4-axle tractor

[RobertN]

I saw a 4-axle big rig/tractor today; the first I have ever seen. Just got a quick glimpse; I think it was a Freightliner.

Looked different with three axles on the back. It did not have a trailer. And did not get a picture...

Imagine those are not very common; I have never noticed one before.

 

[zlock24]

these are called tridems (like tandems but with 3 rear axels instead of 2) they are common in heavy-haul and used a lot in logging and construction, they arent really used for interstate travel for normal loads, these are the trucks that are hauling 100 tons loads or in massive logging operations. So if you see a giant cat excavator on a 4 axle lowboy trailer, its probably being towed by one of these deisel thirsty monsters

 

[whodat526]

That is just whats called a 3rd axle it can be raised when not hauling much weight most commonly found on heavy haul trucks and dump trucks

 

[flusher]

These beasts are made by Oshkosh

 

[Duffster]

I saw a 4-axle big rig/tractor today; the first I have ever seen. Just got a quick glimpse; I think it was a Freightliner.

Looked different with three axles on the back. It did not have a trailer. And did not get a picture...

Imagine those are not very common; I have never noticed one before.

They are not as common as quads (4 axles in the back) but still fairly common.

 

[Duffster]

These beasts are made by Oshkosh

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They build them with up to 7 axles.

They are built NE of here and we see a lot of them go by here being delivered.

 

[JasG]

They are not as common as quads (4 axles in the back) but still fairly common.

Are you sure your not thinking of a straight truck with a dump or mixer body or that would be getting a body? These would be very common to have 4 axles in the back. I don't think a quad axle truck with a 5th wheel is made. They usually go to what is called a jeep. Where you have several axles on a small trailer with a 5th wheel then the load trailer.

Don't know if these links will work but here are some very heavy haul set-ups for anyone interested. These are very uncommon and require all kinds of special permits to use. They do look cool to me anyway.

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Here are some heavy haul web sites with info.

D & G Heavy Haul pictures

http://www.craneserviceinc.com/Heavy-Hauling-Trucking.php


http://www.atswes.com/equipment.html

 

[RobertN]

The rig I saw had three drive axle. It was definitely a tractor; it had the 5th wheel.

I have seen the dumps with three rear axles, where one could be lowered depending on weight requirements.

The links JasG provided remind me of when they pulled the generators from the Ill fated Rancho Seco Nuke plan outside of Sacramento. They were transported on one of those very large, numerous axle articulated rigs. Went from the closed nuke plant, to India I believe. I can't remember if they towed them to Port of Sacramento or Port of Stockton to be loaded on a ship.

 

[JasG]

The rig I saw had three drive axle. It was definitely a tractor; it had the 5th wheel.

I have seen the dumps with three rear axles, where one could be lowered depending on weight requirements.

The links JasG provided remind me of when they pulled the generators from the Ill fated Rancho Seco Nuke plan outside of Sacramento. They were transported on one of those very large, numerous axle articulated rigs. Went from the closed nuke plant, to India I believe. I can't remember if they towed them to Port of Sacramento or Port of Stockton to be loaded on a ship.

Many of these 3rd and 4th axles aren't powered and in may states now they require them to steer. This is suppose to reduce road wear so many have single tires. Although many trucks now are going to super single tires that has 1 very wide tire in place of dual wheels on the rear tandems. The tires cost about the same as a set of duals, but they save on weight and fuel.

What can suck for guys that live near a state border if they have like a dump truck or straight body. Each state has different load laws and axle spreads. When you get into these trucks I have seen all kinds of different axle spreads. Some attach a set of arms on the very rear of a truck. Then when lowered are about 8' behind the truck. One guy around here has a very long dump truck. The tandem is about midway on the dump body with a lift axle on the very back. looks funny, but he can turn very short with it. Always needs to be sure his axle is down when he dumps or it could stand up on end.

Here are a couple of pages that show the lift or drop axles.
Lift Axles

New Axle and Suspension Products Announcments at Watson & Chalin

Super dump truck with trailing axle.
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I went ro Asia a few years ago and double front steering axles was very common.

Ditzj.de - OAF 42.464 - Sohler

 

[Willl]

Imagine those are not very common; I have never noticed one before.

Quite common.

First time out of the house in a while ?

 

[Bob77064]

tridem

 

[Toddao]

 

[RobertN]

Been a big rig fan since watching Will and Sonny every week in that KW W925VIP.

http://www.tvtruckin.com/id5.html

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Just never notice a tractor with that many axles. Some of the concrete pump rigs running around have a bunch of axles.

Quite common.

First time out of the house in a while ?

 

[QRTRHRS]

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"Jake Leg", ie; tandem steering axles.

 

[Diamondpilot]

Off topic but around here everyone is running Super Singles and getting rid of the dually wheels on the tractors and trailers.

It was mentioned above the cost is about the same but it saves on weight. I have also been told its a tax thing. There is a very high tax on truck wheels and they can cut that number of wheels down significantly and in turn cut cost.

Chris

 

[JasG]

Off topic but around here everyone is running Super Singles and getting rid of the dually wheels on the tractors and trailers.

It was mentioned above the cost is about the same but it saves on weight. I have also been told its a tax thing. There is a very high tax on truck wheels and they can cut that number of wheels down significantly and in turn cut cost.

Chris

Learn something new every day, seems the tax law was changed. The tax was the same due to it was based on load, but now you are correct it has changed. The great thing is they save a lot of weight and runbber, the bad is the ones I have seen suck in the snow and ice.

Tire Business - Log In

A new method of calculating federal excise tax (FET) on tires was included in the American Jobs Creation Act passed in October. Previously, the method for calculating FET on tires was based on the actual weight of the tire. For every 10 pounds of weight above 90 pounds, there was a charge of 50 cents, plus a flat fee of $10.50. Thus a tire weighing 118.63 pounds carried a tax liability of $24.81.

The new FET is based on the load-carrying capacity of the tire. For every 10-pound increment in load-carrying capacity above 3,500 pounds, a tax of 9.45 cents is levied. So, for a tire with a load carrying capacity of 6,175 pounds, a fleet would pay $25.27 in tax. Super single tires, however, are to be taxed at the same rate as bias ply tires, which is 4.725 cents for every 10-pound increment in load carrying capacity.

This gives super single tires a great advantage in the marketplace since taxes are cut in half and, since one tire replaces two, users of super singles will get a real deal in the tax department.

 

[sandman2234]

We ran about the same tire as a super single back in the 70's on a mach l Mustang. No tax credit then...
David from jax

 

[Renze]

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this is a 64 ton truck by dutch construction truck maker Ginaf, sold to a quarry in Austria. It is based on a standard road truck which is legislated to 50t GVW (46t in the rest of Europe) so the components are off-the-shelf and therefor cheaper.

Meanwhile they have also made an 80t GVW truck with a 60t capacity, which is tagged at 50t so it can still drive half full over the public roads: However it is intended for large earthmoving projects at closed courses. Fuel consumption, tire cost, purchase cost are much more favourable than ADT's, however the trade-off is lesser offroad capability..

 

[andrehoude]

"Jake Leg", ie; tandem steering axles.

Friend up in Canada has kenworth dump truck 4axle and the the front ones are steering axles wet for a ride they are amazing

 

[Mace Canute]

When you said 4-axle tractor, I thought you meant something like this...

Only in Canada, eh!

A bit of a write up can be found here...

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