Pallets in fields

[lilranch2001]

Why is Steve now talking about predicting concrete testicles?

 

[k0ua]

James,

I am in the process of assigning a value to the "Crackpot Index" for your theory, but I cannot assign a final value until you address two issues.

1. Based on my casual empiricism, antennas tend to be constructed from metallic substances rather than vegetative matter (i.e., wood). Your exposition fails to address the photographic evidence that suggests that the pallets are of wooden construction. Whether this omission on your part is inadvertent or willful is unclear. I will defer judgement on this matter until you provide an explanation.

2. Please list the concrete testable predictions derived from your theory.

Steve

PS -- you went on a scoring binge by your appeals to magic.

Yeah, well there is that little wooden construction thing I guess. But hey, it was sounding pretty good don't you think? I mean I did account for a little "magic" didn't I?

Since when is my BS not a good as the squirrel folks BS?:confused3: And this ELF thing is Waaaay off base..

 

[smstonypoint]

It has become apparent that the quest for the meaning of the pallets has developed a major theory schism.

Upon careful review of all theories proposed to-date, I have deduced that they fall neatly into two mutually exclusive groups:

1) (Palletists) The intrinsic value pallet theory; the pallets themselves are the end-point objects of interest, or play a significant role in the over all purpose.

2) (Schemists) The pallets as artifact theory; the pallets are only the coincidental residue of some larger and grander scheme.

I see no hope of healing this Pallet Schism.

Dave,

I believe you are being too pessimistic. I continue my own study of string theory to determine whether that theory can reconcile the two groups.

Many theoretical physicists (among them Stephen Hawking, Edward Witten, and Juan Maldacena) believe that string theory is a step towards the correct fundamental description of nature. This is because string theory allows for the consistent combination of quantum field theory and general relativity, agrees with general insights in quantum gravity such as the holographic principle and black hole thermodynamics, and because it has passed many non-trivial checks of its internal consistency.

String theory - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Although I have not committed to a "string theory" explanation of the pallet formations, that theory appears to offer insights into the problem.

 

[smstonypoint]

Why is Steve now talking about predicting concrete testicles?

Sir, a visit to your optometrist is in order.

Steve

 

[dragoneggs]

Yeah, well there is that little wooden construction thing I guess. But hey, it was sounding pretty good don't you think? I mean I did account for a little "magic" didn't I?

Since when is my BS not a good as the squirrel folks BS?:confused3: And this ELF thing is Waaaay off base..

But have we already concluded the pallets are wood??? I must have missed that.

 

[dave1949]

Here are some photos. Don't know who owns the fields but will ask around. No one sees this elsewhere? Very strange. I counted over 20 of them this morning in my travels on various properties.

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I have spectrographically analyzed the light refracted from the pallets while wearing my x-ray vision glasses. They have the distinct signature of wood.

 

[k0ua]

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I have spectrographically analyzed the light refracted from the pallets while wearing my x-ray vision glasses. They have the distinct signature of wood.

Yeah, but you would not be able to tell that there could be a small copper wire legs draped over the wooden pallets just using them to support the wire/insulator/and feedline. The resolution of the photo's are just not good enough (again a failing of someone else, not me) to determine.

 

[Marveltone]

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I have spectrographically analyzed the light refracted from the pallets while wearing my x-ray vision glasses. They have the distinct signature of wood.

Oooooohhhh... X-ray vision glasses! Now we're pulling out the big guns! :cool2:

Joe

 

[Marveltone]

Yeah, but you would not be able to tell that there could be a small copper wire legs draped over the wooden pallets just using them to support the wire/insulator/and feedline. The resolution of the photo's are just not good enough (again a failing of someone else, not me) to determine.

Perhaps we're looking at the wrong band. What if we're dealing in the UHF or higher frequencies? Each fastener could act as a complete antenna with the sum of them acting as passive repeaters for a boosted signal. The wood isolated each individual antenna from the other, while the shape of the antenna arrays (pallets) could act to direct the beams to the intended receivers.

Joe

 

[smstonypoint]

I have spectrographically analyzed the light refracted from the pallets while wearing my x-ray vision glasses. They have the distinct signature of wood.

Not to be piling on, but the OP mentioned that the pallets appear in late fall and disappear in the spring. From a link provided by James:

The 6-meter band is a portion of the VHF radio spectrum allocated to amateur radio use. Although located in the lower portion of the VHF band, it nonetheless occasionally displays propagation mechanisms characteristic of the HF bands. This normally occurs close to sunspot maximum, when solar activity increases ionization levels in the upper atmosphere. During the last sunspot peak of 2005, worldwide 6-meter propagation occurred making 6-meter communications as good as or in some instances and locations, better than HF frequencies. The prevalence of HF characteristics on this VHF band has inspired amateur operators to dub it the "magic band".

In the northern hemisphere, activity peaks from May through early August, when regular sporadic E propagation enables long-distance contacts spanning up to 2,500 kilometres (1,600 mi) for single-hop propagation.

6-meter band - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Notice that the pallets are nowhere to be seen during the peak activity of this so-called "magic band" (a term used by amateurs).

Steve

 

[k0ua]

Perhaps we're looking at the wrong band. What if we're dealing in the UHF or higher frequencies? Each fastener could act as a complete antenna with the sum of them acting as passive repeaters for a boosted signal. The wood isolated each individual antenna from the other, while the shape of the antenna arrays (pallets) could act to direct the beams to the intended receivers.

Joe

Oww.. I hadn't thought about that!

 

[dave1949]

Oooooohhhh... X-ray vision glasses! Now we're pulling out the big guns! :cool2:

Joe

I must credit Steve for the x-ray vision technique. He proposed it many pages ago.

I cannot speak to the scientific validity of his interest in x-ray vision, however rest assured I have only pure science in mind.

 

[RobertBrown]

Your "Palletist" wooden antenna theory, as so ably pointed out by Steve, sucks frass. :laughing:

It is widely known that the only thing wood conducts well is termites.

Why should we assume that this antenna is transmitting or receiving a wave that oscillates at all....perhaps this signal is composed of electromagnetic radiation or
light of a specific wavelength.

Do I get any point for James Clerk Maxwell or Heinrich Hertz?

 

[Marveltone]

Why should we assume that this antenna is transmitting or receiving a wave that oscillates at all....perhaps this signal is composed of electromagnetic radiation or
[/FONT]light of a specific wavelength.

Do I get any point forJames Clerk Maxwell or Heinrich Hertz?

Extra credit for taking the time to change fonts.

Joe

 

[dave1949]

Why should we assume that this antenna is transmitting or receiving a wave that oscillates at all....perhaps this signal is composed of electromagnetic radiation or
[/FONT]light of a specific wavelength.

Do I get any point forJames Clerk Maxwell or Heinrich Hertz?

Photons can have the behavior of a particle with mass, and also behave as a wave.

As to electromagnetic radiation, what is the half-life of a pallet, and, what element does palletium become as it decays?

Such things were not understood in the time of Maxwell or Hertz IIRC.

What is this "palatino linotype" font? Perhaps the aliens have inserted a virus in your PC?

 

[smstonypoint]

I must credit Steve for the x-ray vision technique. He proposed it many pages ago.

I cannot speak to the scientific validity of his interest in x-ray vision, however rest assured I have only pure science in mind.

Sir, I can assure that I use my x-ray vision glasses for no other purpose than scientific research. I keep them under lock and key when I am not using them -- I do not want my male laboratory technicians ogling my research associate, Pipette.

Steve

 

[k0ua]

Not to be piling on, but the OP mentioned that the pallets appear in late fall and disappear in the spring. From a link provided by James:



Notice that the pallets are nowhere to be seen during the peak activity of this so-called "magic band" (a term used by amateurs).Steve

Yes but the primary E skip propagation season of May thru August is not the only methods of propagation on this band. There is a second E season preceding and after the winter solstice. Also Trans Equatorial Propagation (TEP) can occur at any time as well as F layer skip during sunspot maximum conditions. There are also some instances of Longpath communications that are as of yet unexplained. And this does not even touch upon groundwave (available 100 percent of the time) and Auroral propagation. This is why it is noted as the magic band, and one does not just put up their antennas when they think conditions are favorable.

 

[TomSeller]

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I have spectrographically analyzed the light refracted from the pallets while wearing my x-ray vision glasses. They have the distinct signature of wood.

These are alien antennas, they have invisible antennas. The pallets are to distract you mortals.

 

[TomSeller]

x-ray vision, however rest assured I have only pure science in mind.

Not according to your fist picture. Now back to science, forget those girls until we solve this.

 

[RobertBrown]

Photons can have the behavior of a particle with mass, and also behave as a wave.

As to electromagnetic radiation, what is the half-life of a pallet, and, what element does palletium become as it decays?

Such things were not understood in the time of Maxwell or Hertz IIRC.

What is this "palatino linotype" font? Perhaps the aliens have inserted a virus in your PC?

As to electromagnetic radiation, what is the half-life of a pallet, and, what element does palletium become as it decays?

Why do you ask?