110 TLB question

[couchsachraga]

Though I'm hoping to move forward on a 4520 as soon as my tractor sells, I've noticed a few 110 TLB's come up for sale. Though I like the idea of the 4520, I know a few here had highly recommended the 110 (and get a Laurin cab - though one has it already). I had convinced myself the 4520 was the way to go - until an ad caught my eye - I think it's a misprint, but if not it gets me interested in the 110 again - the question is does the 110 have high flow hydraulics to the front? The statement in the ad was made that it can run ANY bobcat attachment, and listed augers, sweepers, etc... that can be used up front on the loader (which has the SSQA of course). Is this true? Or low-flow only?

I don't have plans for such things, but I always like to keep my options open.

I can't find any specifics on the Deere site.

Thank you!

 

[sqidget]

The front hydraulics (aux) are a factory installed option. you will find some with them and those without. keep in mind that being a TLB the front loader is not removable.

 

[Martian]

There was an option for the front hyd. A guy on YouTube has a hydraulic mower on the front so I'm sure it will run anything. And it does have the SSQA.

 

[Martian]

Another thing to remember us the 4520 is another 17 HP than the 110. The factory cab on the 4520 is much nicer than the laurin, although still nice. I'm looking for a 110 right now because I need the bh a lot more than you describe. Without the backhoe included the 4520 with cab is much nicer. If you have the pictures or a link we could tell you if that 110 has the front hyd though.

 

[Rockgod]

Another thing to remember us the 4520 is another 17 HP than the 110. The factory cab on the 4520 is much nicer than the laurin, although still nice. I'm looking for a 110 right now because I need the bh a lot more than you describe. Without the backhoe included the 4520 with cab is much nicer. If you have the pictures or a link we could tell you if that 110 has the front hyd though.

Why not the 4520 w/backhoe? At least part of the time you'd be warm/cool. :thumbsup:

 

[AKfish]

I had convinced myself the 4520 was the way to go - until an ad caught my eye - I think it's a misprint, but if not it gets me interested in the 110 again - the question is does the 110 have high flow hydraulics to the front? The statement in the ad was made that it can run ANY bobcat attachment, and listed augers, sweepers, etc... that can be used up front on the loader (which has the SSQA of course). Is this true? Or low-flow only?

Low-flow only. Depending upon the condition of the hyd pump (alot of hours, etc.) the front hyd flow is somewhere around 10 ~ 12 gpm @ 3,000 psi.

Deere and Bobcat and others make attachments, auger, brooms, etc. that will work on the low flow output.

The older Skid-steers didn't have High-flow, either. So, there's attachments that are available - just gotta be sure what the requirements are before buying or renting.

AKfish

 

[Martian]

Why not the 4520 w/backhoe? At least part of the time you'd be warm/cool. :thumbsup:

Creep to reposition would be the biggest factor, depending how easy it is to access vitals from outside the cab. Did you every figure that out?

 

[couchsachraga]

I haven't been in touch with the dealer again yet (and I need to - he has some original literature on my Yanmar I'd like back). As soon as my current tractor sells I'll be on his doorstep. I hope to get better pictures of it tomorrow, actually, with the bucket and brush hog that go with it on and with something other than a camera phone.

Thank you all for the clarification on the hydraulics... sounds like sticking with the 4520 is the way to go for me.

 

[AKfish]

Thank you all for the clarification on the hydraulics... sounds like sticking with the 4520 is the way to go for me.

Of course, you know that the hyd flow to the aux. outlet on the 110 is more than the total implement flow for the 4520...

But, who cares about hydraulic flow, psi, auxillary outlets, etc. etc.... when you can turn up the blower on the cab heater!!!

AKfish

 

[jenkinsph]

Hard to know which is best, I like having both with hvac.:thumbsup:

Really hard to compare the two cabs as the 110 cab is more complex in how it is used and adapts to either tractor with 3pt or backhoe. This is comparing apples to oranges.

 

[Rockgod]

Did you every figure that out?

Figure what out?

 

[Piston]

Creep to reposition would be the biggest factor...

I'm curious why so many people think this is so important?

I was looking hard at the 110 and a lot of people told me how the creep to position is so nice, however, I consider that a non issue as every backhoe I've used has creep to position.... (I ended up deciding against the 110)

Simply raise the outriggers and pull/push your way with the hoe. I can't see why the special creep feature is so much better?

I'm interested in how it works because I've been skeptical about 'great' features in the past, like hydraulic scarifiers on a box blade, and now that I have one, I would NEVER go back to life without it :laughing: So of course I could be wrong about the creep feature.

I've never used the creep the feature (or a 110) so I'm saying this based on opinion which of course is just about worthless

 

[Martian]

Figure what out?

How the creep to repo worked on the new 45/4720's.

And it is a very useful feature. Sometimes you can't dig into the surface (say digging a trench on a lawn) or can move long distances facing backwards. I don't have a 110 yet, but will soon.

 

[jenkinsph]

I'm curious why so many people think this is so important?

I was looking hard at the 110 and a lot of people told me how the creep to position is so nice, however, I consider that a non issue as every backhoe I've used has creep to position.... (I ended up deciding against the 110)

Simply raise the outriggers and pull/push your way with the hoe. I can't see why the special creep feature is so much better?

I'm interested in how it works because I've been skeptical about 'great' features in the past, like hydraulic scarifiers on a box blade, and now that I have one, I would NEVER go back to life without it :laughing: So of course I could be wrong about the creep feature.

I've never used the creep the feature (or a 110) so I'm saying this based on opinion which of course is just about worthless

Couple of things, first all of us that have operated backhoes have used the hoe to move the machine while digging a trench but the addition of creep to reposition allows you to move further similar to using the front seat. Also for drilling post holes with the hoe mounted auger it makes positioning easy since you don't have the bucket on to move with. Another example is you can pick up a stump with the thumb and then move it out of the way without leaviing the backhoe seat.

 

[Piston]

The example with using the hoe mounted auger is an excellent point and certainly seems like it would be helpful. Like I said before I never thought I would need hydraulic scarifiers but the time it saves it certainly noticeable. I imagine the creep feature is similar, I just couldn't think of when it would be noticeably better but that is why I asked