Are all sub compacts essentially equal?

[94BULLITT]

You may have mentioned a model earlier, but I quoted your exact words, and it was just "a B series" not any specific model.



You've been to most dealers in the country? Seriously, you know that for a fact? No, you're making that up (along with other stuff). So now it's that a dealer might be dishonest, and make a poor comparison that's favorable to their machine? Gasp, I've never heard of a dishonest salesman.

Still, if the customer doesn't notice a size difference, and likes the specs, they get something they like. You can whine all you want, but you can't change that fact....they aren't being deceived, or tricked...they can look at the models in person, and compare specs. Period, end of story.



We were talking about SCUTS, and CUTs....so the 5 and six series don't apply. That even further makes the point you're theory about classes is silly. The 5 and 6 series should start over with their own set of numbers if the CUT category is broken up into 1, 2, 3, and 4 class machines. I also didn't say the PTO HP was an absolute, but you went through the whole list, and found that only a couple fall outsize those general lines. 1 series are in the PTO hp teens. 2 series are in the 20s. 3 series are in the 30s. 4 series are in the 40s.



The point is it's not about LS, it's about you going ballistic any time there is a mention of SCUTs larger than what you think is proper, based upon what your favorite brand makes. If anybody disagrees with you, you go on and on that the other person is defending "their" brand. I own multiple brands (a fourth brand soon)....you seem to have only one brand....the one you're defending.



The LS USA website calls them small chassis tractors, and their brochure says "Small Compact" tractors. I don't know what the global marketing is, but I was pretty sure we were only talking about tractor sales in North America. I didn't say anything about what NH calls them.

J-Series « LS Tractor USA

http://lstractorusa.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/J-Series-Brochure.pdf



Well, you don't own Kubota, but you sure do seem to care...because you've spent countless hours beating this dead horse about all the machines that you don't think are SCUTs, and other people do.

I have said over, and over that a Boomer 25 and 1 series are essentially the same size....too close in dimensions to mean anything. I would call both a SCUT because they're smaller than what a traditional CUT is. If I can lift it with the FEL of my CUT, it's a SCUT, 2-range hydros help reinforce that position...a CUT would have a 3-range hydro.

You can go on arguing with tape measures and scales all you want, but at the end of all the whining and gnashing of teeth, your basic premise is flawed. Nobody is being misled or tricked. They can look with their own eyes (heck, bring a tape measure), and read the specs of any machine they're interested in. If they like what they see, and are happy with the specs, it really doesn't matter what label someone on the internet thinks it should be under.

It has to feel great to be right all the time. Could you give me 6 numbers so I can go buy a lottery ticket?

 

[scaredychicken]

Nope.

 

[GManBart]

It has to feel great to be right all the time. Could you give me 6 numbers so I can go buy a lottery ticket?

I can only do 5...you'll have to get the Powerball number from someone else.

 

[94BULLITT]

I can only do 5...you'll have to get the Powerball number from someone else.

Darn:laughing:

 

[MinnesotaEric]

Somebody oughta get one of them tiny, little tractors with the big, ol' knubby tires.

Oh, 42.

It must mean something, right?

 

[madmax12]

There are quite a number of choices in losseries, I mean lotteries.

Which one is the real lottery? Which one is the best? Is it better to pick numbers on your own or let the machine choose for you? If the machine picks, are you really playing the lottery or is the machine.

What about scratch tickets?

And how often should you throw your money away, I mean play, to really be considered a participant? Is infrequent involvement ok or is that really a mockery of the whole fleecing, I mean program?