UFO's... What do you think?

[stuckmotor]

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Based on his last name, I might have guessed that John delivered milk, too.

 

[deerseeker001]

these facts you cant dismiss.

If you have any doubts about UFO this should clear thinks up.check this link out..Google-UFO sightings by NASA Astronauts.UFO sightings by NASA Astronauts

 

[ovrszd]

For me the term UFO means exactly what it stands for and has little or nothing to do with aliens. Also has little to do with my belief that the probability of intelligent life on other planets is very high.

I think we clarified all that early on in this discussion. But there are those that thru their own phobias tend to link UFOs with aliens.

I think when a person sees something similar to what's been described in this thread they have to first determine if it's identifiable to them, then contemplate if it was visible due to the involvement of intelligent life. Two separate issues. For me, I've saw hundreds of things I've identified as UFOs. Still contemplating the second part.

 

[Citydude]

these facts you cant dismiss.

I knew it! Santa Is a flipping alien.....the sled thingy and some flying deer, one with a red nose, just didn't seem right to me....we've been duped by the government. Again.

 

[stuckmotor]

I got a kick out of the commercial about something to do with aliens, when a guy came on the screen and said, "I had *** with an illegal alien".

 

[CobyRupert]

What would it take to convince most people?

Was wondering why some people believe and others don't.
Perhaps how accepting or dismissive of extraterrestrial ufo's someone is depends on how authoritarian the person is? Do some people need an official government announcement?
Which government?
Supposedly this is a list of government that have (I haven't checked it out yet):
This lists contains countries that have actually disclosed, those that are in litigation to disclose all or specific files and countries that have released significant aspects of UFO and alien encounters.
1. Argentina
2. Australia
3. Brazil
4. Canada
5. Chile
6. China
7. Denmark
8. Finland
9. France
10. Germany
11. India
12. Ireland
13. Japan
14. Mexico
15. New Zealand (Additional Report)
16. Peru
17. Russia
18. Spain
19. Sweden
20. Ukraine (not in English)
21. United Nations
22. United Kingdom
23. Uruguay
24. Vatican City
List of Countries That Have Disclosed Alien and UFO Documents | <b><i><a href="http://www.educatinghumanity.com">Educating Humanity</a></i></b>

Perhaps it has something to do on whether we trust others or need to see things for ourselves. Whether the testimony of thousands is to be believed? "A lot of people are idiots or liars."
Perhaps its a religious conflict? (-yes you can be agnostic on ufo's too.)

What would it take to convince most people?

 

[riptides]

What would it take to convince most people?

Touch it, feel it, smell it, hear it, see it for themselves.

 

[MossRoad]

I think you are not from this world.

I often wonder.... :cool2:

 

[MossRoad]

Or wander, depending.... :cool2::cool2::cool2:

 

[MossRoad]

For me the term UFO means exactly what it stands for and has little or nothing to do with aliens. Also has little to do with my belief that the probability of intelligent life on other planets is very high.

I think we clarified all that early on in this discussion. But there are those that thru their own phobias tend to link UFOs with aliens.

I think when a person sees something similar to what's been described in this thread they have to first determine if it's identifiable to them, then contemplate if it was visible due to the involvement of intelligent life. Two separate issues. For me, I've saw hundreds of things I've identified as UFOs. Still contemplating the second part.

Yep.
Its unidentified.
Its flying.
And its an object.
Meets the criteria.

Make your own guess as to its origin. :confused3:

 

[MossRoad]

I'm of the thought that while I don't believe intelligent life has visited our planet from some other world, I'm also of the thought that its not impossible, so I'll leave that possibility open. However, until I see if for myself, I'm not taking anyone else's word for it.

I don't doubt that many people have seen many things. Heck, I've seen many things.... sometimes I was even sober when I saw them!

But for the most part, they were very large meteors, very low flying yet very fast airplanes, very large aircraft making slow, long banks at night, which gives a very good "V" pattern that seems to be multiple craft flying in formation, aircraft coming straight at me, some doofus in a crop duster with Christmas lights (that was fun), search lights, military aircraft, etc... nothing that moved me to make mashed potato models of Devil's Tower yet.

 

[davrow]

There seems to be something inherent in our psyche to create things like:
big foot and all of it's similar buddies
leprechauns
fairies (which really took off in early photography and double exposure)
Nessy, Etc.
Dave

Are you including all Dave's in your mythical creatures list? I'm pretty sure I really exist. :laughing: Dave

 

[houstonscott]

these facts you cant dismiss.

I got news for you, they don't understand lights in the sky anymore than anyone else, maybe less. Lights in the sky doesn't mean aliens in space ships. HS

 

[deerseeker001]

never said it did.

I got news for you, they don't understand lights in the sky anymore than anyone else, maybe less. Lights in the sky doesn't mean aliens in space ships. HS

 

[turnkey4099]

Touch it, feel it, smell it, hear it, see it for themselves.

Along with some photographs that can actually be seen to show some details - not photoshopped or staged of course. Over 70 years of reports and not one photo usable for analysis.

Harry K

 

[PapaPerk]

Along with some photographs that can actually be seen to show some details - not photoshopped or staged of course. Over 70 years of reports and not one photo usable for analysis.

Harry K

This is a very good point!

 

[riptides]

Along with some photographs that can actually be seen to show some details - not photoshopped or staged of course. Over 70 years of reports and not one photo usable for analysis.

Harry K

Interesting, but advancements in photography technology have come a long way. Easier today, with a cell phone (except at night LOL) than with a polaroid of say 1960-1970ish.

 

[2LaneCruzer]

I admittedly have not read the complete thread, but I will offer the following: Back in the early 80's, one morning before work (I worked in a research laboratory at the time) I went out to get the paper. There in the Southeastern sky was a huge orb; approximately 4 or 5 times the size of the moon. It was perfectly round, a brushed aluminum color, and it was perfectly still. It was very difficult to judge it's actual size, because I really had no point of reference, but I can testify that it was NOT the moon because it was much too large. I studied it for a moment, and surmised it must be some explainable phenomenon, picked up the paper and went inside.

On my way to work, I noted that it had moved farther away, but had not moved upward, as one would expect the moon to do. I heard later that others had seen it, and the news said that it was a "weather balloon". It was not a weather balloon, I am pretty sure of that. Others I talked to who saw it did not think so either. Hayden Hughes, of UFO fame is an acquaintance of mine; we discussed it, and he told me that I was correct, it was not a weather balloon, and that this "type" of UFO was not uncommon.

I don't know what compelled me to ignore it initially; I wish now that I had taken some pictures. I was a Research Chemist at the time and considered myself a Scientist, and I guess I just assumed it was some natural phenomenon.

 

[BHD]

I have never seen any thing that I would classify as a "UFO", I have seen a lot I could not identify tho.

My daughter was out riding horses one day and a cigar shaped "flying"/"hovering" object was near and above her for a time,

I have a friend who's father told a story of when he was a kid and they are roofing a chicken house and a silver metal looking round disk type thing flew over them and around them for a time, (this would have been in about 1915), he described it to be similar in look to a hog feeder.

 

[ovrszd]

2lanecruzer

Not discrediting your story in any way so please don't take it that way.

40 years ago I saw something similar. I watched it off and on for a couple hours, kept getting smaller with no change in elevation. Finally dawned on me that the kids had a tripod telescope. I got it out and took a close look. It was a weather balloon. With the telescope you could see the dangling mechanism. With the naked eye and the sun reflection it appeared as a perfectly round silver object. Those things are huge!!!!