Smart Meter rant- technology going Backwards!

[k0ua]

Try honking the horn.

Oh yeah, that ought to help

 

[techman]

Smart meters are made with all of the mentioned technologies: Sending data over the power lines, RF transmitter to local receivers on poles, or perhaps in a truck or car, and RF which transmits from house to house and finally to a receiver (called mesh network) The choice depends on the power company and is based on the user density, distances of lines and the infrastructure that the power company decides to install.

We have had smart meters for a number of years in eastern PA without controversy or problems. I can go on line and see my power usage on an hourly basis.

paul

 

[kenmac]

The flat fee for water meter is the same as power. $240.00 per yr. I 'm allowed 20,000 gallons per mo for that same amount. I asked the water co if they would lower the flate rate because there;s no way I will ever use 20,000 gallons per mo at that location. They said no. I said to the water board I should just go to the property 1 once per mo and run 20.000 gallons of water on the ground if I pay for 20,000 gallons. They said that that was my choice. It seems like if I was willing to conserve water they would lower my flate rate ,but they say no way

 

[RadarTech]

The flat fee for water meter is the same as power. $240.00 per yr. I 'm allowed 20,000 gallons per mo for that same amount. I asked the water co if they would lower the flate rate because there;s no way I will ever use 20,000 gallons per mo at that location. They said no. I said to the water board I should just go to the property 1 once per mo and run 20.000 gallons of water on the ground if I pay for 20,000 gallons. They said that that was my choice. It seems like if I was willing to conserve water they would lower my flate rate ,but they say no way

Offer to pool companies to fill their fill tanks charge them $500 for 20,000 gallons.

 

[mjarrels]

Things sound of like satalite TV... all or nothing.

mark

 

[Ductape]

Is it just me, or does paying more for cooking or doing laundry during the day seem ridiculous ???

Can you imaging going to the grocery store (after all these years) and suddenly having to pay an extra 40% because you do your week's worth of shopping on a Thursday, Friday, or Saturday ? Or stopping to gas up your car and paying an extra $20 because you did it at 5:30 on your way home from work instead of at 11pm ???

Something is really, really, wrong here.

 

[kenmac]

Offer to pool companies to fill their fill tanks charge them $500 for 20,000 gallons.

Nothing around that area like that. Nothing but farm land around me. next to my property is 500 acres with nothing on it but cows .

 

[kenmac]

I made a mistake. I put too many 0's it's 2000 gallons not 20,000 gallons. I didn't think 20,000 sounded correct

 

[RadarTech]

I made a mistake. I put too many 0's it's 2000 gallons not 20,000 gallons. I didn't think 20,000 sounded correct

That is low... Assuming 1.6 gallons a toilet flush and 30 gallons for a load of laundry then 8 gallons per dishwasher load
8 loads in a 2 week period with 30 flushes and 8 loads of dishes
500 gallons or so plus any cooking hand washing Etc and 2000 gallons will go quick!

 

[kenmac]

That is low... Assuming 1.6 gallons a toilet flush and 30 gallons for a load of laundry then 8 gallons per dishwasher load
8 loads in a 2 week period with 30 flushes and 8 loads of dishes
500 gallons or so plus any cooking hand washing Etc and 2000 gallons will go quick!

I wouldn't use even close to that. I don't have a cabin there. we just take the travel trailer there maybe 1-2 weekends a month during spring & summer.

 

[BSVLY]

definitely time to dig a fishin' hole buddy!!

Nothing around that area like that. Nothing but farm land around me. next to my property is 500 acres with nothing on it but cows .

 

[BSVLY]

I made a mistake. I put too many 0's it's 2000 gallons not 20,000 gallons. I didn't think 20,000 sounded correct

um, correction-large water trough!

 

[dmccarty]

I just hope she has a good sense of humor.......

She has too...

Later,
Dan

 

[dmccarty]

Try honking the horn.

I have honked the horn and it indeed gets the gate opened quicker.

But there is a cost...

My arm can be ache a bit after the Gate Operator returns to the vehicle. :laughing::laughing::laughing:

Later,
Dan

 

[RadarTech]

I have honked the horn and it indeed gets the gate opened quicker.

But there is a cost...

My arm can be ache a bit after the Gate Operator returns to the vehicle. :laughing::laughing::laughing:

Later,
Dan

Sore arm from opening the gate or from gate opener charges.

 

[Bird]

Smart meters are made with all of the mentioned technologies: Sending data over the power lines, RF transmitter to local receivers on poles, or perhaps in a truck or car, and RF which transmits from house to house and finally to a receiver (called mesh network) The choice depends on the power company and is based on the user density, distances of lines and the infrastructure that the power company decides to install.

We have had smart meters for a number of years in eastern PA without controversy or problems. I can go on line and see my power usage on an hourly basis.

paul

In Texas, there were a number of complaints by people who claimed the new smart meters were showing they were using a lot more electricity; huge bills and such. The only thing I read from investigations was that in some cases the individual who changed the meters out misread the old meter.

Anyway, a pleasant young fellow showed up here on June 2 of this year, rang the doorbell, told me he was here to change out the meter. I don't think he had our power off more than a couple of minutes and he was gone. But I had already started a spreadsheet comparing our electricty usage this year to last year. We had a 5 year contract that expired last year and I got a new one year contract at a slightly lower rate; about 2 cents per KwH less. But the bottom line for us is that we used less electricity every month of this year, compared to last year, except May and November. For the year, we used 1,874 fewer KwH and our total electric bill for the year was $572.67 less than last year.

So, yep, Paul, I guess you and I have the same system. I don't bother to go online to see my hourly usage, but can do that, and I get a weekly e-mail showing our usuage for the past week, the cost, and the estimated amount of the next monthly bill. I'm not concerned about big brother watching; hope he enjoys it, if he's watching.:laughing:

 

[techman]

So, yep, Paul, I guess you and I have the same system. I don't bother to go online to see my hourly usage, but can do that, and I get a weekly e-mail showing our usuage for the past week, the cost, and the estimated amount of the next monthly bill. I'm not concerned about big brother watching; hope he enjoys it, if he's watching.:laughing:

I have 10 KW of solar, so it is interesting for me to see my usage, and also on sunny days to see that they are taking power from me. Unfortunately this month has been a bit of a bust in the northeast, lots of gray days, and only a few with nice sun.

paul

 

[dmccarty]

Sore arm from opening the gate or from gate opener charges.

The sore arm is from the Gate Operator not liking me honking the horn and smacking me. :laughing::laughing::laughing:

Later,
Dan

 

[Bird]

Well, you've sure got me beat there, Paul. I don't have any solar, wind generator, or any source of power except the power company, and we have a total electric home, although a very small one, but it is pretty well insulated. So I still paid the power company $1,832.72 this year. And it was worth every penny, too.:laughing:

 

[kenmac]

um, correction-large water trough!

I alread have that. The property has about 1000 ft of river frontage