I need some information on a Third Function Remote

[Retired Iron Peddler]

I had my Kubota dealer install the 3rd function system. They used a WR Long valve - the entire setup - valve, hoses, new joy stick and installation time cost $1195. I use the third function with the grapple I just bought. Looking at the finished setup - I'm glad I had it done by experienced maintenance folks. I understand the basic idea behind the 3rd function but the plumbing, routing, electrical requirements would have been well beyond my skills.

Yes, that's what I did also. I had the 3rd function kit and the installation labor quoted in the tractor price when I recently purchased my L5460HSTC. My dealer installed the Kubota kit at the time they were installing the loader. I purchased my Land Pride grapple separately. The electro-hydraulic valve is operated by a toggle switch in the loader control knob. The hydraulic lines and hoses are inside the loader boom just like the other lines and hoses and looks like a factory installation. Nothing looks add-on or like a "plumber's nightmare". It works as designed.

Bill

 

[Heuserst]

I was told by the dealer that I could not add one to my MX5100. So I have been looking for other suppliers, I found these guys.
3rd,Third Function Hydraulic Valve Kit: Kubota Tractors & Front End Loaders

Does anyone have any experience with them?

 

[BAP]

You can get a diverter valve from baileynet.com for about $95.

http://www.baileynet.com/Stackable-Solenoid-Operated-Circuit-Selector-Valve

It shows lever, but it is solenoid controlled used to switch the flow to two hyd circuits.

Has anybody ordered one of these valves to know for sure that it is a solenoid operated valve?

 

[J_J]

I talked to the parts guy and it is solenoid operated.

Give them call.

Should look something like this.

Flash. Flash

Sorry about that.

I called to verify and they told me wrong.

The one valve I posted is a lever selector valve .

This is supposed to be the correct valve. SKU: #220934 at $110

http://www.baileynet.com/product/9573

I pulled the pic from another web site.

 

[J_J]

I was told by the dealer that I could not add one to my MX5100. So I have been looking for other suppliers, I found these guys.
3rd,Third Function Hydraulic Valve Kit: Kubota Tractors & Front End Loaders

Does anyone have any experience with them?

Do you want a 3rd function valve or a diverter selector valve?

The 3rd valve will only provide full force, and is installed in series with the flow. Could be installed anywhere you have space for it.

The selector valve will let you use the curl function or the FEL to control the grapple and the ability to feather the hyds.

 

[k0ua]

I talked to the parts guy and it is solenoid operated.

Give them call.

Should look something like this.

Flash. Flash

Sorry about that.

I called to verify and they told me wrong.

The one valve I posted is a lever selector valve .

This is supposed to be the correct valve. SKU: #220934 at $110

http://www.baileynet.com/product/9573

I pulled the pic from another web site.

that is a pretty good price on that Fasse valve.

 

[BAP]

I am looking to mount a Fisher snow plow on my loader and want to be able to angle it and run all the loader functions when needed.

 

[JRL305]

Ahhh... so the third function valve is either all on or all off. correct? I'm planning a grapple addition so I guess the diverter valve will be the way to go.

 

[J_J]

Yes. that is correct, however you could add an adjustable needle valve and tailor the flow to your needs.

Your engine rpm will also dictate how much flow the hyd has. Half speed, half flow, and so on.

The diverter is less expensive.

 

[JRL305]

Thanks JJ. It seems that both ways have their drawbacks. The diverter draws from one of the function ports of the loader valve, temporarily disabling it. The third function valve is either all on or all off but I would still have full use of the loader controls. I guess i'm leaning more toward the seperate valve. It seems that if I buy the package from EA, they offer a little off. I'm still doing the numbers and trying to pick out which grapple I really want.

 

[hobonc]

Thanks JJ. It seems that both ways have their drawbacks. The diverter draws from one of the function ports of the loader valve, temporarily disabling it. The third function valve is either all on or all off but I would still have full use of the loader controls. I guess i'm leaning more toward the seperate valve. It seems that if I buy the package from EA, they offer a little off. I'm still doing the numbers and trying to pick out which grapple I really want.

You will learn to tip toe around the 3rd function operation it will become natural to you nuttin to it... Dunno what Grapple you are looking at but I would get one with two hydraulic cylinders and two arms... I got a 60" Grapple and would not want one bigger it lets me get into some tight places..

I got a WR long 3rd function kit ($800 dealer installed) nuttin to installing it a boy scout can do it... If you Google 3rd function you can also find you can get the 3rd function valve and roll your own from hydraulic surplus center for about haft a WR long kit.... I have already had a hose leak the dealer warranty it

 

[JRL305]

Thanks everyone. I'm going with the WR Long OBG2-48 grapple and the EA third function setup. Theirs has the hoses all the way to the loader. I need something small because of the layout of our property. We have too many trees that my 60" bucket will not go between. Also, the B3200 is not a big, powerful tractor and I think I'll get better use of a lighter package. I'll report in after I get the stuff installed and tested.
John
KD4FTA

 

[jmc]

Thanks everyone. I'm going with the WR Long OBG2-48 grapple and the EA third function setup. Theirs has the hoses all the way to the loader. I need something small because of the layout of our property. We have too many trees that my 60" bucket will not go between. Also, the B3200 is not a big, powerful tractor and I think I'll get better use of a lighter package. I'll report in after I get the stuff installed and tested.
John
KD4FTA

That's going to be a really nice setup for you. I don't think you will ever miss not having a wider grapple.

 

[David_Kb7uns]

If you put a restricting orifice on each cylinder after it tees off it will keep the grapple sides synchronized and the back pressure created will also make the curl function work with reduced force if you are using a WR Long third function valve. You will be able curl and clamp and then you can release grapple control switch and roll back the grapple with load and lift with full force. It may sound complicated but works well instead of the diverter valve and having the proper restriction makes a slower clamp action instead of having to use the main joystick to feather. Forget where I saw it but someone had blank male female JIC fittings that you just drill out with what ever size you want.

David Kb7uns

 

[JRL305]

Thanks David. I ordered the EA third function valve. They offer a discount when ordering a grapple and free shipping. It looks like it also has the hoses that go to the front of the loader so that I don't have to make those last two myself. I ordered the 48" grapple and it only has one claw. I know what you mean about making a restrictor. If I can't deal with it by RPM or maybe it'll be ok, I'll get an adapter fitting and build something to reduce the flow. Maybe a little washer in the adapter. I'll see how it goes with the setup first, then plan the attack.

John
KD4FTA

 

[trihounds]

John - that's the exact setup I have on my B3300 and I've been really impressed. From a couple days ago:

 

[David_Kb7uns]

Here is a wood chunk from the other day, having dual clamps is nice.

David Kb7uns

 

[JRL305]

I installed the hydralics in about an hour on Monday evening. I'll probably do the electrics this weekend. How does everyone position the knob? I know that however it's positioned, i'll still have to get used to it. Does anyone have a favorite? I don't want to be the guy wearing an earing in my right ear. :=)