Prepping

[sailorman]

If anyone needs medicines regularly, Stock pile a supply . Bad to run out of death preventing meds .

 

[EddieWalker]

You guys have me wondering about medicines. My girlfriend is a Nurse and we have a drawer full of stuff here, but she's a city girl just learning about the outdoors and might not be thinking of what we should have here. Is there a book that you would recommend?

Eddie

 

[Lloyd_E]

Isn't a thimble how a stovepipe is passed through a wall? A wall that's combustible... Got a better idea? I do plan to set it up and test it, then tear down and store away. I asked too late that a glycol mix be used for my in-floor. The plumber assured me it wasn't needed... like I didn't know what I was talking about. So, abandon the house and have it destroid, or run a well researched stovepipe through a temp opening.

" Isn't a thimble how a stovepipe is passed through a wall? A wall that's combustible..." A proper selkirk "thimble" will cost you around $350. I would hate to see you loose the house... I know it is a cost but why can't you install a stove/safe pipe and be done with it? The glycol mix can be redone anytime. My furnace tech said it should be replaced every fives years... I did mine after 15 years... didn't know. He tested it and there was zero glycol in the system. If was $600 to redo but knowing now how they did it - it could be done for much cheaper. I am surprised the plumber didn't put any in... scary ... really.

Good post...

 

[nwltruck]

On the first aid front, don't forget Tylenol and ibuprofen. Salt and other spices that don't spoil, Powdered milk, powdered egg. I've seen people over think it and miss the small stuff that would be more useful. Yes cheap liquor is better than most things you would think of as a bartering item.

 

[/pine]

Take what nature gives you...

If there are any native wild fruit and or nut trees in your locale (likewise with berries etc...)...learn to take advantage of what you can harvest before the wildlife beats you to whatever...

Wild fruit and berry preserves and jellies etc...freeze very well...
Some nuts keep very well (years) if kept properly...

keep a log or journal of what you harvest and make note of seasons/years of min. and max. produce found... either a hard copy log/journal or something like a spreadsheet etc. will do...and can easily be converted into personal database once enough data is recorded...
...this is also a good way to save stored food expiration dates...with a simple script a PC will generate an email and or a pop up window to alert you when recorded dates are reached or a defined period of time prior...

 

[randy41]

some people i know are preppers. they tried draft horses for a while. you know, what will you do when there's no more fuel? anyway, they had a water ram to supply their water. seems like if you've got the flow to use one it would be pretty useful to have.

 

[nwltruck]

A 22lr with practice is good for more than small game. A well placed shot at a deer or hog will bring them down. You have to remember that people kill large animals with arrows. Patience and practice go along way. 22lr is also very easy to stock pile.

A book on local native wild edibles is a good idea, I myself have been looking for one for my area. From what I've seen in some books you would be surprised at what is growing in the ditch in front of your house. Some books even give recipes.

It is also reasonable to keep things on hand to make structural repairs on your house. If your stranded in a storm a broke window or roof could be a major problem.

 

[Egon]

Just do what many rural folks of only 70/80 years ago did. Lived off grid, supplied almost all their own food and winter would see them isolated or using horse power for leaving the farm.

 

[AlanB]

Hi Folks, Have not posted much in a bit.
I recommend Survival Podcast Jack Spirko, rational, knowledgeable, easy to understand and practical. poke around there, a tremendous amount of information on getting started.

Added on edit, and you will get it from the Survival podcast, look at "Permaculture" and ""food forest"

Eddie, Dr. Bones and Nurse Amy
Survival Medicine with Dr Bones & Nurse Amy | Doom and Bloom (TM)

Patriot Nurse Medical Preparedness Education

Ditch medicine Ditch Medicine: Advanced Field Procedures For Emergencies: Hugh Coffee: 9781581603903: Amazon.com: Books
(Watch your mailbox)

A visit over and we can line up a day / half day with some folks that do this for a living in a special kind of way.

Ps. should start digging the big pond next weekend.

 

[AlanB]

And in the Permaculture vein

rocket stove mass heater

Also look up a pocket rocket for temporary heat.

May not work for you, but knowledge is priceless.

 

[LJH]

What AlanB says.

The Survival Podcast & Forum is a PhD in prepping and survival for urban, rural and everyone in between.

At first I was put off by the "Survival" bit, having associated the word with the stereotypical, camo-clad whackjobs one reads about but nothing could be further from the case. Jack can be a bit strident when he gets on a rant, but his mind is razor-sharp with a gift for sifting through the BS we're fed by the main stream media. Also, TSP forum has a ZERO TOLERANCE policy for race or religion bashing. It is welcoming to all and the odd White Supremacist who wanders in gets banned before they know what's hit them.

PERMACULTURE

At risk of sounding like a whackjob myself, I believe it can save the World, no chit. Hit up YouTube for anything Geoff Lawton and take a look.

 

[ttriff]

You guys have me wondering about medicines. My girlfriend is a Nurse and we have a drawer full of stuff here, but she's a city girl just learning about the outdoors and might not be thinking of what we should have here. Is there a book that you would recommend?

Eddie

Start with these

"American Medical Association Handbook of First Aid and Emergency Care"
"Where There Is No Doctor" by David Werner
"The Survival Medicine Handbook: A Guide for When Help is Not on the Way" by Joseph Alton ($pendy but better than the "Dr Bones" book Alton wrote)

 

[dmccarty]

I had the opportunity, in my younger days, to spend a winter in Salt Lake City. Most of the people I met and/or worked with were LDS (Mormon). I soon learned that the 3 month food supply regimen was a common thing amongst them. Don't know if it was a prerequisite or not, but they all practiced it. I would suggest if you're really interested in a 3 month survival thing, that you find a LDS member in your area, and politely ask him to explain what he does. I think you'll be quite pleased with the results. (I am not LDS, or pushing any religion, just an interesting experience).

TBN has these planning for worst case situations discussions a few times a year. After one TBN discussion, I started researching how to store food for long periods of time. One item that would be cheap and stores well in 5 gallon buckets is whole grain. Whole grain is also kinda cheap. BUT, with whole grain you need a grinder. Well, as always seems to be the case, there are cheap grinders and what you really want. A powered grinder is not useful in the situation we are discussing so one needs a manual grinder. Some of the grinders I found could be connected to motors via belts if you wanted to do so but the grinders were not cheap.

During the cool season I make whole GRAIN bread. It is amazing to us how filling whole GRAIN bread is compared to that white bread stuff. We will eat a bowl of soup, usually a bean soup, and have a slice or two of whole GRAIN bread and be completely full. No wonder people used to live off of this real bread.

Anyway, when I was looking at grinders and suppliers of grain, I found a company in NC bulk ordered grain and would drive it basically along I40 dropping off the load here and there. They might have been Mormons but I can't remember at this point. I do remember reading that the Mormons have stores selling products for long term storage and it seemed like there was one in the Greensboro or maybe Winston-Salem area of NC. I thought the Mormons are supposed to keep supplies for one or two years which is why they have the stores.

After one of the TBN conversations a few years ago, I started looking at supplies and was shocked to see that Amazon is selling food and containers to store food for long periods of time. Sportsmans Guide/Cheaper than Dirt has been selling more expensive freeze dried/MRE type of supplies in 1, 3, 6, 9, and 12 month quantities for years. There is a big enough demand out there for these materials for these retail outlets to serve and it has been going on for quite a few years at this point.

Later,
Dan

 

[dmccarty]

Start with these

"American Medical Association Handbook of First Aid and Emergency Care"
"Where There Is No Doctor" by David Werner
"The Survival Medicine Handbook: A Guide for When Help is Not on the Way" by Joseph Alton ($pendy but better than the "Dr Bones" book Alton wrote)

I also have some Outdoor survival books I have read over the years as well as first aid books. Books/documents on canning and food saving are important too. Most of the Foxfire books, especially the early books that talk about preserving meat and making soap are super important. Many pre industrial life skills that were in my great grandparent generation are all but lost. Foxfire Complete Collection Books 1 Through 12: George P. Reynolds, Eliot Wigginton, Foxfire Fund: Amazon.com: Books

I was at the wife's family farm yesterday and noticed some "old" books on the book shelves so I pulled one down and started reading. I want those books even though they were from the 1950s. One was on animal diseases and treatment which was really interesting. The other were on plants, crops, seeds and pest management. Old books but if you don't have access to the latest and greatest treatments.... Some of these books might be in the public domain and real cheap to buy. The animal book was published by the US government.

Later,
Dan

 

[houstonscott]

10-80-10, KTF.

HS

 

[buickanddeere]

Trick is that nobody sees or hears that you have food, fuel or anything else. When desperate their lives will be worth more than yours.
So no visible lights, no generator sounds and no aroma of cooking food.