6.0 Powerstroke letter

[Hay Dude]

I contacted a lawyer before I got the letter. Had an 06. Replaced the turbo and egr at 70000 miles. Ford offered 500.00 as a settlement. I held out for a whopping 750.00. A far cry from the 2500.00 it took to replace the turbo. Screw ford. They should be ashamed of themselves for the 6.0. I went to the dealer and they offered 14,000.00 trade in. I went to dodge and they gave me 18,000.00. Friggin ford piece of garbage. Never again. Contact the lawyer and get to ford like they got to you. Most important is never buy a ford again

It doesn't get any better with the 6.4l either. Mines going in for what looks like emissions problems. I'll find out when I give it to them exactly what the problem is this time around. I can't believe I actually went back after the 6l for another round of punishment with the 6.4l. Now they're threatening to not extend my warranty. If they don't, I'm stuck with a truck that I bet costs me $8,000 in repairs out of warranty. Can't do it, but can't afford a new truck to replace it either. It really sucks when these trucks fail miserably in a lousy business environment and you have to fork money out to fix them. One month of warranty left.
I just met with another farmer across the bridge from me. He had 3 6L fords. First one had the typical 6l problems and a rear vibration they could not get rid of. They ended up buying that truck back, so he got an 06 replacement. '06 and his '07 have both had cabs removed, heads pulled, turbos replaced. He got so disgusted he sold both trucks at a loss and bought an Isuzu cab over and he said he loves it. Uses a 1/2 ton gas as an everyday driver and Isuzu for farm stuff.

 

[Hay Dude]

I figured this thread would deteriorate into a bash. News flash: they've all made a lemon here & there and most everyone has had a not so pleasant experience with one manufacturer or another.

I won't bash, I will simply share my experiences without ad homonym attacks. I wish those who have not experienced the pain and financial loss could be a bit more understanding what it's like to drive a loaner focus for weeks at a time trying to make a living.
If you really think the other manufacturers made trucks with as many warranty claims as these 6l trucks, you are uninformed.

 

[Soundguy]

that's why i won't stand in line to buy a new diesel. I want to see what happens 5ys down the road..e tc.

 

[Hay Dude]

that's why i won't stand in line to buy a new diesel. I want to see what happens 5ys down the road..e tc.

Which is almost impossible with ford since they introduce a new diesel about every 4-5 years on average since 2000.

 

[Soundguy]

Which is almost impossible with ford since they introduce a new diesel about every 4-5 years on average since 2000.

i don't see how that makes it impossible? Unlss you are using some kind of new math.

if a machine comes out.. and I wait 4-5 ys.. it is not precluded just because ANOTHER new model might be out in that time. all the previous model do not disapear fromthe face of the planet.

 

[Dmace]

i don't see how that makes it impossible? Unlss you are using some kind of new math.

if a machine comes out.. and I wait 4-5 ys.. it is not precluded just because ANOTHER new model might be out in that time. all the previous model do not disapear fromthe face of the planet.

What he's saying is a new diesel comes out in 2003 (6.0), you wait 4 years and find it's a lemon. Then Ford releases a another new diesel (6.4) and you wait another 4 years to find out it's STILL crap just as Ford releases ANOTHER new diesel (6.7). Wait 4 more years and what's gonna happen? Ford gonna release a new diesel when this one fails... :laughing:

 

[Soundguy]

What he's saying is a new diesel comes out in 2003 (6.0), you wait 4 years and find it's a lemon. Then Ford releases a another new diesel (6.4) and you wait another 4 years to find out it's STILL crap just as Ford releases ANOTHER new diesel (6.7). Wait 4 more years and what's gonna happen? Ford gonna release a new diesel when this one fails... :laughing:

sounds nice as a story.. but worked out differently.

I owned a dodge gasser. was put into a 04 6.0 at work.. it was fine.. we have a ouple of them. the other had an egr kit.. etc. int he meanwhile.. I deided to get a 7.3. we have one of those at work as well. Never say the need to 'wait' for another. the 7.3's are fine. if I HAD to jump to another diesel right now.. it would likely be another 7.3 and if not ford.. than a dodge 5.9 I like dodge just fine.

 

[Hay Dude]

Why is it every ford diesel runs "fine" once you make modifications to it? Like head studs, egr delete. Oh yeah, no problem, lets pull the federally mandated emissions control system off it, then whole, it runs like a champ. Lol
Might work great for some 20 yr old pimple faced kid living with mom & dad, but not for real world where owner gets a huge fine for removing emmissions system.
I got into it with a kid once a few years back about how great his 6 l was once he put head stud kit and head gaskets on it. I asked him if it was so great why wouldn't ford just do it? I think he's still trying to come up with the answer.
Sound guy, i guess what I was trying to say is that ford doesn't give any diesels a chance. They keep changing them while GM & dodge have changed very little. I think changing diesels at the same rate you change body styles is a bad thing to do. You are right.. A diesel like the 6l can be built for 4 years then abandoned and you can wait to see if you like it after its already been continued. I can tell you right now most guys think used 6l trucks are poison and very few guys want them. I have a 6.4l and nobody is interested in buying it. I'm stuck with a truck that's pretty good with a bad engine that's blowing white smoke and making sounds I've never heard from a Diesel engine before with under 60k miles on it and the dealer agrees, they and I have anally maintained this truck. Mechanic strongly advises me to extend power train warranty because he has seen "numerous 6.4l failures and they are very expensive to fix". He makes no extra money if I buy an extended warranty. He's only looking out for me because he and I are friends. He doesn't want me to waste my hard earned scant extra money on a warranty, but advises me to do so anyway. That tells me a lot.

 

[grsthegreat]

I guess im lucky with mine. its a 2004 and ive had no issues except for a temp sensor in the tranny. other than that it tows like a monster. accelerates up steep hills pulling my 30' horse trailer, and gets fair to middlin mileage considering its hauling the trailer at 70mph up a hill

 

[Diamondpilot]

Its pretty obvious. There are a number of us that have or had 6.0 Ford trucks with little or no issues. Then you have the internet trolls that sit in moms basement looking over the internet that are experts.

Chris

 

[Hay Dude]

Knowing thats directed at me, my mother and father have died. Both painfully and I held their hand in the hospital when they took their last breath. Thanks for reminding me whether you knew that or not. You should consider those things when you make a post like that.
Anything else you want to insinuate? Names (like "troll") you want to call me?
I thought name calling was against the rules?

All I am doing is talking about real life experiences and it seems like everyone who owns a 6L Ford here calls anyone who hashad a bad experience a "troll"?

What kind of rules apply here anyway? Ford guys can call anyone who thinks Ford has somne shortcomings a troll?

 

[WM75Guy]

Like was said before every manufacturer has a problem now and then. Sell it and move on, life is too short. My 03 GMC had the injectors and pump replaced by GM when a number of Duramax diesels had problems. Just turned 180,000 and going strong. Ford has had it's share, no more than anyone else. That's why there are so many manufacturers of trucks, tractors, blue jeans, etc. To each his or hers own.

By the way Dodge, if you can't compete in NASCAR, there's gotta be a problem. :soapbox:

 

[hodge]

Sure, all three manufacturers have had issues to work through. But, to imply that the Cummins or the Duramax have been failures like the 6.0 is rediculous. Neither of them have cost the manufacturer as much in warranty repairs, caused a breakup of the manufacturer and auto maker, or was cause for a class-action lawsuit.
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...6YuIMN4I9A-oY93Ew&sig2=IXGm6IQJlX9WJFLHmviBXg
Or this, straight from a Powerstroke website-
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...=JN2qz8VM3a5muShte83aow&bvm=bv.43287494,d.dmQ

It is real easy to say "just sell it and get something else", when you aren't walking in haydude's shoes. Many folks are financially stuck with the trucks, and can't afford to move either direction. It would be much better if Ford would help them out- look at how Toyota has come to bat for owners of trucks with rotted frames, even if they are not the original owner. Bottom line, Ford put out a truck that cost many people lots of money, and did little to help them out. The issues and failures of the 6.0 are in a class by itself.

 

[Fordman1981]

Like was said before every manufacturer has a problem now and then. Sell it and move on, life is too short. My 03 GMC had the injectors and pump replaced by GM when a number of Duramax diesels had problems. Just turned 180,000 and going strong. Ford has had it's share, no more than anyone else. That's why there are so many manufacturers of trucks, tractors, blue jeans, etc. To each his or hers own.

By the way Dodge, if you can't compete in NASCAR, there's gotta be a problem. :soapbox:

He has stated before selling it and taking such a loss is not an option. I don't want to speak too much for him but it really aggravates me when people say such things as sell it and move on as if its that simple. Don't you think if it was that simple he would? And I agree with hodge comparing the 6.0 problems to cummins and dura max is ridiculous. The 6.0 was by far the worse. I have not spoke up until now but we took a loss on a 6.0 after having problems with it. And I think the quote about NASCAR is just plain silly. That's your way of judging if a manufacture has a quality product? What does NASCAR have to do with trucks in the slightest?

 

[Diamondpilot]

Knowing thats directed at me, my mother and father have died. Both painfully and I held their hand in the hospital when they took their last breath. Thanks for reminding me whether you knew that or not. You should consider those things when you make a post like that.
Anything else you want to insinuate? Names (like "troll") you want to call me?
I thought name calling was against the rules?

All I am doing is talking about real life experiences and it seems like everyone who owns a 6L Ford here calls anyone who hashad a bad experience a "troll"?

What kind of rules apply here anyway? Ford guys can call anyone who thinks Ford has somne shortcomings a troll?

It was not directed at you. Dont be so thin skinned. I was referring to the so called high dollar internet lawyer on YouTube.

Chris

 

[Diamondpilot]

Like was said before every manufacturer has a problem now and then. Sell it and move on, life is too short. My 03 GMC had the injectors and pump replaced by GM when a number of Duramax diesels had problems. Just turned 180,000 and going strong. Ford has had it's share, no more than anyone else. That's why there are so many manufacturers of trucks, tractors, blue jeans, etc. To each his or hers own.

By the way Dodge, if you can't compete in NASCAR, there's gotta be a problem. :soapbox:

I agree. My 05 Dmax was such a POS and cost me so much time and work I sold it after 9 months. I did not like it but was in a position that I could move on. Cost me about $10,000 but getting my F350 has worked great for me.

Chris

 

[Peacock]

Its pretty obvious. There are a number of us that have or had 6.0 Ford trucks with little or no issues. Then you have the internet trolls that sit in moms basement looking over the internet that are experts.

Chris

What about this guy right here that worked at the Ford dealer? Does he also not know? Or the fact that he is still employed by the same dealer group that owns the Ford dealer in town? Or the fact that he eats lunch once a month with the head diesel tech at that dealer?

Lots of guys have been lucky and had little to no problem with their 6.0. Many more have had many costly repairs that shouldn't have happened. I worked on a bunch of them myself. They are part of the reason why I work for a Honda dealer now.

To sit and say that the 6.0 Ford is anything but a failure compared to the DMax and Cummins is absurd.

 

[HK45]

I had an 04 6.0 F350, I loved the power but it was in the shop 33 times. I filed lemon ford gave me $12,500 told me to keep it. Tell this day I'm still shocked they gave me that much and told me to keep it. I ended up trading it in on a DMAX

 

[Diamondpilot]

I am not saying there are not those with issues but I know tons of guys with 6.0 Fords with no issues. Maybe 20% of my friends and customers have had issues and not a single cab off. Oil coolers, EGR valves, turbo.... I have seen cabs off but seen the same at the GM dealer around the corner.

I agree it was never handled right but there are tons of these trucks like mine and the majority of the respondents to this thread that have had good service.

None are without issues. Ford has the 6.0 & 6.4, Dodge with trannys and rust along with bad blocks from Brazil and electrical gremlins. Gm with torsion front end, injectors, glow plugs, freezing urea tanks, sub par interiors, pump rub transfer cases, dripping cooler lines, and early Allison pre 06 1 2 &3 clutches,.


Chris

 

[HK45]

peacock last statement is very true "To sit and say that the 6.0 Ford is anything but a failure compared to the DMax and Cummins is absurd." I was just stating the problem I had with mine, But if I can find it ,I read an article once that said 06 and up had a higher reliability rating then the 7.3. The Article was going off of service records. Anyways my 06 DMax at 20,000 Needed head gaskets