How much HP for a 12' disk?

[kevin37b]

No more than you are going to use them , buy both of them . When one falls apart , go get the other one . Call the scrap man and go shopping again .

 

[captjack]

i have the #37 in a 12ft and I pull it with a jd 5400 2wd its 68 hp I can pull it with a 14 ft packer behind it. It does a crappy job in a hay field. I grow teff hay and plant every year. the disk and packer dont leave a smooth field. If you do use this set up you will need to use another implement to level ground or you will have a mess of a hayfield. just my .02

 

[TnWV]

i have the #37 in a 12ft and I pull it with a jd 5400 2wd its 68 hp I can pull it with a 14 ft packer behind it. It does a crappy job in a hay field. I grow teff hay and plant every year. the disk and packer dont leave a smooth field. If you do use this set up you will need to use another implement to level ground or you will have a mess of a hayfield. just my .02

That is good info to know. It sounds as if the 37 may not be a good disc for our use if this is the case. Unless it is common, i don't think we want to have to use a separate implement to smooth after discing. Again, I have no experience using large disks outside of a 3p style on a garden. Is there any specific models/type of disc you could suggest that would leave a smoother surface appropriate for planting hay?

Thanks

 

[wolftree]

TnWV,

I doubt that you find another brand or style disk that will do a marked difference by itself, but attaching a spike tooth or chain link fence like drag harrow behind the disk harrow will greatly smooth out the soil. You are not talking thousand or even hundreds of acres, disk a second time if needed, using the drag/chain link only on the second disking.

I say go for the IH 37 disks.

 

[AKfish]

TnWV,

I doubt that you find another brand or style disk that will do a marked difference by itself, but attaching a spike tooth or chain link fence like drag harrow behind the disk harrow will greatly smooth out the soil. You are not talking thousand or even hundreds of acres, disk a second time if needed, using the drag/chain link only on the second disking.

I say go for the IH 37 disks.

Those discs in the pics are light duty discs, anyway. Probably around 40lbs/disc. It'll take 4-6 passes through the field to get the sod clumps broken down unless you're working pretty dry ground to begin with.

You'd want to get the field worked up a few times before using a drag. If it's too clumpy the drag will just ball up and drop wads here and there.

Either of your tractor's shouldn't have a problem with those discs.... unless the field is too wet!

Note the open frame with plated bottoms. You can add weight there and get the blades to cut better if needed.

Good luck.

AKfish

 

[flusher]

My wheel disc is a Minneapolis Moline KA-1300 tandem design (4 axles, 12 pans (20" size) per axle, 13-ft wide). Made by Krause. Bought it from my tractor guy ($600 including delivery).

I can pull it with my 2008 Mahindra 5525 (55 hp engine, don't know the drawbar hp) in dry soil. But it bogs down fast in damp soil.

So I cut it down to about 8 ft wide (7 pans per axle) so the 5525 can handle it in softer soil.



Your tractors ought to be able to handle your 12-ft disc OK.

Good luck.

 

[TnWV]

TnWV,

I doubt that you find another brand or style disk that will do a marked difference by itself, but attaching a spike tooth or chain link fence like drag harrow behind the disk harrow will greatly smooth out the soil. You are not talking thousand or even hundreds of acres, disk a second time if needed, using the drag/chain link only on the second disking.

I say go for the IH 37 disks.

I have 2 8'-10' chain harrows that i used to smooth my yard before seeding that could easily be attached to the disc or pulled separately after discing. I figured we would have to disc multiple times, probably different directions, especially on the ground that will be plowed.

 

[TnWV]

My wheel disc is a Minneapolis Moline KA-1300 tandem design (4 axles, 12 pans (20" size) per axle, 13-ft wide). Made by Krause. Bought it from my tractor guy ($600 including delivery).

I can pull it with my 2008 Mahindra 5525 (55 hp engine, don't know the drawbar hp) in dry soil. But it bogs down fast in damp soil.

So I cut it down to about 8 ft wide (7 pans per axle) so the 5525 can handle it in softer soil.

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Your tractors ought to be able to handle your 12-ft disc OK.

Good luck.

If I could find a disc in as good of shape as yours for $600, I would buy it without question. We will have atleast that much in one of the ones we looked at after putting alot of work into it. There just isn't lot of good used equipment around here, at least not that is advertised. It seems that I have to go west of Cincinnati, or north of Columbus to find any kind of a deal on anything. I've been looking for a good 5' tiller(to run on my MF150) and a big heavy box blade for my Zetor for over a year and nothing has come up that was worth the asking price. I have finally decided to just buy a new king kutter tiller, and will continue the box blade search.

 

[DJ54]

I use the "frost seeding" method for my Rye grass. I prep the field in Oct. so the freeze/thaw cycles mellow the dirt back out. But then my field is pretty flat, but enough grade to drain well, so no erosion worries. You may want to check it out, and see if it will work for you. Too late for this year, but maybe next..?? I've had great results so far.
Going with some Tuukka Timothy this spring, but using a slit seeder for that, as it's a warm weather grass. Hopefully it won't tear things up too bad...

 

[TnWV]

I use the "frost seeding" method for my Rye grass. I prep the field in Oct. so the freeze/thaw cycles mellow the dirt back out. But then my field is pretty flat, but enough grade to drain well, so no erosion worries. You may want to check it out, and see if it will work for you. Too late for this year, but maybe next..?? I've had great results so far.
Going with some Tuukka Timothy this spring, but using a slit seeder for that, as it's a warm weather grass. Hopefully it won't tear things up too bad...

I will look into that, I believe the idea was to disc and reseed after second cut anyway. I've cut, ted, racked, and bailed the last few years, but I've never been involved with the plow, disk, seed process, so I'm lost on what my in-laws are trying to do and trying to learn as much as I can. I didn't really realize it was, a good idea to disc without plowing. Figured it would tear up the field to the point of needing completely redone. The fields look nice and produce pretty well as is, but again I'm not an expert on this stuff.

 

[txdon]

I just looked in my owners manual and it said max 84" wide and 880 lbs. for a disc harrow. I have a 50 hp Kubota.

 

[RedNeckRacin]

I'll add two cents into the pot. MY FIL bought a 16' john deere transport disc and I got the opportunity to play with it in some freshly plowed ground. I didn't quite have enough adjustment in the hitch to get it to pull level, but my 5083 would pull it although it was slower than I wanted to be going. I was pulling dirt up over the axle on the pans so I have some more tweaking to do, but It wasn't impossible. I did have to keep my hand on the hydraulics to keep from burying the tractor a couple times though, especially up hill in the soft stuff.

I think he paid over 1k for that 16' so i would def think you can't go wrong for $600. If nothing else, re-sell/scrap it and try another one. Make sure your tires are loaded, air pressure set correctly and some front ballast. That can make a huge difference in tractor pulling ability.

 

[Lineman North Florida]

Down here in my neck of the woods if you gang a 12' harrow where it is cutting anything but straight 5hp per foot would be pushing it, as someone else already stated people look at it differently, some think that if they are scratching the surface that they are harrowing.

 

[daybreak1998]

Howdy,
For a proper disc usage, you need more tractor and HP for a 12' disc.
I run a sunflower 1211 disc behind a JD6430 prem. It takes everything the tractor has. Then again, I am not scratching the surface. Heavy clay type soil, with the disc up to the gangs.

Changing hay type in the field?
spray kill, wait 6 weeks, spray kill, then no-till drill your seed. done

 

[AKfish]

I run a sunflower 1211 disc behind a JD6430 prem. It takes everything the tractor has. Then again, I am not scratching the surface. Heavy clay type soil, with the disc up to the gangs.

Changing hay type in the field?
spray kill, wait 6 weeks, spray kill, then no-till drill your seed. done

How much that disc weigh? Notched blades, 24"? I've got sandy loam soil - heavy on the sand... If that 16' didn't weigh more than about 3,000lbs - I'd hook to it with my 5075M up here in my fields - when dry!

Not in a heavy clay field... though!

I tried to convince my neighbor that she could re-establish their timothy fields with a Roundup treatment. She acted like I'd cussed her mother!! Didn't want no poison on her ground! Ok... ok.

AKfish

 

[AKfish]

I run a sunflower 1211 disc behind a JD6430 prem. It takes everything the tractor has. Then again, I am not scratching the surface. Heavy clay type soil, with the disc up to the gangs.

Heaviest disc harrow I'd ever seen was a Rome disk plow. They come in lot's of different configurations but that's what's commonly found on highway road jobs. The lighter ones they pull with 530hp 9000 series and the ones with some "heft" they hitch 'em to the D-10's.

AKfish

 

[MtnViewRanch]

Heaviest disc harrow I'd ever seen was a Rome disk plow. They come in lot's of different configurations but that's what's commonly found on highway road jobs. The lighter ones they pull with 530hp 9000 series and the ones with some "heft" they hitch 'em to the D-10's.

AKfish

Come on now, I can pull one of those with my 16hp Sears garden tractor. :laughing:

This is one of my favorite units.

 

[Egon]

Bigger Disk's?

Check out one of these. :thumbsup:

Canadian eh!




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[Gary Fowler]

We used to have some IH 37 disc harrows that we used after plowing with the heavy discs(IH 500 series) to smooth and pulverize. They are pretty good disc, not really light weight but no where near a heavy breaking disc like the 500 series. It would take 100+ HP to pull a 14 foot IH 500 series in heavy soil. I think the 37 would work well for breaking up a pasture, might take 2 or more passes if you are wanting to kill everything and a spiked tooth harrow pulled over the ground after plowing would break up any sod/clods. Discs pull easier in the fall than in the spring so if you pulled it OK in the fall , you may have to carry it some in the spring doing the same chore.

 

[D7E]

We use these wischeck discs , 26ft,30in blades and on 22.5 truck wheels If it's wet 300hp really struggles disking corn stalks . (Not my video just same discs)

Wishek Disc from Flaman - YouTube