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/ New Ford F150 #141  
Ha! I'm 5'7" and weigh 155lbs w my boots on! LOL!! It towed my fifth wheel mostly. It did see its share of tractor and wood hauling.

Good thing you had a 4500 and 4.88's for that load. So many on here would swear you were over your GVWR and GCWR pulling that log splitter.


Chris
 
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#142  
Tremor Package
Optional


still showing at least on the internal FX4 info

wow are these trucks getting expensive; all these starting prices
in the forties...and some even higher.

Topkicker, that's just gorgeous. What a comfortable home to live in while pulling the rv.
I was trying nicely to figure out what in the world you would use something that big for, and
a fifth wheel is just the ticket. Bunch of those rigs go over ten tons. Nothing like size and weight to keep
you firmly in control. Did the Duramax really have enough power? Did they offer a Cummins?
 
/ New Ford F150 #143  
Ford has cancelled the Tremor F150 model. I didn't want to read through all the off topic battles to see if someone stated this.

They didn't cancel it. You can still order Tremors through the 2014 model offering. But they won't offer it as a 2015. Their plan is to trim down some of the assembly options to speed production. As they get over the initial hurdles of a new model, they will start to increase packages, options, etc. like they've done in the past. Who knows if that package will be back though. Ford likes to make money, like any good company, so they can stay afloat.
 
/ New Ford F150 #144  
Good thing you had a 4500 and 4.88's for that load. So many on here would swear you were over your GVWR and GCWR pulling that log splitter. Chris

LMAO!! Is this better??
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/ New Ford F150 #145  
Tremor Package Optional still showing at least on the internal FX4 info wow are these trucks getting expensive; all these starting prices in the forties...and some even higher. Topkicker, that's just gorgeous. What a comfortable home to live in while pulling the rv. I was trying nicely to figure out what in the world you would use something that big for, and a fifth wheel is just the ticket. Bunch of those rigs go over ten tons. Nothing like size and weight to keep you firmly in control. Did the Duramax really have enough power? Did they offer a Cummins?
Plenty of MoJo paired w the 4:88's. The only Diesel option on the 4500 was the D-Max. The brakes were insane. Would stop a load on a dime. If that wouldn't enough, it had a 2 stage factory exhaust brake. The Allison tranny in it had the optional PTO also. It's an 06 model. Sadly GM got out of the Medium Duty game.
 
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#146  
On the current top of the line Limited, it won't allow any engine option other than the Ecoboost six.
When you force the 6.2 option, it takes you all the way back to XLT. That seems strange.
but it sure does emphasize how premium Ford believes the Ecoboost to be. Or perhaps how premium they
hope we feel it is.

From my own experience driving the same engine in two different vehicles, a Golf TDI and a Passat TDI, my Golf
absolutely has more surge to it than the Passat, because it weighs about four hundred pounds less. Not seven hundred
like Ford's weight drop, but a real seat of the pants difference. That much torque and under three thousand pounds is simply a hoot to drive.
Ford needs every pound of that drop if they drop their big motor. I assume the 6.2 will continue on in the SuperDuty's.

We really are getting better trucks due to this competition. I look more for function than form, and it worries me whether this trend towards
massive onboard electronics is going to make everything unreliable. Who cares if it tows well if it won't start? We are dealing with computer busses now, not the old
wiring for sure. Your truck is a rolling wifi spot. I wonder if there is a solar flare if that hotspot will get too hot for comfort? Like a mini EMF...
It just seems so unnecessary, I'd rather have the high strength aluminum alloy instead. Just don't muck with its reliability.

I'm sorry, our IT auto consultant is out today.
Yes, I'm aware all the trucks stopped.
It was a safety feature ma'am, all for your protection.
No, these computer geeks are really sharp and they'll have you fixed in no time.
No ma'am, we don't know when...


kind of makes you pine for your Blue Flame Six and three on the tree.
 
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#147  
Is this better??

we believe, just a little green with envy on your rig. I just bought a class A Ford with the V10 gas and so far that engine has sure been
faultless. And the whole thing is only 28 feet long, but then there's only one of me. And guess what, because I have one of the lightest frames on
the F53 chassis, that thing actually accelerates. I can keep up with traffic. Now it roars and bellows doing it, but it seems quite happy.
And because it's lighter, it moves right along. And actually handles after I added a front and rear stabilizers; driving a giant UPS van can get fun on the turnpike when
semis are overtaking you at 10+. But you sit up there in the lap of luxury, with all that weight behind you, like a semi, and your driving environment is likely quieter and more comfortable. Funny, my insurance agent said get anything but a fifth wheel, apparently people overdrive their abilities.

Now if they offered the DD six as an option, say in the 1600-1800 foot pound version, well my, that would do quite nicely.
No replacement for displacement, but maybe today, the turbos will do the work. Let's face it, it's what happened to diesels. 200hp diesels became 400 hp diesels with turbo and intercooling. It works...but the engine has to be strong. The more they jack up these engines, the more they risk building
some grenades.
 
/ New Ford F150 #148  
Is this better?? we believe, just a little green with envy on your rig. I just bought a class A Ford with the V10 gas and so far that engine has sure been faultless. And the whole thing is only 28 feet long, but then there's only one of me. And guess what, because I have one of the lightest frames on the F53 chassis, that thing actually accelerates. I can keep up with traffic. Now it roars and bellows doing it, but it seems quite happy. And because it's lighter, it moves right along. And actually handles after I added a front and rear stabilizers; driving a giant UPS van can get fun on the turnpike when semis are overtaking you at 10+. But you sit up there in the lap of luxury, with all that weight behind you, like a semi, and your driving environment is likely quieter and more comfortable. Funny, my insurance agent said get anything but a fifth wheel, apparently people overdrive their abilities. Now if they offered the DD six as an option, say in the 1600-1800 foot pound version, well my, that would do quite nicely. No replacement for displacement, but maybe today, the turbos will do the work. Let's face it, it's what happened to diesels. 200hp diesels became 400 hp diesels with turbo and intercooling. It works...but the engine has to be strong. The more they jack up these engines, the more they risk building some grenades.

It's funny how these threads start and how they take a 90 degree turn off topic. I admit to contributing heavily on this thread. You made a good point. With the intro of the turbo on a diesel engine, HP and torque ratings near doubled. The gas Ford Eco Boost six boast V-8 style numbers now. Is this the new wave of gas powered 1/2 tons?? Only time will tell. I'm a "no replacement for displacement " kind of guy when it comes to gas engines. Right or wrong, I just like the simplicity of a push rod V-8 gas engine and the sound when I buy a light duty truck.
 
/ New Ford F150 #150  
My last diesel truck was a C-4500 GMC Crew Cab built at Flint Truck Assembly. I was amazed at how many GM employees didn't know about these.

Oh man! :licking: I can't believe they stopped making those! I thought they were popular, seems like every municipality around here has a couple with dump beds and the phone company used them for their smaller bucket trucks.

I've been casually looking for one set up like yours but 4x4. I found one for the right money but it was 2x4.
 
/ New Ford F150 #151  
Oh man! :licking: I can't believe they stopped making those! I thought they were popular, seems like every municipality around here has a couple with dump beds and the phone company used them for their smaller bucket trucks. I've been casually looking for one set up like yours but 4x4. I found one for the right money but it was 2x4.

The problem with a 4500 4x4 is the ride height to pull a 5th wheel RV. The 4x4 sit nearly 4in higher. The nose of the 5er would be pointing at the sky. Mine set near level with the hitch pin on the 5th wheel in the last set of adjustment bolts.
 
/ New Ford F150 #152  
The first thing that got axed during GM's bankruptcy was the medium and heavy duty truck division.
 
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#153  
Bet it sounds pretty sweet.....and how about the 2015 F-150? 700 lbs lighter! That has to be good for another 3 mpgs from the Ecoboost 3.5. It wasn't slow before, now a rocket?

An interesting quote from oldest and best friend, who like me has been a motorhead since our teens. He doesn't own a truck and knows nothing of this thread; it's just what he reads and all I can say is this is exactly the reaction Ford wants.

we were discussing the merits of the new Mustang GT convertible, and whether the new pipes sounded as good. Seems to be a higher pitch vs lower before.
I do like the rumble.
 
/ New Ford F150 #154  
Plenty of MoJo paired w the 4:88's. The only Diesel option on the 4500 was the D-Max. The brakes were insane. Would stop a load on a dime. If that wouldn't enough, it had a 2 stage factory exhaust brake. The Allison tranny in it had the optional PTO also. It's an 06 model. Sadly GM got out of the Medium Duty game.

Topkick. that is a way cool truck..Remember that from older threads..Wish I could drive one of those everyday, but the occasional parking garage thing in the city prevents such thoughts...The wife wanted me to buy a 4x4 D-Max dually Denali when I bought the 1/2 ton..Sadly, common sense negated that..Even though I really liked it.
 
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#155  
The first thing that got axed during GM's bankruptcy was the medium and heavy duty truck division.

and gave up the gas powered motorhome market to Ford and it's very capable V10. Sure would be nice if they put DI and other goodies on that thing.
Next time I pull up to another motorhome and wave a twenty out the window, I really don't want to lose it...:D
 
/ New Ford F150 #156  
and gave up the gas powered motorhome market to Ford and it's very capable V10. Sure would be nice if they put DI and other goodies on that thing.
Next time I pull up to another motorhome and wave a twenty out the window, I really don't want to lose it...:D

I had a V10 powered Ford chassis Class C and it ran OK, drank like a kosak though..The plug issues, electrical problems and the rotting exhaust manifold bolts caused me to get rid of it (epic OEM failures all estimated at time and materials, nice)..Couldn't find a GM in the class C market, so I went with a 32' TT pulled by a GMC. No more getting stranded headaches
 
/ New Ford F150 #157  
We sold our 99 class A motorhome with v10 and banks system last year. We had 3 trips to Texas, averaged about 7.5 driving around 60 pulling our car with plenty of power it was flawless.
 
/ New Ford F150 #158  
I had a V10 powered Ford chassis Class C and it ran OK, drank like a kosak though..The plug issues, electrical problems and the rotting exhaust manifold bolts caused me to get rid of it (epic OEM failures all estimated at time and materials, nice)..Couldn't find a GM in the class C market, so I went with a 32' TT pulled by a GMC. No more getting stranded headaches

I have to say I'm not impressed by the ford V10. I have a 2011 450 box truck 4x4 with the V10 it gets 8mpg empty and 7 loaded. It's underpowered loosing speed in passing gear going up hills in the interstate. It's not had any problems so far and last I checked around 30,000 miles on it. Hopefully it's dependable. Multiple dad had a motor home with the V10 not sure what year but was even less impressed with it than my box truck.
 
/ New Ford F150 #159  
Real deal on aluminum repair. $ 50,000 investment according to Ford is extreme low ball. $ 1000,0000 to start, plus one or more stalls sitting empty when no aluminum cars are being repaired. If you buy one and wreck it look for a extreme high end European repair shop Mercedes and Audi have a few aluminum cars. Tools, area and welders must all be separate and never mixed. I would expect a 10% to 20% insurance increase at first. That will decrease over the next 10 years after more manufactures go aluminium.



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Ford Reveals Details of All-Aluminum F-150 at CIC
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By Jason Stahl
1/20/2014 9:12:59 AM


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Paul Massie, powertrain and collision product marketing manager for Ford.
Paul Massie, powertrain and collision product marketing manager for Ford.
Ever since Ford Motor Company officially announced at the North American International Auto Show in Detroit that the 2015 F-150 would be entirely made of high-strength, military-grade aluminum alloy, collision repairers have had many questions about what they need to do to gear up for repairing this vehicle. Some of those questions were answered at the Collision Industry Conference (CIC) held Jan. 16-17 in Palm Springs, Calif.

“We designed the vehicle so it can be easily repaired and accessible so the customer can go where they want to get it repaired,” said Paul Massie, powertrain and collision product marketing manager for Ford.

Massie stated there will be no restrictions on what body shops can repair the vehicle. Although Ford will not require a shop to have a separate clean room partitioned off with cinderblocks, it will recommend the use of curtains to separate aluminum from steel work and specific equipment to handle the repairs. The total investment for a shop that is starting from ground zero with aluminum repair is estimated to be around $50,000.

“That’s if you have absolutely no aluminum equipment today,” Massie said. “So if you’re already in the aluminum business and already have the equipment and separate aluminum from steel, you’re probably a long way to having the equipment you need.”

Also, genuine Ford collision repair parts will be available to all shops. All parts sold will include instructions on how to properly install them.

Ford will begin its education on the 2015 F-150 and aluminum repair at the AASP/NJ Northeast Show March 21-23 at the Meadowlands. A cutaway of the vehicle will be featured so repairers can see all of its structural components. Also, engineers will be present to talk about the vehicle, and I-CAR training developed with Ford will be available.

Ford is also offering to do a presentation on the 2015 F-150 at the next CIC April 9-10 in Portland, Ore., although details are not firmed up yet. Information will also be available at NACE and SEMA.

“The goal is to make high-strength, military-grade aluminum alloy collision repair mainstream,” said Massie. “We want it to be as mainstream as it already is for steel.”
 
/ New Ford F150 #160  
Topkick. that is a way cool truck..Remember that from older threads..Wish I could drive one of those everyday, but the occasional parking garage thing in the city prevents such thoughts...The wife wanted me to buy a 4x4 D-Max dually Denali when I bought the 1/2 ton..Sadly, common sense negated that..Even though I really liked it.

I think you made the right call. With the extra price of diesel, the DEF fluid use, and the up charge for the D-Max and Allison, I would have went w the gas burner also. In retrospect, a 14 2500 LTZ D-Max would cost me MORE than I gave for my 06 4500.
 
 
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