Pallets in fields

[Marveltone]

Not just a degree, the man has experience, cachet and skill beyond words! :cool2:

I beginning to believe he has a PHD (Piled Higher and Deeper).

Joe

 

[Jim Shooz]

Maybe some active science is necessary here... I think I will go outside and place a couple pallets 'in the position' and monitor. I will of course report back all findings. Hang on....

Will you have to feed them while you are watching them ???? What would they eat ??

 

[smstonypoint]

Steve, I respectfully challenge your assessment that the pallet formations are triangular. Had the two stacked pallets been stacked upon a third pallet on the ground, your assessment would be accurate. Looking at the formation, your attention is immediately drawn to the two stacked pallets, placed in an inverted V orientation.

Based on this, I am officially joining the "militarist" faction. For now. Until I change my mind. Maybe "alienist" tomorrow... No, definitely militarist. Maybe.

Sir, there is no requirement that the three sides of a triangle be composed of homogenous materials. The base of the formations remains terra firma, an inconvenient fact for the militarists. The attention of an amateur may be confined to the pallets, but a real scientist considers all the facts.

Steve

 

[lilranch2001]

Steve I challenge you to stack seed bags on the earth and then try to pick them up and move them with your pallet forks

 

[k0ua]

Steve I challenge you to stack seed bags on the earth and then try to pick them up and move them with your pallet forks

Lets see him explain his way out of this one! ha!

 

[smstonypoint]

Maybe some active science is necessary here... I think I will go outside and place a couple pallets 'in the position' and monitor. I will of course report back all findings. Hang on....

Excellent!!! The armchair "scientists" have tossed out conjectures left and right, but have made no attempt to test their so-called "theories" by experimentation.

Steve

PS -- make sure that you take pictures if the pallets take flight or aliens appear.

 

[stuckmotor]

In reviewing the literature, I have found that the "Artist" theory has been offered before.
We require the services of someone with a BA.
Steve

If you eat too much, you'll going to get a BA. It's a fact of life.

 

[smstonypoint]

Steve I challenge you to stack seed bags on the earth and then try to pick them up and move them with your pallet forks

Lets see him explain his way out of this one! ha!

I see that the die-hard "seedists" cling to their discredited theory, not unlike the members of the Flat Earth Society.

Instead of asking me to perform a meaningless experiment, "the seedists" should explain the "inconvenient" facts (repeated below) that debunked their theory in the first place.

Steve

I have seen a lot of fields get planted and generally the farmer fills up in the same place (on the side of the field) so as to refill the fertilizer tanks/bins at the same time as he fills the seed hoppers. As such, I don't think that your supposition will fit these pallets.

In addition, the "Seedists" should also have to explain the following.

The pallets appear in late fall and disappear in early spring according to the OP. What crops are planted in the late fall? Depending on how you define "late," only small grains and canola come to mind amongst the agronomic crops. Amongst horticultural crops, beets, broccoli, carrots (AKA carets), kale, peas, and spinach come to mind.

1. The OP provided us with photos of the pallet formations as of late December. Would we not expect to see some evidence of the germination and growth of fall-planted crops (either agronomic or horticultural) in those photos?

2. Why would farmers wait until spring to retrieve the pallets and thus do damage to fall-planted crops?

3. In my experience, a relatively small amount of seed is required relative to acreage. This is especially true for some of the horticultural crops. What crop uses a seeding rate that would require two pallets of seed every 500-700 feet?

 

[ljohnson778]

Sir, there is no requirement that the three sides of a triangle be composed of homogenous materials. The base of the formations remains terra firma, an inconvenient fact for the militarists. The attention of an amateur may be confined to the pallets, but a real scientist considers all the facts. Steve

Ahh, but it should be obvious to a learned man such as yourself... The pallets themselves are the true subject of this investigation. I think by ruling out the inverted V and insisting upon the triangle theory, you close off various avenues of investigation. Rather, I think you should consider the ground as possibly a convenient surface on which the inverted V formations be placed.

 

[Jim Shooz]

Have you considered that instead of an inverted V they could be the bottom half of an X. Who knows where the top half is, or what dastardly deed it is getting up to.

 

[tkappeler]

This is getting to be curiouser and curiouser.

You will notice that one "tkappeler," who "claims" to be from New Jersey, agreed to seek additional information about the pallets -- this on January 14. He frittered his time away by posting additional messages, the last appearing on January 15.

It is now January 18, and we have yet to hear from this "tkappeler." There may be alternative explanations, but two come to mind immediately:

a. both Bod and tkappeler have paid the ultimate price in the interest of science, or
b. both are slackers.

However, to be fair to tkappeler, his last post indicates that he may have ADD.

Steve

You found me out. I am sparc. tkappeler and sparc are the same person. Notice how i cannot post both at the same time?
kidding.

I have not posted because I neither have paid the ultimate price nor a slacker nor ADD. Squirrel!!! I have in fact been driving through NJ trying to find the pallets that sparc "claims" were placed in the field. I am beginning to think HE placed them there himself to see how far we would ... Squirrel!!

 

[bcp]

Sir, there is no requirement that the three sides of a triangle be composed of homogenous materials. The base of the formations remains terra firma, an inconvenient fact for the militarists. The attention of an amateur may be confined to the pallets, but a real scientist considers all the facts.

Steve

But the "base" extends beyond the triangle. Perhaps what is near but not under the triangle should not be ignored due to our fixation on only the obvious traingle portion of the pattern.



Bruce

 

[TomSeller]

Have you considered that instead of an inverted V they could be the bottom half of an X. Who knows where the top half is, or what dastardly deed it is getting up to.

The top half of the X is invisible. This is why the mystery has not been solved, everyone is thinking we are dealing with an upside down V. And the simple answer to why the Xs are in the field is to mark spots in the field. X marks the spot.

 

[TomSeller]

Maybe some active science is necessary here... I think I will go outside and place a couple pallets 'in the position' and monitor. I will of course report back all findings. Hang on....

Make sure you take pictures of the aliens that will visit.

 

[k0ua]

You found me out. I am sparc. tkappeler and sparc are the same person. Notice how i cannot post both at the same time?
kidding.

I have not posted because I neither have paid the ultimate price nor a slacker nor ADD. Squirrel!!! I have in fact been driving through NJ trying to find the pallets that sparc "claims" were placed in the field. I am beginning to think HE placed them there himself to see how far we would ... Squirrel!!

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Perhaps the farmer has picked up the pallets after stacking them together for a while so he would not run over them and as a reminder to pick them up.. Since we have never heard back from Sparc, we will never know if the pallets (or wooden pallet like structures, or whatever they were) are still out there or not. While we applaud your efforts to solve this mystery, you may never find them. Sparc is the true key to finding the answer, as well as the instigator.

 

[RobertBrown]

You found me out. I am sparc. tkappeler and sparc are the same person. Notice how i cannot post both at the same time?
kidding.

I have not posted because I neither have paid the ultimate price nor a slacker nor ADD. Squirrel!!! I have in fact been driving through NJ trying to find the pallets that sparc "claims" were placed in the field. I am beginning to think HE placed them there himself to see how far we would ... Squirrel!!

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Is he saying squirrels placed the pallets?
I think that is what he just intimated. Yep! Giant.....alien.....tree dwelling rodents

 

[smstonypoint]

Ahh, but it should be obvious to a learned man such as yourself... The pallets themselves are the true subject of this investigation. I think by ruling out the inverted V and insisting upon the triangle theory, you close off various avenues of investigation. Rather, I think you should consider the ground as possibly a convenient surface on which the inverted V formations be placed.

Sir,

I am the last person who would discourage scientific inquiry. The fact that the pallets constitute two sides of a triangle does not constitute a theory, but rather an empirical observation that must be accounted for by a scientific theory. That fact would be irrelevant if we observed the inverted V pallet formation with no base. That evidence has not been forthcoming.

The fact that a pictogram depicts an inverted V pattern is interesting, However, correlation does not prove causation.

Steve

 

[dragoneggs]

Sir,

I am the last person who would discourage scientific inquiry. The fact that the pallets constitute two sides of a triangle does not constitute a theory, but rather an empirical observation that must be accounted for by a scientific theory. That fact would be irrelevant if we observed the inverted V pallet formation with no base. That evidence has not been forthcoming.

The fact that a pictogram depicts an inverted V pattern is interesting, However, correlation does not prove causation.

Steve

I have yet to gravitate toward any specific faction... as that would be evidentially premature. I do concur with Steve with respect to the lack of proof presented of an inverted V pallet formation NOT requiring a foundation.

Beyond that... the newly concocted 'X' faction borders on ridiculous. Are we to believe that only half of the formation is visible and it is the half that requires a base? Carrying that forward, then we are to accept the invisible part is just the other 'half' and not much more? Please, please, let's stick to knowns. :detective:

 

[smstonypoint]

I have not posted because I neither have paid the ultimate price nor a slacker nor ADD. Squirrel!!! I have in fact been driving through NJ trying to find the pallets that sparc "claims" were placed in the field. I am beginning to think HE placed them there himself to see how far we would ... Squirrel!!

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Despite your protestations to the contrary, I fear that your ADD may be slowing our progress toward obtaining a solution to this scientific problem.

I take it that the attachment reflects your claim for mileage reimbursement. Please file your claim with our bursar, James.

Steve

 

[smstonypoint]

But the "base" extends beyond the triangle. Perhaps what is near but not under the triangle should not be ignored due to our fixation on only the obvious traingle portion of the pattern.

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Bruce

This is an interesting idea that deserves further inquiry -- that's truly thinking outside the triangle.

Steve