BX2370 vs. BX2670

[2Bad4u]

Hey Guys,

We just purchased a 1 acre waterfront lot in PEI to build our retirement home. The lot has a very gentle slope which runs down to the water - it's not even noticeable. The average annual snowfall is 11 feet, it's usually heavy, and it sticks around for a long time. I'll be using the tractor to: a) blow the snow, b) mow the grass, and c) get a FEL to landscape the property.

Given the above do you think that I should get the 2370 or the 2670?

If it wasn't for the snow blowing activities I would be comfortable getting the 2370. Should I be looking at getting the 2670 for it's additional power? The price difference in Canada between the two models is $1,200. I've read too many threads here where people bought too small a tractor and they ended up trading it in for a larger or more powerful model. I have the budget to buy the 2670 if needed. This will be my first tractor.

What are your thoughts?

Cheers!
-- Bill --

 

[w900b]

I bought a 2360 and Glad I did. I save a thousand dollars a year on insurance. As long as the tractor is under 25 hp it can be covered under house insurance. 25 hp 1150.00 dollars per year insurance. 23 hp 90.00 per year under house insurance. Talk to your house insurance company.

 

[repair1]

Save your money and go with the BX2370. It will have more than enough power, actually more power than traction. We mow 2 acres with our BX2360, use the loader more than I thought we would and clear the snow off a 300' driveway. Our average seasonal snow fall is 120" of lake effect snow that the 50" rear mounted Allied blower handles with no problem. Use the money you save for a box blade or rake or ? to help with your landscaping. Good luck and have fun!

 

[rbarker]

Welcome to the forums. I have a BX25 which is essentially a BX2370 with a back hoe. It has plenty of power for snow blowing as you can see by the pictures. This is about a 20" snowfall.







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[George the Beagle]

I vote for the 2370. I have an 1860 and it has all the power I need. If they come out with a 2970 folks will worry that the 2670 doesn't have enough power. Plus, I don't think you'll be blowing that much snow on PEI. BTW, congratulations on your land purchase...PEI is a beautiful place.

 

[check]

I vote for the 2370. I have an 1860 and it has all the power I need. If they come out with a 2970 folks will worry that the 2670 doesn't have enough power. Plus, I don't think you'll be blowing that much snow on PEI. BTW, congratulations on your land purchase...PEI is a beautiful place.

If you were building a new home, then you are going to want to excavate for your basement. For that, the BX 25D would work out great, unless you have large rocks in your soil, or you want to do it fast. Also, the backhoe on the BX 25D will be great for digging trenches for your waterlines etc.

 

[radioman]

with the diesel engines in these BX's you most likely will not need the extra power esp. when you never had a tractor before. What you describe, either tractors will be just fine and they are soooo similar you most likely will not have any regrets having one over the other. Just going new and the lastest is all you need to feel good about purchase. Funny thing is - the BX's don't go out of style like computer/tablets does. :thumbsup:

 

[BXinNH]

I have to concur with everyone else. My BX24 runs out of traction long before it runs out of horsepower. I don't think you'll miss the few extra HP. Maybe consider putting the extra money into the BX25 instead. Backhoes are awfully nice to have.

Matt.

 

[2Bad4u]

I bought a 2360 and Glad I did. I save a thousand dollars a year on insurance. As long as the tractor is under 25 hp it can be covered under house insurance. 25 hp 1150.00 dollars per year insurance. 23 hp 90.00 per year under house insurance. Talk to your house insurance company.

Excellant point about the insurance! Something that I didn't even consider when comparing the two.

Save your money and go with the BX2370. It will have more than enough power, actually more power than traction. We mow 2 acres with our BX2360, use the loader more than I thought we would and clear the snow off a 300' driveway. Our average seasonal snow fall is 120" of lake effect snow that the 50" rear mounted Allied blower handles with no problem. Use the money you save for a box blade or rake or ? to help with your landscaping. Good luck and have fun!

One of the properties that we were looking at would have needed a 600-650' driveway to get to where the house would have been built. The lot that we purchased will probably end up with a 100' driveway. Glad to hear your that your BX is working out well for you.

Welcome to the forums. I have a BX25 which is essentially a BX2370 with a back hoe. It has plenty of power for snow blowing as you can see by the pictures. This is about a 20" snowfall.

It's fairly common to receive 20" of wet heavy snow in PEI. It looks pretty impressive the way its throwing that snow. Thanks for the welcome.

I vote for the 2370. I have an 1860 and it has all the power I need. If they come out with a 2970 folks will worry that the 2670 doesn't have enough power. Plus, I don't think you'll be blowing that much snow on PEI. BTW, congratulations on your land purchase...PEI is a beautiful place.

I had a good chuckle when reading your post. If Kubota did have a 2970 my subject line would have read "BX2670 vs. BX2970". And yes PEI is beautiful - a real hidden gem.

If you were building a new home, then you are going to want to excavate for your basement. For that, the BX 25D would work out great, unless you have large rocks in your soil, or you want to do it fast. Also, the backhoe on the BX 25D will be great for digging trenches for your waterlines etc.

We are going to be putting in an ICF foundation and plan on having a 9' to 10' basement because of the home theatre. Prior to purchasing the property our builder had someone come buy with a huge Case tractor with a backhoe to check the waterline. He went down 7.5' and fortunately it was bone dry. I don't believe that rocks will be the problem, it's the time and depth that makes me believe that hiring him to dig the foundation is the right way to go.

with the diesel engines in these BX's you most likely will not need the extra power esp. when you never had a tractor before. What you describe, either tractors will be just fine and they are soooo similar you most likely will not have any regrets having one over the other. Just going new and the lastest is all you need to feel good about purchase. Funny thing is - the BX's don't go out of style like computer/tablets does. :thumbsup:

Purchasing a new tractor will pretty much guarantee me a lifetime of use and enjoyment. That's why I didn't want to have any doubts as to rightsizing the tractor.

I have to concur with everyone else. My BX24 runs out of traction long before it runs out of horsepower. I don't think you'll miss the few extra HP. Maybe consider putting the extra money into the BX25 instead. Backhoes are awfully nice to have.

Matt.

I have to admit that having a backhoe would be nice to have. Perhaps in the future when we begin all of the landscaping.

Thanks for EVERYONE'S input!!! I now feel confidant moving forward with the BX2370.

Cheers!
-- Bill --

 

[check]

I have to concur with everyone else. My BX24 runs out of traction long before it runs out of horsepower. I don't think you'll miss the few extra HP. Maybe consider putting the extra money into the BX25 instead. Backhoes are awfully nice to have.

Matt.

Plus the BX25's have an extra steel frame member running from front to back. A dealer also told me the BX25's are are also made tougher (for e.g., construction work), and the new BX25D's now have a quick attach option for the FEL so you can quickly detach the bucket and attach a front plow or forks or whatever. With a plow on the front you may even be able to avoid the hassle (and expense) of buying a snow blower and attaching it each winter, which is a bit of an operation (front or back) since you need to use a PTO. I myself use the rear mounted blower one on my BX25, since it is much tougher than the front-mounted model, was cheaper to buy, attaches more easily, and leaves the FEL on for moving big piles of snow. (I plow the small stuff with my ATV plow.)

The disadvantage of the rear blower, of course, is that you have to plow looking backwards, but there are good discussions on TBN about rear cameras and mirrors that you can use if you are worried about getting a crick in your neck from looking backwards while plowing. At the same time, however, you only have to attach the rear blower once to the 3-pt. hitch each season, after taking off the backhoe for the winter. (The backhoe comes off in just about a minute - it's real easy to remove.)

A few thoughts for you.:thumbsup:

 

[2Bad4u]

Plus the BX25's have an extra steel frame member running from front to back. A dealer also told me the BX25's are are also made tougher (for e.g., construction work), and the new BX25D's now have a quick attach option for the FEL so you can quickly detach the bucket and attach a front plow or forks or whatever. With a plow on the front you may even be able to avoid the hassle (and expense) of buying a snow blower and attaching it each winter, which is a bit of an operation (front or back) since you need to use a PTO. I myself use the rear mounted blower one on my BX25, since it is much tougher than the front-mounted model, was cheaper to buy, attaches more easily, and leaves the FEL on for moving big piles of snow. (I plow the small stuff with my ATV plow.)

The disadvantage of the rear blower, of course, is that you have to plow looking backwards, but there are good discussions on TBN about rear cameras and mirrors that you can use if you are worried about getting a crick in your neck from looking backwards while plowing. At the same time, however, you only have to attach the rear blower once to the 3-pt. hitch each season, after taking off the backhoe for the winter. (The backhoe comes off in just about a minute - it's real easy to remove.)

A few thoughts for you.:thumbsup:

It's a quick attach front snow blower for me. At 58 I'm just too old to be looking over my shoulder. That being said, some of the arguments that you've made do have merit.

-- Bill --

 

[BXinNH]

If you are considering the backhoe in the future, I would look at the BX25. It comes with the BH, and is otherwise pretty much the same tractor as the BX2370. It may be cheaper and easier to buy the backhoe now than to try to find one down the road. Just a thought.

Matt.

 

[JOHNTHOMAS]

I've owned a few BXs. BX2200, BX1500, BX2350, BX2660, BX25 and some Bs.
Between the BX23?? and BX26?? the seat used to be better on the 26 HP and the 26HP engine wasn't quite as smooth as the 23HP like in the BX23?? and BX25. For your needs either one will do the job but if a BH is in your future and you can swing it, get the BX25, my favorite all around Kubota tractor.

 

[uglyboywith11fingers]

It's a quick attach front snow blower for me. At 58 I'm just too old to be looking over my shoulder. That being said, some of the arguments that you've made do have merit.

-- Bill --

probably good that you've decided on a front blower with that heavy wet snow in PEI.
I have a 3PT B2781 for my BX24... since it runs off the rear pto, the max speed of the impeller is 540 rpm. I find that with heavy wet snow, my chute blocks up frequently, I suspect because of the low speed of the snow going up the chute. Even dry snow doesn't throw more than 15 feet or so. I often revert to the old walk-behind snowblower when the snow is wet.
I think the front mount blowers have an impeller speed of 800 or 900 rpm, using a gearbox to reduce the mid rpm from 2500.

Pete

 

[94BULLITT]

You could step up to a B2620.

 

[dragoneggs]

Welcome to the forums. I have a BX25 which is essentially a BX2370 with a back hoe. It has plenty of power for snow blowing as you can see by the pictures. This is about a 20" snowfall.

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Nice pics Bob and very convincing!

I have to concur with everyone else. My BX24 runs out of traction long before it runs out of horsepower. I don't think you'll miss the few extra HP. Maybe consider putting the extra money into the BX25 instead. Backhoes are awfully nice to have.

Matt.

I am biased purchasing a BX25D. Get the BH. I have surprised myself on how useful it is. A great counterweight too!

If you are considering the backhoe in the future, I would look at the BX25. It comes with the BH, and is otherwise pretty much the same tractor as the BX2370. It may be cheaper and easier to buy the backhoe now than to try to find one down the road. Just a thought.

Matt.

Agreed. Your challenge seems a bit more tame than mine as I am doing a lot of work on steep slopes which I couldn't do without the BH. I am thinking the power of the BX23 will be plenty enough vs. the 26. As already mentioned, it is a traction issue not power.

 

[dragoneggs]

You could step up to a B2620.

With all due respect to Roger who I truly admire here on TBN, I don't see the B series is needed on 1 acre unless you are doing something extreme. I think I am doing about as much as anyone could already on my steep sloped 1.5acre already with my BX.

 

[2Bad4u]

To all those who suggested getting a BH. I considered getting one but I just can not justify getting one - at least not at the beginning. Perhaps this thinking is just being too naive. I also don't relish the thought of having to store the implement when its not in use. Costs also come somewhat into consideration but that is not the main driver. Perhaps a box blade would prove to be more useful.

Again, keep in mind that this is coming from someone who has NO experience with tractors - including the smaller lawn and garden variety.

-- Bill --

 

[dodge man]

I own a BX2350 and there are times I wish I had a backhoe. Do I need it, no. Do I want it, YES. Every time I go to the local Kubota dealer, I stop and stare at them. If you think you NEED one, now is the time to do it.

 

[2Bad4u]

With all due respect to Roger who I truly admire here on TBN, I don't see the B series is needed on 1 acre unless you are doing something extreme. I think I am doing about as much as anyone could already on my steep sloped 1.5acre already with my BX.

I haven't been on the forum very long, but in this short period of time I've learned to respect Roger's comments.

Perhaps Roger could expand upon what he said.

-- Bill --