Tejas
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IT looks good and solid. Can’t wait to see the finished pics. I think it may be too much for the 4 wheeler, but would like to hear your after actions report. Good luck.
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RDrancher
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Yep, I rotate or flip my blades very often in the Summer when roads are hard. If you put the blade into the bank position and set it with the front edge up along the right side of the machine you can rotate them standing up with the bolts about waist high. Makes it much easier. My moldboard is 14ft with two 7ft blades. I use 8"x15/16". They are very heavy. Our current machine (JD770G) ran 550 hrs before I had to replace the cutters.
Sorry for the hijack. Us Grader guys tend to wander......
So THAT'S what happened to my mailbox...Sorry, I couldn't resist.
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So THAT'S what happened to my mailbox...Sorry, I couldn't resist.
Was going to ask but the whole neighborhood's phone lines were dead.,,,,
Can't really guess what the soil is like that you're pulling in. With regards to drag edge wear, my prediction that you will start thinking about all the ATV's U-joints, tires and stuff before the drag edge shows any wear. I do hard pulls with my ATV sometimes (logs dragging on dirt, or piles on the dolly) and I'm typically surprised how hard it will pull, but I often think when it's a hard pull, "I'm alright with this for a few minutes a couple times a month". I do have a tractor, but I'm much more confident on hillsides etc with the ATV, and it travels to the site , or back to other logs so much faster.
I'm all for using the eqpt to do what you need to do, what good are preserved u-joints when you'd rather drag some stuff!
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NS Gearhead
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I think the guy saying his wear bars warp was referring to a DOT truck plowing snow... that would produce more heat then a slow moving grader right?
Driveway's Class A gravel... but has some serge (6" stone) starting to come up in spots, so I'll have to dig them out... or add more gravel before grading.
I do have tracks coming for the wheeler that will add weight and gearing... so that's an option too.
Driveway's Class A gravel... but has some serge (6" stone) starting to come up in spots, so I'll have to dig them out... or add more gravel before grading.
I do have tracks coming for the wheeler that will add weight and gearing... so that's an option too.
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NS Gearhead
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I think the guy saying his wear bars warp was referring to a DOT truck plowing snow... that would produce more heat then a slow moving grader right?
Driveway's Class A gravel... but has some serge (6" stone) starting to come up in spots, so I'll have to dig them out... or add more gravel before grading.
I do have tracks coming for the wheeler that will add weight, traction, and gearing... so that's an option too.
Driveway's Class A gravel... but has some serge (6" stone) starting to come up in spots, so I'll have to dig them out... or add more gravel before grading.
I do have tracks coming for the wheeler that will add weight, traction, and gearing... so that's an option too.
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So THAT'S what happened to my mailbox...Sorry, I couldn't resist.
No worries. I can blade past a mailbox at 7mph and miss it by an inch. Since 1989 I've hit one. New box, the lady had just painted a country scene on the side. I think that distracted me!!!! She apologized for it being in my way... I offered to buy her a new one but she wouldn't have nothing to do with it. She still teases me about it today and that was 15 years ago.
mark02tj
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You need to come here and give our plow driver a lesson or two!! We've lived here 3 years - the first two winters the mailbox was pretty much unscathed. This year ours got taken totally out once and "mostly out" 2 more times. Next door neighbor's got hit 3 times as well. Mailboxes up and down the road were begging for mercy!! I bought a new mailbox a couple of weeks ago, but haven't put it up yet. When I do, I'm moving it further back a foot or two from the road.
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NS Gearhead
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So, meant to get the four pieces welded together... and cleaned everywhere I was going to weld... then decided to cap the back ends of the channel iron. LOL Got this far, then it was time to get the girl from daycare
I also weighed what I've got so far in an attempt to know how much this will weigh once done.
Channel iron; 43Lbs x 2= 86lbs
Pipe; 40lbs x 2=80lbs
Angle iron/ blade/ bolts; 47lbs
Caster & Jack; 19lbs x 2=38lbs
251lbs so far!
Still have sand, tongue, bracing, chair, expanded steel... should reach 300lbs.
I also weighed what I've got so far in an attempt to know how much this will weigh once done.
Channel iron; 43Lbs x 2= 86lbs
Pipe; 40lbs x 2=80lbs
Angle iron/ blade/ bolts; 47lbs
Caster & Jack; 19lbs x 2=38lbs
251lbs so far!
Still have sand, tongue, bracing, chair, expanded steel... should reach 300lbs.
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NS Gearhead
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Oh, I know it may not cut it. She's a Sportsman 570. 700lbs, AWD... I also have tracks coming for it that will add another 300lbs and reduce it's gearing by 40%. Plan B is my offroad only Tracker; 2500lbs ish, but open front and rear, and geared terribly. Next year we'll be getting a small SUV... Rav 4 or CRV... something like that... that could also be a possibility. Absolute worst case; I borrow a buddy's 1/2T Chevy.... although it won't make the trail that I someday hope to use this on.
I've got plans in the works for a back yard tractor/ buggy that will surely be heavy enough with gears to spare.
I've got plans in the works for a back yard tractor/ buggy that will surely be heavy enough with gears to spare.
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NS Gearhead
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Should I hold off on the sand?... not that it'll make that much of a difference... but if it's questionable if the wheeler can pull it...
JRP
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Ovrszd,
OMG your serious about a rider? Have Collin find and fill out an application for a Darwin. That would be history to have the application filled out in advance.
A man had his kids ride in the bucket of a Bobcat. They bounced out, he ran over them, and they are dead. Do you think he fells like an idiot now?
What would be an indicator of even lower IQ is if people told him it could happen but he ignored them anyhow.
I think this post must be a plant to see you gullible people can be.
Joke must be on us!
OMG your serious about a rider? Have Collin find and fill out an application for a Darwin. That would be history to have the application filled out in advance.
A man had his kids ride in the bucket of a Bobcat. They bounced out, he ran over them, and they are dead. Do you think he fells like an idiot now?
What would be an indicator of even lower IQ is if people told him it could happen but he ignored them anyhow.
I think this post must be a plant to see you gullible people can be.
Joke must be on us!
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NS Gearhead
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Hmm, was that directed at me? If so, yes I'm serious about having a rider/ operator. I suppose it's hard to picture... it'll become clear soon enough.
Keep in mind that it'll be at a snail's pace... and the only place he could fall would be off at the height of about 18".
I'm not going to debate this on here. If you'd like, you can start another thread in the safety section.
Keep in mind that it'll be at a snail's pace... and the only place he could fall would be off at the height of about 18".
I'm not going to debate this on here. If you'd like, you can start another thread in the safety section.
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Do you have a place to drag it around as it is built now? That's what I would do, go out and see how it pulls now. Colin can stand on it, see of the ATV can get it started moving.
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NS Gearhead
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Yeah true. I can just leave the end caps off until I can give it a test. One end of my driveway has a nice big parking area that I can circle around on... but the other ends on a paved cul-de-sac. That's the reason for the casters and neighbor's seat.
Another question; should the tongue be long or short? I'm thinking short will keep from lifting or lowering the front of the plane as much as the terrain rolls. Again, picture it as a trailer with no tires/ wheels/ axle when it's grading, but BAAM! tires when it's being moved. Long enough to jacknife should be good.
Another question; should the tongue be long or short? I'm thinking short will keep from lifting or lowering the front of the plane as much as the terrain rolls. Again, picture it as a trailer with no tires/ wheels/ axle when it's grading, but BAAM! tires when it's being moved. Long enough to jacknife should be good.
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NS Gearhead
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Put an honest 4hrs on this today.
Started by capping the ends
After squaring everything up and checking everything 10X, I welded 'er all up.
Started working on the tongue
I ended up flipping the hitch down... figured it was better to pull from down low instead of up high
Here's how far I got
...and just for reference I took this shot to reference where the casters will go. Just picture the jacks on top of them.
That's it for today. I think I'll take it for a "dry" run without the blade once the tongue's done.
Started by capping the ends
After squaring everything up and checking everything 10X, I welded 'er all up.
Started working on the tongue
I ended up flipping the hitch down... figured it was better to pull from down low instead of up high
Here's how far I got
...and just for reference I took this shot to reference where the casters will go. Just picture the jacks on top of them.
That's it for today. I think I'll take it for a "dry" run without the blade once the tongue's done.
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NS Gearhead
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You know the old expression; "if you can't tie knots, tie lots!" I'm that way with welding. I figure what I lack in welding ability, I make up for in design. Those pipe ends have over 12" of weld... each end. Shouldn't let go anytime soon.
Mendonsy
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I haven't really been following your thread, but one thought occurs to me.
You might want to drill an extra set of holes on the back side of the angle so that you could install the blade reversed. That should allow you to "backblade" for leveling softer soil or gravel.
You might want to drill an extra set of holes on the back side of the angle so that you could install the blade reversed. That should allow you to "backblade" for leveling softer soil or gravel.
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Looking good, you've got me inspired to build one. You might consider bracing that hitch on the ATV. I can't see yours, but on my Grizzly it was simply bolted to the differential casting, had no strength to resist the higher torque that a 2" receiver hitch adds. For example if someone stepped on the tongue of that 'trailer' what resists the bending on the ATV hitch?
