new member John Deere 316

[dbiddix]

Im new to tractors (well lawn tractors) and just wanted to get some info. I just bought a john deere 316 and the person i bought it from did not go over anything about it so all my knowledge (little at that) is comming from the internet. I dont even have a owners manual. I did find a free snow blade (a plus) but the front 3 hole brackets (that allows it do actually dig) are broken and the blade has been worn down to where replaceable bottom edge cannot be replaced and missing (ground passed the mounting holes).

Just some info on me......

Thanks Darrell

 

[formulabruce]

welcome ! Its been many years since I have seen one, but I bet you can get the manual ( service) on that tractor on ebay as original or maybe as on a CD.
As I recall my neighbor had one and it was a very smooth and nice tractor. Think it had a great Kholer engine too..
Good luck!

 

[creekbend]

I just performed this function and found many sources. Just go on the Internet and type in "Owners Manuals JD 316". Good Luck.:tractor:

 

[glc24]

Hello Darrell
Very good info given.You can find just about anything by searching the 'net.
If you need any questions about your 316 answered let me know. I just about completely redid mine a couple years ago.

Greg

 

[rgs03833]

Im new to tractors (well lawn tractors) and just wanted to get some info. I just bought a john deere 316 and the person i bought it from did not go over anything about it so all my knowledge (little at that) is comming from the internet. I dont even have a owners manual. I did find a free snow blade (a plus) but the front 3 hole brackets (that allows it do actually dig) are broken and the blade has been worn down to where replaceable bottom edge cannot be replaced and missing (ground passed the mounting holes).

Just some info on me......

Thanks Darrell

Welcome !!!

As for the Snow Blade / Worn... you can go to Homedepot of Lowes and get a Steel Piece and Drill some Holes just like the old one and then mount that back with some Bolts and Nuts... If the Ground passed some holes.... You need to CUT it off and make NEW HOLES... A buddy of mine just did it to his Blade. Althoug it is 2" Shorter... But it still works... LOL

As far for Manuals, most want you to pay like Ebay, LOL but Search around... Sometimes you can use Google as a CACHE and than see the Link PDF file and then search from there or Type in the URL yourself and sometimes it will work too.

You can cheat if by using like: http://www.partstree.com/ you don't get a written Manual, but at least for Parts with Pix and the Part Number, that comes handy sometimes too, LOL also maybe that will help you understand. There is another Site that is helpful to me... TractorData.com - information on all makes and models of tractors

https://jdparts.deere.com/servlet/com.deere.u90.jdparts.view.publicservlets.HomeUnsigned

Is this Yours? LOL

http://john-perry.com/tractor/john.html

LOL
Anyway, good luck...

 

[dbiddix]

Welcome !!!

As for the Snow Blade / Worn... you can go to Homedepot of Lowes and get a Steel Piece and Drill some Holes just like the old one and then mount that back with some Bolts and Nuts... If the Ground passed some holes.... You need to CUT it off and make NEW HOLES... A buddy of mine just did it to his Blade. Althoug it is 2" Shorter... But it still works... LOL

As far for Manuals, most want you to pay like Ebay, LOL but Search around... Sometimes you can use Google as a CACHE and than see the Link PDF file and then search from there or Type in the URL yourself and sometimes it will work too.

You can cheat if by using like: http://www.partstree.com/ you don't get a written Manual, but at least for Parts with Pix and the Part Number, that comes handy sometimes too, LOL also maybe that will help you understand. There is another Site that is helpful to me... TractorData.com - information on all makes and models of tractors

https://jdparts.deere.com/servlet/com.deere.u90.jdparts.view.publicservlets.HomeUnsigned

Is this Yours? LOL

My Tractor Page

LOL
Anyway, good luck...

Thank you guys for all your info. Im sure i will be using this site as well as the ones mentioned.

 

[Tenn_Blue]

Also realize that there were TWO different 316's - different engines and hydraulic systems. You need to know which one you have...

The 316 Kohler was only made one year. It is a closed frame model almost identical to the 300 tractors. It had 2 hydraulic circuits and used the singe cylinder Kohler engine.

The second, and more common is the 316 onan - made later and for several years. It is an open frame tractor, only had 1 hydraulic circuit, and used the 2 cylinder onan engine. This was more of a stripped down version of the 318.

Different frames, engines, hydraulic circuits - the two models had very little in common, but are easily identifiable. Worst case, take your serial number to your local Deere dealer and they can tell you what you have.

 

[dbiddix]

Thank you very much for the info. I have alot to learn about this machine and the attachments. I think I have the "Onan" model because I do not have a rear PTO. Thannks again for your info.

Also realize that there were TWO different 316's - different engines and hydraulic systems. You need to know which one you have...

The 316 Kohler was only made one year. It is a closed frame model almost identical to the 300 tractors. It had 2 hydraulic circuits and used the singe cylinder Kohler engine.

The second, and more common is the 316 onan - made later and for several years. It is an open frame tractor, only had 1 hydraulic circuit, and used the 2 cylinder onan engine. This was more of a stripped down version of the 318.

Different frames, engines, hydraulic circuits - the two models had very little in common, but are easily identifiable. Worst case, take your serial number to your local Deere dealer and they can tell you what you have.

 

[Tenn_Blue]

Rear pto doesn't define it - both had the option of a rear pto.

As you sit on the machine are there 2 handles on the left side engine cover next to the steering wheel or just one? 2 would be the Kohler, 1 would be the onan.

Or open the hood. Kohler will have 1 spark plug lead on top of the engine. The onan will have 2 spark plugs (and spark plug leads), one on each cylinder bank sticking off to the side.

 

[glc24]

Just look at the serial number.
All the Onan 316 serial numbers started with an M.
Big sticker should be right above your choke knob.

Greg

 

[dbiddix]

It has one handle. and one pedal on the left

Rear pto doesn't define it - both had the option of a rear pto.

As you sit on the machine are there 2 handles on the left side engine cover next to the steering wheel or just one? 2 would be the Kohler, 1 would be the onan.

Or open the hood. Kohler will have 1 spark plug lead on top of the engine. The onan will have 2 spark plugs (and spark plug leads), one on each cylinder bank sticking off to the side.

 

[glc24]

It has one handle. and one pedal on the left

Are you sure that pedal isn't on the right side?

Greg

 

[mikeknouse]

Thank you very much for the info. I have alot to learn about this machine and the attachments. I think I have the "Onan" model because I do not have a rear PTO. Thannks again for your info.

ok i baught a 316 with a old kohler in it im wondering if it would be cheaper to rebuild the kohler or should i put a new motor in it .

 

[Tenn_Blue]

The old kohlers are easy to rebuild, and parts are readily avalable and inexpensive - there are several vendors on @-bay that sell rebuild kits reasonable. If you have access to a machine shop that can bore cylinder and do valve job, you can do the assembly straight out of the service manual with simple tools.

My wife wanted to learn about rebuilding motors so she built the Kohler in my 316K as her first project.

Rebuild kit is around $140, and the machine shop work should be in the $150 - 300 range, depending on what you need done and their rate. Plus your labor to do the remove, disassemble, reassemble and install.

I would think buying a new engine would be more than that, and for a less robust engine.

A new engine, especially an ohv design, may be more efficient (hosepower and fuel consumption) than the old side valve design of the kohler. But then you would have to modify mounts, cables, etc to make it fit (onless you buy a turnkey package from someone like Small Engine Warehouse- $$$).

In the end, depends on how much involvement and money you want to to have in this. I, personally like the old kohlers, and like knowing that I "built" it. If it ever gives up(may outlive me.....), I can rebuild it again - these engines were made in a different time and were made to last.

 

[dbiddix]

Yes it is on the right, sorry. I know the 318 have two not sure about the 316

Are you sure that pedal isn't on the right side?

Greg

 

[pdp11]

I have a 316, as well as my 2520. The 316 doesn't get used much anymore since the 2520 does all the mowing. It's a nice little tractor and as others have said, it's mostly a 318 with lesser hydraulics. That makes it easier to find parts. I need to get the mowing deck fixed for mine so that I can use it to get some areas the the 2520 is a little big to get.

Good luck with yours.

 

[Rigpig]

Hey Greg, I'm kind of in the same boat. I got a 316 with a 33 tiller. By the sounds of it mine is a kohler. My problem is that the pto shaft is nowhere to be found. I need the whole assembly from pto back to pulley. I pulled the fenders off today to get a better idea of what i needed. All I have is about an inch of shaft with a hole. Your help would be greatly appreciated as my local dealer told me that the 33 doesn't fit a 316. It mounted in seconds so I know he's wrong. Thanks in advance for any suggestions.


Brad

 

[Rigpig]

Ok folks, called a few more dealers today and found that they dont make the rear pto for a 316 as a kit anymore. I priced it out in pieces and apparently there are 29 parts (bolts included) and its gonna be a measly 7-8 hundred bucks. Anybody know which models of tractor have the same pto as the old 316 with a kohler so i can look for a used one? Im not really in the mood for spending that kind of cash. Thanks