John Deere 2025R Vs. Others

[petersene]

I've been looking for a tractor to replace my Ford 9N for a few years now. I think it has come to the point that my ford needs a complete restoration to be a reliable tractor. Also I use the Loader 80% of the time and the ford was never really meant to handle that. So, I have been looking at the J.D. 2025R with the H130 loader. I been trying to research some on that tractor but I guess being fairly new I haven't been able to find much. Does anyone have first hand knowledge of the J.D or would they recommend something else. I have looked at the Kubota, but kinda like the foot controls of the J.D. better. I was quoted a price of $17,675 for the 2025R with H130 Loader with 53" Bucket and Ballast Box. How does that compare to other prices some may have seen?

Thanks for you help.
Erik

 

[holzboat]

You could search John Deere 2320 and come up with many hits. Same tractor with very minor changes other than the decals. Being on Long Island doesn't help but there are 2 JD dealers, a Kubota dealer right around the corner from one of the JD dealers and a New Holland/ Mahindra dealer in Riverhead only a few miles from the Kubota and JD dealers. There is also a Massey Ferguson dealer in West Babylon.

 

[GManBart]

I don't think much of that price for what you get.

For around $12,500 you could get an LS J2023 that is the same basic size (within 100lbs), has similar power (within 1/2hp at the PTO), has twice the hydraulic pump flow, the same 3pt lift capacity, has 250lbs more FEL lift capacity to 6" higher max height (means it's significantly more powerful), and a better warranty.

I'm not saying the JD is a bad machine, but for a lot less money (relative term) you can get as much performance in every category, and a lot more in a few key areas.

 

[94BULLITT]

I've been looking for a tractor to replace my Ford 9N for a few years now. I think it has come to the point that my ford needs a complete restoration to be a reliable tractor. Also I use the Loader 80% of the time and the ford was never really meant to handle that. So, I have been looking at the J.D. 2025R with the H130 loader. I been trying to research some on that tractor but I guess being fairly new I haven't been able to find much. Does anyone have first hand knowledge of the J.D or would they recommend something else. I have looked at the Kubota, but kinda like the foot controls of the J.D. better. I was quoted a price of $17,675 for the 2025R with H130 Loader with 53" Bucket and Ballast Box. How does that compare to other prices some may have seen?

Thanks for you help.
Erik

It is a new model and comes in just under the strict teir4 emissions. I think it is the same tractor as the 2032 with less power and no emissions equipment. There may be some other minor differences. The price does not sound too bad for tractor that size. The Deere guys always say to build the tractors on JD's website like you got a quote on and take off 18%. I would check out and see how people like the 2032r and the 2720 that it replaced.

 

[pinetree10]

I bought the 2720 last year and I'm very happy with it. My father has a 9N so I'm familiar with that tractor too. I've always loved the way that old gas engine sounds and I've always liked the way that old tractor looks. The hydrostatic drive on my tractor makes operation so much easier, especially when you're using the FEL. I preferred the side-by-side pedals too. I don't know what kind of work you'll be doing with it but for my purposes it's been great. I've used the FEL for moving a lot of dirt and firewood and recently uprooted and moved a pretty big tree and root ball with it. My chipper is really the primary reason for buying the tractor though. I've only got 30 hours on it and probably half that time is for the chipper. I wanted a JD because I liked the fit and finish but I won't argue with those who find less expensive tractors out there. They're all nice machines no matter what the brand. I just looked at all the brands and went with JD because it was what I wanted.

 

[holzboat]

2320 = 2025R
2720 = 2032R
No more 2520

 

[TSO]

Also look at Massey. I believe the folks with the 1705/1710's ate getting them for around $13k.

 

[petersene]

Thank you for everyone's suggestions. The ls tractors looked intriguing but the closest dealer for me is over 2.5 hours away. Dealer support within an hour or less is fairly important to me. Looking at dealers that are close to me its, John Deere, Kubota, New Holland and Mahindra. It's a tough decision as I only want to buy this once and don't want to be disappointed with my decision. I'm going to try an take off work one day and go take a look at all of these. Thank You for your help and keep the comments coming.

 

[GManBart]

Thank you for everyone's suggestions. The ls tractors looked intriguing but the closest dealer for me is over 2.5 hours away. Dealer support within an hour or less is fairly important to me. Looking at dealers that are close to me its, John Deere, Kubota, New Holland and Mahindra. It's a tough decision as I only want to buy this once and don't want to be disappointed with my decision. I'm going to try an take off work one day and go take a look at all of these. Thank You for your help and keep the comments coming.

FYI, the New Holland Boomers, are actually the same machine as an LS with a weaker loader, and much higher price tag. For that reason alone, I wouldn't buy one.

 

[petersene]

Looking a little more and afraid of getting something too small what are the main differences between the 2025 & 3032e other that engine HP & Size? I have this overwhelming fear of getting something too small.

 

[TSO]

Looking a little more and afraid of getting something too small what are the main differences between the 2025 & 3032e other that engine HP & Size? I have this overwhelming fear of getting something too small.

Common rule of thumb around here: whatever sized tractor you think you need, go with one size bigger.

 

[charleyfarmall]

Petersene,
I have a 2720 and this morning placed and order for a 2025R H130, 62D, Ballast Box, Third SCV, 61" materials bucket. Your price is pretty good. Yes there are less expensive tractors out there that can do the same job just fine. My experience has been that they are not the same as there is usually some level of refinement in function with the more expensive machines. I have owned 12 tractors at this point and they all have pro's and con's. At this point in time I prefer Deere because of some of the features they have on both big and small machines. I might have bought a Massey 1655 if it were't for the self leveling loader on the Deere for example.

You haven't said what you are going to be doing with your machine. The 2025R and 2032R are both very capable machines and they are slightly different in size. For loader work the two are equivalent. The extra power would be handy for ground engaging work. I use a 6' tiller and flail mower on the 2720 and will not on the 2025R, which I would limit to 5' implements. If you don't REQUIRE 6' implements then you will be more than fine with the 2025R and you can spend the extra money on implements. If you have steep hills you might also want more power for mowing as well. Otherwise you are fine.

We are happy to help you spend more if you want though....

 

[petersene]

My primary use would be residential landscaping. With my current 9N 80% of the time it's used for loader work (mulch, gravel etc.) Other than that is would be grading & York rake work. Occasional Post hole auger & snow removal. I'm leaning towards the Kubota B2620 or the J.D 2025r. I'm going to try and take off work so I can go try them out.

 

[buck boost]

I looked at a 2025r before I bought my B2920 (same chassis just a puff more HP). I thought the JD was a great machine. It only has a two range hydro though. The B line up has three range. The loader plumbing and routing is cleaner on the bota as well.

I wasn't sure how "heel/toe" hydro operation on the bota was gonna work out either compared to the side by side on the JD. After a 150 hours on the bota, the operation is second nature. In fact, when backing up, I shift my butt on the seat and put my right arm on the ROPS. When doing that it is nice to have the reverse pedal close to the seat versus stretching my right leg up to the front. It is all what you get used to, and I have no problem at all with bota.

Not having position control has not been a detriment either. My preference would position control over quarter inching, but quarter inching works fine (3pt hitch control). The loader with integral control valve works great also, not sure what the deere has.

 

[petersene]

Well, I had the local Kubota dealer bring a the B2620 to my property to demo. Initially I hated it. It seemed like a to when compared to the size and weight of my 9N. After I spent about an hour on the machine I got to like it. Would definitely need to put ballast in the tires. Anyway I'm now thinking of the L3200. Two drawbacks that I see, Brake pedal is on the same side as HST lever and not a dual brake setup. Also there is no mid mount PTO. The PTO is not as big of deal as the brake setup. I have not had time to go look at the L3200 in person but will this week. What else am I missing in the B VS L? I thinking the physical size and weight of the L would be a better match for me.

 

[Paystar]

I love my B2620. Don't think I would want to go any heavier for mowing unless your yard is bone dry. I do wish it had the steering brakes on the opposite side as the hydro pedals, and position control.....but I have learned to adapt.

As far as the John Deere 2R series, and I am not bashing, but have they corrected the bending loader stands, bending fuel tank brackets that cause the filler cap to rub the hood and the u-joint failures I have been reading about on all these forums since 2008?
Also thought I read they had that pto cutout in reverse that the 1R has. That would be a definite deal breaker for me.

 

[jclego]

I have the 2720 (similar to 2032) and love it. One word of caution- my father-in-law's post hole digger does not fit. I think it is from tractor supply. Overall, it is a very well made tractor.

 

[petersene]

Well I think I made up my mind. Looks like I'm going with the L3200. Now we just have to negotiate price. The price they quoted me was $19,500 + Tax. the only option is the 66" quick attach bucket. When I price it out on Kubota's website it comes to $22,095. If we apply a 10% discount off MSRP we come up with $19,886. With the $1,000 rebate when using 0% financing and another $500 for the Instant rebate for loader package I believe a realistic number should be $18,366 + Tax. What does everyone think of those numbers? I would like to finalize the deal tomorrow if we can come to an agreement.

 

[murphy1244]

Try one out first, you may hate it.

 

[petersene]

Try one out first, you may hate it.

I demoed a 2650 at my house. The L3200 I tried out at the dealership. Any reason you may say I may hate it? With all this research I've discovered there is no perfect tractor.