Dump Trailers

[danceswithdirt]

Nice looking trailer jenkinsph. One thing to look for in a trailer,get one to match your needs. I just looked at a gooseneck pj14. Dealer said rated payload was 8800lbs. My 10k 12ft tag along is rated for 7700lb payload, only 1k difference. I know the bigger trailer is better built can handle overloading and carrys more volume when weight isnt an issue. But for my needs, smaller works.

 

[danceswithdirt]

Wish I had taken pics of the broken frame but heres after the repairs. I dont think I have really overloaded it or abused it enough to have caused this but...:confused3:

 

[MasseyWV]

Wish I had taken pics of the broken frame but heres after the repairs. I dont think I have really overloaded it or abused it enough to have caused this but...:confused3:

When the fame cracked, was it cracked on the bottom, causing the top to buckle inward? Also, from the pictures, it appears that the frame is constructed from box tubing, correct?

 

[raptor749]

Well here's my 2cents !! I have a PJ 14' gooseneck dump , sissor lift , two way gate , weight empty is 5 k , gvw tag I think is 15,180 ? . But I average 5 to 7 tons at a time , or 5 yards of sand or top soil . Added 12'' sides for hauling more limbs , with a hand crank mess tarp . Has done all I have asked of it , and more . Just keep the battery charged up , if it sets a while with out use charge the battery a day before you need it . And I pull it with an F-350 , drw 4x4 . Just buy what works for you , and look at all the ways the trailer is built . ( Frame , axles , box , doors/gate , sides , ramps , bumper or gooseneck , tires ) you get what you pay for !!! :thumbsup: Good luck ..

 

[Johnp33]

I have a 14 ft PJ with a single lift cylinder, I did have the "D" ring the cylinder mounts to break loose. I had it rebuilt and PJ covered the cost. I welded the center of the plated in the floor, as they seemed to open a bit, the gates for the ramp doors were really tight. I drilled those with a small drill bit and using a needle attachment on the grease gun lubed them they are perfect now.
I used it for building my shop about 100 loads of Rock, Possibly overloaded on 90% of those loads. I use it for haling my loader and getting wood it is great with sides extenders, and strapping the stacked wood down I can haul 3 cords, and I usually split it in the bush, unloading is just remove the back couple of rows. then close the doors and lift the box that puts the doors at mid thigh level and with 2 people it takes 45 minutes to stack it.
Great unit!

 

[Agent Blue]

I am building my own 80" x 12' dump trailer. I can't see where they get their 6k plus price tag and some use such lite duty metal they are bound to fail. Mine is 6" channel frame and 5" cross supports. I have 10 guage 5x10 sheet steel bent for the floor / sides. Sissors type hoist and Dexter 7k axles. Materials alone I am looking to get it finished for two grand.

 

[Dmace]

I am building my own 80" x 12' dump trailer. I can't see where they get their 6k plus price tag and some use such lite duty metal they are bound to fail. Mine is 6" channel frame and 5" cross supports. I have 10 guage 5x10 sheet steel bent for the floor / sides. Sissors type hoist and Dexter 7k axles. Materials alone I am looking to get it finished for two grand.

They are not using light material just to save money, it's to save weight. Your home-built trailer looks very solid and rugged but will probably weigh so much it barely has any payload left...

 

[MasseyWV]

They are not using light material just to save money, it's to save weight. Your home-built trailer looks very solid and rugged but will probably weigh so much it barely has any payload left...

I was thinking the same thing, and having 7k axles will leave even less payload available.

 

[Diamondpilot]

I was thinking the same thing, and having 7k axles will leave even less payload available.

I doubt it will weigh much over 4,000# completed so a 5 ton load will be possible. That is plenty for a dump trailer that size.

Chris

 

[MasseyWV]

I doubt it will weigh much over 4,000# completed so a 5 ton load will be possible. That is plenty for a dump trailer that size.

Chris

I was originally thinking that the combined weight rating of the axles was 7,000 pounds but after looking at his post again, it appears that each axle is rated for 7,000 pounds, for a total weight rating of 14,000 pounds, which I agree leaves plenty of capacity.

 

[Agent Blue]

Main usage is hauling rocks, gravel, wood and equipment. Trailer house type frames will never take the twisting abuse and load. A little heavy yes.... but you won't find any future reinforcment patches added. I doubt if it weighs 4k complete.

 

[Dmace]

I was originally thinking that the combined weight rating of the axles was 7,000 pounds.

Same here, I was thinking two 3,500lb axles.

Main usage is hauling rocks, gravel, wood and equipment. Trailer house type frames will never take the twisting abuse and load. A little heavy yes.... but you won't find any future reinforcment patches added. I doubt if it weighs 4k complete.

Are you planning on anything like drop down sides, barn door tail gate, etc...? You should start a thread for your build, its interesting watching these home built units come together.

Registering a home built trailer under 3,000 lbs is easy here, the local town hall can give you a VIN. Over 3k is a pain, hopefully its easier in your town.

 

[Diamondpilot]

Main usage is hauling rocks, gravel, wood and equipment. Trailer house type frames will never take the twisting abuse and load. A little heavy yes.... but you won't find any future reinforcment patches added. I doubt if it weighs 4k complete.

I bet it will be very close if not a tad over 4K. I sold my uncle a 14' BriMar Dump in 2004 or so. Its got dual 7K dexters and the 3 way rear gate with slide in ramps and its 4,200# empty and I doubt its as heavy built as this one. I have used it well over 20 times and its been across that many scales at different gravel yards and it always comes in at 4,200#.

Chris

 

[danceswithdirt]

Wish I had taken pics of the broken frame but heres after the repairs. I dont think I have really overloaded it or abused it enough to have caused this but...:confused3:

When the fame cracked, was it cracked on the bottom, causing the top to buckle inward? Also, from the pictures, it appears that the frame is constructed from box tubing, correct?

Frame wasnt cracked, it was broken open from the bottom. I mean the frame had a 11/2 inch gap at the bottom. Frame is made of box tubing kept light to reduce weight. Still these trailers are something every guy should have.

 

[GrizzyDan]

Definitely a must have.. Trying to maintain a mile and a half of dirt road 1 yard at a time in the back of a pickup is as tedious as trying to move a pile of rice with chopsticks.. Not to mention the many uses for my fledgling firewood business. Makes for much more time saved and energy left in your aching backside to be more productive.

After reading this I have been swayed from my plans on a dump bed for my truck, or getting my c50 running... if a trailer can outmatch a 5-8mpg c50 4 yard dumptruck and be pulled by my 12-18mpg f250 I'm sold already.. Hmm.. I wonder how much the bed weighs on that C50.. Could be viable to part the truck out and turn it into a trailer, yet drop it down low on a pair of 7k axles. Then use the rear end thats in it for the base piviot on a boom/grapple :thumbsup:

 

[Agent Blue]

Frame wasnt cracked, it was broken open from the bottom. I mean the frame had a 11/2 inch gap at the bottom. Frame is made of box tubing kept light to reduce weight. Still these trailers are something every guy should have.

Exactly my case;
Why pay big money for an "engineered " keep the weight down trailer and patch it with ugly slabs of iron ? My brother bought one... loaded it with 3/4 the gross vehicle weight, and it folded in half crossing a field. He had to get an attorney to get his money back. I think the dealer payed the bill as the manufacturer had thirty excuses.

* In the midwest rust belt these lite duty tube steel trailers will self destruct with slight condensation encouragement in a matter of years.