Outrage after NY paper publishes names of gun permit holders

[IslandTractor]

Now there is a racist comment...

You defenders of multiculturalism should lighten up a bit in the New Year. Humor was the only way I got through the Bush/Cheney second term.

 

[TripleR]

And Happy New Year to all my old white guy wingnut with declining influence TBN friends. Keep the faith, you guys may yet find some political viagra to make a comeback. My suggestion for a New Years resolution would be to read a bit more outside your comfort zone echo chamber. Engage with your fellow citizens rather than dismissing every idea you don't like as "lib" or socialist. You'll have more influence on the country in the role of loyal opposition than engaging in bizarre treasonous fantasies. It is a democratic republic, none of us gets their way all the time.

OK, have a happy new year and don't take all this too seriously, we are all just having fun to one extent or the other. I have debated and discussed, but I don't remember denigrating or attacking anyone or engaged in name calling, but if it makes you feel better, have at it.

I'm with you IT, there sure are a lot of grumpy, conservative to a fault, don't change anything, NO NO NO, my way only, you're all going to ****, people.

I mean there is conservative and then there is conservative to a fault. And that fault is seeing any other options. My conservative side blends daily with my liberal side and they don't fight at all.

There is that broad brush again, I thought we were beyond all of that.

 

[RoyJackson]

You defenders of multiculturalism should lighten up a bit in the New Year. Humor was the only way I got through the Bush/Cheney second term.

Still a racist comment...you should be ashamed...

 

[MF1433V]

OK, have a happy new year and don't take all this too seriously, we are all just having fun to one extent or the other. I have debated and discussed, but I don't remember denigrating or attacking anyone or engaged in name calling, but if it makes you feel better, have at it.



There is that broad brush again, I thought we were beyond all of that.

Sorry not meant to offend you, but it really is not such a broad brush. I have had a lot of people just as I described interact with me. I don't agree with Islandtractor on much, but I can agree with him on this. I am not stuck to a certain belief. I can think independently and freely and am not afraid of change. It seems many members are. I didn't mention ANY names...but it is not hard to determine who I mean if you look at the postings since the CT shooting.

I have also interacted with liberals open to some conservative views and conservatives open to some liberal views. But there are some that are so darn stuck, it's sad.

 

[IslandTractor]

Still a racist comment...you should be ashamed...

That is rich coming from the guy who called the President a "little negro". Lighten up Roy

 

[RoyJackson]

That is rich coming from the guy who called the President a "little negro". Lighten up Roy

I wrote that Obama was a negro...the correct term for a person of African descent. You added the derogatory adjective "little".
That's how racist liberals make their points...

 

[IslandTractor]

OK, have a happy new year and don't take all this too seriously, we are all just having fun to one extent or the other. I have debated and discussed, but I don't remember denigrating or attacking anyone or engaged in name calling, but if it makes you feel better, have at it.

There is that broad brush again, I thought we were beyond all of that.

I wish there was a sarcasm font. Of course I am teasing and having fun. I seriously don't agree with many of you but am very well aware that we are all citizens of the same great country.

 

[TripleR]

Sorry not meant to offend you, but it really is not such a broad brush. I have had a lot of people just as I described interact with me. I don't agree with Islandtractor on much, but I can agree with him on this. I am not stuck to a certain belief. I can think independently and freely and am not afraid of change. It seems many members are. I didn't mention ANY names...but it is not hard to determine who I mean if you look at the postings since the CT shooting.

I have also interacted with liberals open to some conservative views and conservatives open to some liberal views. But there are some that are so darn stuck, it's sad.

OK, but you jumped in to agree with Island Tractor who seems as far to the left and as unwilling to "change" as others who are to the right. I personally see nothing wrong with after having given something a lot of thought and made a decision based on that thought and consideration, being strong in your beliefs and "unwilling" to change. I prefer someone who has strong, well thought out positions to someone who blows from one position to the other.

Now there is nothing wrong with this and maybe even good in someone in the formative years of their lives, but if you reach a certain age and have no strong held beliefs then I just don't really understand how that happens.

 

[TripleR]

I wish there was a sarcasm font. Of course I am teasing and having fun. I seriously don't agree with many of you but am very well aware that we are all citizens of the same great country.

Yep, it would come in handy, I have stolen this from another member and use it often, "If everyone is thinking alike, someone isn't thinking." Geoge Patton (I think)

 

[MF1433V]

OK, but you jumped in to agree with Island Tractor who seems as far to the left and as unwilling to "change" as others who are to the right. I personally see nothing wrong with after having given something a lot of thought and made a decision based on that thought and consideration, being strong in your beliefs and "unwilling" to change. I prefer someone who has strong, well thought out positions to someone who blows from one position to the other.

Now there is nothing wrong with this and maybe even good in someone in the formative years of their lives, but if you reach a certain age and have no strong held beliefs then I just don't really understand how that happens.

Yes but I was agreeing with him on a particular post. And that is because I am a Republican who happens to be Agnostic (soon to be Independent), and am having some of the same difficulties with certain ultra-conservative members. I don't have to be far right or left on every topic. If you are all Right Wing on every topic or Left Wing on every topic something is not quite right.

And I do not agree with Islandtractor AT ALL on firearms. But I do agree that some members should step outside of their comfort zone and stop dismissing everything different as "lib" That certainly does happen and I have seen it. I have been called a liberal on this very site because of my agnostic view. And he is also right that the white republican is not as influential on elections as in years past, and that is expected to continue. Not just Islandtractors opinion, it is a widely accepted fact that I also, like it or not, think is true.

So to clairify. My postion is and has been in all my posts:

1. Pro 2nd amendment rights
2. Pro full separation of church and state
3. Embracing others who are different and acceptance of everyone regardless of race, color, gender, sexual orientation, religious beliefs.
4. Pro smaller government and less spending

That is who I am, call me a liberal, conservative, atheist, hateful, whatever. But that is who I am. If anyone thinks I cannot agree with Islandtactor when he has a view I share that is not my issue. This forum has definitely showed me that the Republican party is imploding and I am moving to Independent. The party's biggest issue is the "all or nothing" attitude. If you are a Republican you must stand conservative on every issue or you are a "Liberal". It will be the final nail in the coffin. The Democrats don't do this to their party members which is probably why most Independents caucus with the Democratic Party.