Global Warming?

[tcreeley]

What about the Antarctic Sea Ice?
What about the Antarctic Sea Ice? - Climate Change - AccuWeather.com

 

[IslandTractor]

I am a skeptic, but I don't think I am disproportionally skeptical. Science tells us all to be skeptical and we really ought to listen. AGW is a politically charged area, and a complex area, so there is no call to be less skeptical than normal.

Why marry a theory when science seems to prefer divorce. Telling us to be skeptical is the same as telling us to play the field, but don't fall in love...with a theory.

If someone says something about AGW, there's no need to act like they just insulted your wife unless...

Agree. Skepticism is a critical element of good science. I'd say the best approach is 1) to let science do it's job (includes healthy open skepticism) and 2) be especially skeptical of politically biased sources on AGW. 3) science journals are far more reliable than the popular press in this type of debate as a self appointed expert journalist is unlikely to be as qualified as the editors of scientific journals or societies (Daily Mail is an example of #2 and #3.

 

[turnkey4099]

Anybody have a cite to a difinitive article on whether or not the total Antactica ice is growing or diminishing? I tried googling but couldn't find a readable article on it. Last I "heard" was that the sea ice was expanding (possibly partly due to more ice coming off the continent) but the total ice was declining.

Harry K

 

[madmax12]

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[EE_Bota]

Tollster ~ Please consider the Earth has weather cycles, always has, no one is disputing there are changes in weather patterns, just that Humans are not responsible....The environmental Whackos would have us believe it is all our fault...I do not believe that...I am not that arrogant to think humans have the power to permanently injure the Earth...

If we consider the earth to be everything but life, I think the earth is safe. If (everything except life) + (something alive) the earth still has an excellent chance we won't harm it. If we consider the earth to be the last thing mentioned plus humans and other higher animals, there is where concern lies, and it's a valid concern in my view. It is not arrogant at all to worry or claim the last case as a cause for concern.

Obviously, we seem to believe humans were supposed to be a relatively permanent part of the earth (which is not permanent) and it seems we are willing to turn over heaven and earth to be sure that happens. I have no children, but I will scratch pretty hard for the next generation. I guess it's like the Darwin award candidate who supposedly overflew an airport in a lawn chair: "A man's gotta do something. Can't just sit around all the time." So, I'll scratch around.

But many animals have failed on this planet, and it is possible we will bomb-out yet. We are pretty high maintenance. A few decades ago we weren't here (you and I), and a few decades more we will be gone again. That will be true for all individual members of our species, and sometimes I don't see that big of a distinction if a peril wiped us all out at once. But again: A man's gotta do something, so we might as well fight it, but at least we can unload some of the mental duress. No use getting our gut all tore-up about it since that never aids any fight.

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It occurs to me you may have meant arrogant in a different sense that defers to scripture. Obviously I didn't address that case. I don't know what I'd say about it except since the time is unknown, maybe a man should try to act like it is in the next moment in some respects, and in infinitely long time from now in other respects. Our moral behavior would be the former, and our environmental behavior may be the latter. But I really can't say much on the matter otherwise, but I am interested in what others think.

 

[TCJatko]

Anthropogenic Global Warming (AGW) is the religion of the left. No amount of factual information will dissuade the true believers. They must be defeated politically so they cannot wreak any more havoc on our economy.

 

[tcreeley]

Anthropogenic Global Warming (AGW) is the religion of the left. No amount of factual information will dissuade the true believers. They must be defeated politically so they cannot wreak any more havoc on our economy.

Anthropogenic Global Warming (AGW) Global warming will do- for ages I have wondered what the A stood for. I always assumed it was "anti" global warming! Most of the posters are!

 

[IslandTractor]

Anthropogenic Global Warming (AGW) is the religion of the left. No amount of factual information will dissuade the true believers. They must be defeated politically so they cannot wreak any more havoc on our economy.

So who can you vote for? By your definition Romney is a lefty.

From Politifact dot com: Romney’s campaign website is silent on climate change. But in Romney’s 2010 book No Apology: The Case for American Greatness, he wrote that "I believe that climate change is occurring — the reduction in the size of global ice caps is hard to ignore. I also believe that human activity is a contributing factor. I am uncertain how much of the warming, however, is attributable to factors out of our control."

 

[/pine]

Anthropogenic Global Warming (AGW) Global warming will do- for ages I have wondered what the A stood for. I always assumed it was "anti" global warming! Most of the posters are!

Not "anti"...just not as gullible...as they say "fools rush in"...and it will most likely be a very, very long time before ANYONE knows one way or the other...

...the fools have already rushed in and they label ANYONE not a subscriber to their bent a "denier"...or they claim that a highly popular talk show host is responsible for one's lack of gullibility...and they endlessly blather on ignorantly and arrogantly about it...

 

[TCJatko]

So who can you vote for? By your definition Romney is a lefty.

From Politifact dot com: Romney’s campaign website is silent on climate change. But in Romney’s 2010 book No Apology: The Case for American Greatness, he wrote that "I believe that climate change is occurring — the reduction in the size of global ice caps is hard to ignore. I also believe that human activity is a contributing factor. I am uncertain how much of the warming, however, is attributable to factors out of our control."

Romney is a typical politician trying to appease everyone. I notice the economy in Rhode Island is the worst in New England; keep on voting Democrat down there.