7024 rod on DC welder

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I want to use 7024 rod for repairing a wood stove and was wondering if anyone has used it? I can not find smaller quantities so I will have to buy 50lbs which if it will run right I have no problem getting. My interest in this rod is it is a drag rod and seams to put down a pretty bead. What are your thoughts?
 
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There was a pretty big thread on WeldingWeb about 7024. Seems as I remember guys posting links to where you can buy 5 or 10-pounds at a time.
Anyone still use 7024 frequently/regularly/ever?

Last time I used 7024 was in the late 1970s or early 1980s. Wire feeders did in 7024 in my line of work. A lot of guys like to run it on AC. It does have a very heavy slag, if you can place the object being welded slightly up hill. That way the slag will roll away from the puddle. You'll also want to use more rod angle than say with 7018.
 
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Here in Canada, our LWS has them in 5# packs.

Terry
 
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7018 lays down a pretty bead also. Plus you get a touch better penetration.
 
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I want to use 7024 rod for repairing a wood stove and was wondering if anyone has used it? I can not find smaller quantities so I will have to buy 50lbs which if it will run right I have no problem getting. My interest in this rod is it is a drag rod and seams to put down a pretty bead. What are your thoughts?

If your interest is a drag rod, the 7014 does about the same style of weld and is an all position rod.
It's one of my favorites and lays an easy, nice bead :)

....well technically all welding is my favorite, but you know what I mean ;)
 
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7024 was the prettiest rod I ever ran, been over 30 years ago, but I do remember the pretty beads....
 
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Isn't 7024 also called Jet Weld?Made for flat runs,not so good vertical.Why not just use 7018?
 
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I want to use 7024 rod for repairing a wood stove and was wondering if anyone has used it? I can not find smaller quantities so I will have to buy 50lbs which if it will run right I have no problem getting. My interest in this rod is it is a drag rod and seams to put down a pretty bead. What are your thoughts?

Is that wood stove steel or cast iron?

The "2" in 7024 means that it's good for flat or horizontal welds. Not recommended for vertical or overhead.
I use 7024 occasionally to cap 6011 beads. It's a drag rod that produces a lot of slag ("if there's slag, then drag"). I use DC+, 1/8" rod, 100-130 amps, rod is dragged at about 30 deg from vertical. Lays down like squeeze butter.

Good luck.
 
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The stove I am working on is steel.... It so an old halogen fire extinguisher tank 100 gal. Most of what I do is sculptures out of steel. Have a Hobart 140 handler and I have pushed that to the limits... Love this machine! I think I will order 50lbs since it is well liked and easy to use. Thanks for all the useful infi and links.
 
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+1 on the 7014. This is the perfect application for it. 7024 lays down a bit faster, but with the slag issue, and the fact it doesn't do out of position welds, the 7014 is much better.
 
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Burned a lot of 7024. The slag can get in the way sometimes. 7014 has a slightly lighter slag but won't have as wide a bead. You can get it in smaller packages though. Both will work on either polarity but run the best on straight polarity(electrode negative). I don't drag 7024. I hold the arc length just high enough so the rod isn't pulling the slag behind it. I probably didn't have enough rod angle but have had the slag cause problems. If you burn it too hot, the weld will look like it has blisters in it. If you can use 50 lbs. and the welding is flat, 7024 leaves a real nice bead.
 
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I agree with using the 7014,they both have similar capability. The 7024 requires a lot of heat to melt the flux ,I believe it is considered for a commercial use more so as it puts more bead in one pass for efficiency and looks great with mild steel.
It may be considered all position but only works in 2 positions ,flat and horizontal on top.
I worked in a small farm factory back in early seventies we used 7018 for welding hard material (making pins) ,I hated it then and still do. We used 6011 I believe for the spotting together in jigs then run the 7024 to finish always rolling the product so we could weld flat .
 
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the 7024 has powdered iron/steel in the flux allowing you to fill ia\n more material as the rod melts..not just the wire inside is the filler, therefor you are putting more down faster, yes it take more amperage, ive never noticed a problem with a heavy slag, it should chip off pretty **** easy, unless its dirty steel underneath, jet rod/7024 does not like dirty steel!!!! ive poured down a lot of 3/16 jet...when u wanna get the job done! and it is only for flat as noted above many times. but that's not a big issue switch to 7018 when u want to do verts or overhead, its ok to have more then one kind of rod at your disposal and welding machines have those adjustment knobs for a reason! find your sweet spot mark it with a pencil and your set for next time... around here 7018 is the goto rod in industry, 6011 is just special application, dirty/rusty or thin material.... 7024 is used for filling big joints fast and pretty....
 
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7024=heat heat and more heat. We used to run around 180 amps DC with 5/32 and the flux with clean steel would peal it's self off. CJ
 
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I did some 6013 today, have never used it much before, and it had the flux peel up just like 7018 does.
Weld looked pretty good for being VERY inexperienced with 6013

I am going to have to look for some 7024, I am attempting to show my neighbor there is more welding rod than 6013.
He has a Lincoln AC buzz box and that's about all he uses.
I have a little 1970's era Graingers AC/DC buzz box I think I am going to give him and give him a little more range of welding rod.
 
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I did some 6013 today, have never used it much before, and it had the flux peel up just like 7018 does.
Weld looked pretty good for being VERY inexperienced with 6013

I am going to have to look for some 7024, I am attempting to show my neighbor there is more welding rod than 6013.
He has a Lincoln AC buzz box and that's about all he uses.
I have a little 1970's era Graingers AC/DC buzz box I think I am going to give him and give him a little more range of welding rod.

If he likes 6013 he'll like 7014 as long as he runs it hot :)

7014 almost runs itself ;)
 
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I have actually tried 7014 10-15 times 30 years ago, and never really got on to it.

We always pretty much always used 7018 for almost everything we did.
 

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