Comparison Is Kubota L3800 worth 2000 more than JD3038E?

[dontn]

I am getting ready to purchase a new tractor for my small farm. I will mainly be using the tractor for grading driveway, moving manure, and bushogging. My property is very hilly. I have priced the both of the above tractors. Both tractors have the Hydrostat Drives and both dealers are going to fill tires with fluid to increase weight.

I got my final pricing with trade in. The JD3038E is about $2000.00 less and includes 6 ft. Frontier Box Blade due to the 2-implement promotion. Both JD and Kubota offer 0% financing but Kubota will increase price $1000.00 if I use the financing. I will be financing and that is why the Kubota is going to cost about $2000.00 more.

Any suggestions on which tractor will be better for my situation? Is the Kubota worth paying $2000.00 more and also having to buy a box blade. Looking at durability, repair cost, and resale value. I have Kubota Dealers and JD dealers within 15 miles.

Thanks for your help.

Don

 

[BleedGreen]

In a word, "no". Yes, I "bleed green" but 2K is just too much difference. The 3038E and L3800 are very close in specs - Kub has 3 ranges, JD has 2; JD has independent PTO, Kub does not; treadle pedal vs twin pedal, etc - if it were 500 difference then go with which pedal configuration you like better or dealer you like better... But 2K? I think even some Kub guys are going to say to go with the JD.

 

[crashz]

I'm no expert on either one of these machines, but as far as I know there are some differences to consider:

- 3 range hydro on the Kubota vs 2 range on the JD.
- Loader capacity I think is higher on the Kubota.
- The loader is removable on the Kubota.

This coming from a guy with a smaller, older, gear drive tractor. I have to say I'd be envious of either one. However the $2000+ would personally entice me to go JD. Primarily because the 2-3 range thing does not bother me and I always leave my loader on (I doubt it could even be removed at this point). I would strongly suggest sitting on each one and driving it around a bit. I found the L2800 and L3400 to be kind of cramped on the operators stations and the L3240 to be much roomier. Haven't driven the JD's to compare.

 

[Martian]

Like BleedGreen, I do favor JD, but I admit when somethings got me beat... I don't believe, though, the L3800 is worth $2k more than the 3038e.

Yea it has a two range hydro, I'm between A and B range 98% of the time and the rest of the time is road travel, I could live with it.

The 3038e's loader isn't quick detach, but in all the tractors I've had with loaders I've never once took one of them off. Not important to me at all. I figure if I'm taking the loader off then I'm doing 3pt work, and it won't work as well without the extra weight in the front, so what's the point. And, if you get stuck, you can get yourself out with the loader.

Of course I'm just referring to my situation, but if I recall correctly that price includes a box blade for the JD and not the Kubota as well right?

 

[dontn]

The JD3038E with my trade in is $2,000 less than Kubota. JD also includes a 5 ft. Frontier Box Blade. One of the reasons for the difference in price that I will be financing it. I lose the $1000 rebate from Kubota but not from JD. I can also finance for 60 months 0% interest with JD and Kubota is 48 months 0% interest.

Unless I can find major differences in the tractors, I think it is a no brainer.

I am a little concerned with the JD being 500 lbs lighter. I will never remove the loader so that is not a big deal. I am also concerned that the JD is smaller and will not lift as much with the FEL as the Kubota L3800.

I don't know if these concerns are enough to offset the $2,000.00 savings.

 

[murphy1244]

If your ever thinking about a backhoe the JD won't work. If not go green.

 

[cougar21300]

Two range tractors are severely limited compared to a three range in hilly terrain. You'll likely find yourself mostly working in mid range in the Kubota, and but really appreciate the options of both high and low. I've only had one two speed, but it always seemed to be either too slow in low or too gutless in high to be truly productive

 

[Martian]

The JD3038E with my trade in is $2,000 less than Kubota. JD also includes a 5 ft. Frontier Box Blade. One of the reasons for the difference in price that I will be financing it. I lose the $1000 rebate from Kubota but not from JD. I can also finance for 60 months 0% interest with JD and Kubota is 48 months 0% interest.

Unless I can find major differences in the tractors, I think it is a no brainer.

I am a little concerned with the JD being 500 lbs lighter. I will never remove the loader so that is not a big deal. I am also concerned that the JD is smaller and will not lift as much with the FEL as the Kubota L3800.

I don't know if these concerns are enough to offset the $2,000.00 savings.

Too me, the clear winner is the JD. You get a box blade, and $2,000 less to pay off over an extra year.

You can easily add weight, put rim guard in the tires and the box blade on the back and it will be heavy. As for the lift, you won't notice a difference unless your looking to lift pallets that weigh 2000 pounds. For day to day stuff, most won't need that much. A decent size log will top out at 1000 pounds and both will be able to handle it.

 

[Jay4200]

Both JD and Kubota offer 0% financing but Kubota will increase price $1000.00 if I use the financing. I will be financing and that is why the Kubota is going to cost about $2000.00 more.

You're comparing apples and oranges with the $2k figure. Take into account what you are actually going to pay at the end. How much interest will you end up paying on the JD before it is paid off? Subtract that amount from the 2k difference and that is your REAL extra cost.

That being said, I like Orange...

JayC

 

[Martian]

You're comparing apples and oranges with the $2k figure. Take into account what you are actually going to pay at the end. How much interest will you end up paying on the JD before it is paid off? Subtract that amount from the 2k difference and that is your REAL extra cost.

That being said, I like Orange...

JayC

The OP is getting 0% from both JD and Kubota, but Kubota is taking the $1000 cash back he would get for paying cash, taking the difference from $1000 cash to $2000 credit, and JD is offering 60 month 0% and Kubota is offering 48 month 0%. It would be a $2000 difference either way, both are 0%.

I think the 3800 could be more enticing at a $500 difference, but he'll be paying $2,000 more over a 12 month shorter time frame, and the same 0%.

I do prefer JD, and I'm not trying to sway him either way, but for a very comparable tractor at $2,000 less over 12 more months at the same 0%...

 

[reggiejr]

Watch this video it may help you make your decision.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTidbgJOU-I]New Kubota Standard L-Series (L3200/L3800) - YouTube[/ame]
the kubota is a heavier tractor.
the jd loader is fixed to the tractor on the kubota you can remove the loader on the l3800 this makes servicing much easier and if your mowing or bush hogging or tilling ect you can get the whole loader right out of the way.
l3800 has a skid steer style quick attach bucket (big plus) very universal for grapples and forks ect....
kubota has twice the fuel capacity
kubota has a pto clutch
Foldable rops on kubota vs fixed on the jd
the 3 hst ranges are a very good feature also
I own the l3800 hst and IMO its worth the extra 2000.00 to me its more tractor.
A new tractor is a big investment and to me 2000 bucks wasn't a deal breaker to get the tractor i really wanted.

 

[k0ua]

He may have already seen the video, I posted it up earlier, one thing I would want to know if they are both pin on bucket or is he dealing for a SSQA on the Kubota, he did not say, and the L3800 could be either way, not all are SSQA.

What I would do is take the JD dealers offer down to the Kub dealer and say "do you want to sell me a tractor or not?" If the answer is not, then buy the JD. If he gets close then buy the Kubota. The Kubota is a little more tractor, as in steel rear end instead of aluminum, better loader etc.. but if none of those things matter, then the JD will serve him well.

James K0UA

 

[Martian]

Sorry guys, I just had too. Not really looking at starting a fight at which one's better. Kubota definitely has the Deere in some areas, but the difference is really minimal. And the point of the video, anybody can make any tractor look good by showing one side. If we only listened to the defendants side of the story there wouldn't be many people acquitted of a crime. The video makes some good points on the Kubota, but to use it as a comparison tool, not so much.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdRP5SS_Iqs]John Deere 3032e vs. Kubota - YouTube[/ame]

 

[k0ua]

Not to start anything here, but you will notice as soon as the L4400 starts to move backwards and become unstuck on that nice ice spot they made by spinning the wheels, it starts to move backwards and they cut the video off and switched to going forwards on the ice again.. buy which ever tractor suits you. but this ice video is pure BS. Like a lot of the other Kubota/JD video I posted. My point to posting the other video was to go over the non BS parts of the differences between the L3800 and the JD 3038. There are tangible differences between the two, but if those features do not matter, and the money favors the JD, then by all means get the JD.

James K0UA

 

[Martian]

Not to start anything here, but you will notice as soon as the L4400 starts to move backwards and become unstuck on that nice ice spot they made by spinning the wheels, it starts to move backwards and they cut the video off and switched to going forwards on the ice again.. buy which ever tractor suits you. but this ice video is pure BS. Like a lot of the other Kubota/JD video I posted. My point to posting the other video was to go over the non BS parts of the differences between the L3800 and the JD 3038. There are tangible differences between the two, but if those features do not matter, and the money favors the JD, then by all means get the JD.

James K0UA

I agree. Noticed that too and laughed to myself. I was more saying to just use those types of videos for the product they represent because they distort the other. Both are really good tractors, and without money I'd probably give a slight edge to the Kubota, but I don't know about $2,000 worth, but that's up to the OP to decide:thumbsup:

 

[reggiejr]

After the video he probably parked the deere waited till it got good and dark and plowed off the lot with the kubota.:thumbsup:
I think that guy would have trouble with either brand.:confused2::laughing:

 

[dontn]

Thanks for all of the information. Both the Kubota and the John Deere have the quick change buckets on the FEL.

I think I am going to contact the Kubota Dealer and let him know what John Deere is doing. If he can do better, I will consider the Kubota.

I will never remove the FEL so that is not a major difference to me.

I think that $2,000, 0% interest for 60 months, and a Frontier 5 ft. Box Blade makes me lean toward the John Deere.

 

[Martian]

Thanks for all of the information. Both the Kubota and the John Deere have the quick change buckets on the FEL.

I think I am going to contact the Kubota Dealer and let him know what John Deere is doing. If he can do better, I will consider the Kubota.

I will never remove the FEL so that is not a major difference to me.

I think that $2,000, 0% interest for 60 months, and a Frontier 5 ft. Box Blade makes me lean toward the John Deere.

I really don't think you can go wrong. If you can justify the extra $2,000 the Kubota will be great, if not I think you will get along perfectly fine with the 3032E.

 

[TripleR]

Not to beat a dead horse, but:http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/owning-operating/173790-practice-removing-your-front-end.html

 

[PapaPerk]

I'd buy the Kubota. The three range trans alone makes this an apple and oranges comparison. I 100% trust Kubota in this size tractor. :thumbsup: Deere.... not so much. :laughing: