and I just am concerned that the 4052R with 39.9HP at PTO may not be enough.....where the 4066R is rated at 52HP at PTO.

Any thoughts from you guys who maybe own one of these two tractors......just hate to purchase and regret.

Thanks

Cant have too much horsepower.

vtsnowedin · Mar 8, 2015

ECLC said:
Im having a hard time deciding on which one. They are the same frame, same cab, same everything, motor is same. But is it worth the extra 4K for more horsepower. Seems like all they have done is turned the 4052R computer down.

As I understand it ,they vary the horse power by changing the turbo charger and the injector settings. This rams more air and fuel into each power stroke. That $4K price sounds about right for each step up on the same block. The 50xx tractors go from 45 to 55 to 65 and 75HP all on the same block. I went with a 5045E because I felt it was both enough and would put the least strain on the bearings so last longer. But I have met very few tractor owners or truck drivers that didn't want more horsepower at their command.

jenkinsph · Mar 12, 2015

I use the auto throttle most of the time on my 4520 cab and would think you will find that to be very convenient to have on the 4066R. Not sure that is available on the 4052. The 4066R should allow you to mow, till or blade a little faster than the 4052R, both can pull with a similar maximum tractive force. The larger issue to me is with the higher hp you can pull the same load about 30% faster. That can make a big difference in larger fields or jobs. Nebraska tests show the prior 4720 66hp model to produce 58 pto hp.