Another bridge knocked down.

/ Another bridge knocked down. #41  
Up north bridges can't be bolted down on both ends. With the changes in temps the bridge needs to move to expand and contract or it will not be called a bridge for very long. When you drive over a bridge you can see the expansion joint. Sometimes they are just a gap while other times they look like finger joints use to glue wood together.

I would say that driver is very lucky a train wasn't going through.
 
/ Another bridge knocked down. #43  
Up north bridges can't be bolted down on both ends. With the changes in temps the bridge needs to move to expand and contract or it will not be called a bridge for very long. When you drive over a bridge you can see the expansion joint. Sometimes they are just a gap while other times they look like finger joints use to glue wood together.

That makes perfect sense:thumbsup:

I would say that driver is very lucky a train wasn't going through.

I would say you are absolutly right:D
 
/ Another bridge knocked down. #44  
There may be some corelation between not being able to read the sign on the bridge and the ability to figure out how to measure from the top of the boom to the ground and realize "one of these things doesn't go with the other".Even with an oversize permit there is some law that says 2 matters can't occupy the same space at thesame time .
 
/ Another bridge knocked down. #45  
It looks like someone forgot to bolt down the bridge in the first place :laughing:
How did all those Civil Engineering courses work out for ya? :)

You can't "bolt down a bridge" in a conventional sense -- it becomes statically indeterminate and you'll have more problems than if you just sit the road surface atop the supporting infrastructure. This allows for expansion/contraction, and better distribution of applied load.

Wrooster
 
/ Another bridge knocked down. #46  
How did all those Civil Engineering courses work out for ya? :)

You can't "bolt down a bridge" in a conventional sense -- it becomes statically indeterminate and you'll have more problems than if you just sit the road surface atop the supporting infrastructure. This allows for expansion/contraction, and better distribution of applied load.

Wrooster

Does this work for a smaller wood bridge? Somthing that's 12 feet long and 8 feet wide? Or is that too small to matter?

Eddie
 
/ Another bridge knocked down. #47  
How did all those Civil Engineering courses work out for ya? :)

You can't "bolt down a bridge" in a conventional sense -- it becomes statically indeterminate and you'll have more problems than if you just sit the road surface atop the supporting infrastructure. This allows for expansion/contraction, and better distribution of applied load.

Wrooster

So what happens in an earthquake where there is uplifting? do the bridges just fall apart?
 
/ Another bridge knocked down. #48  
So what happens in an earthquake where there is uplifting? do the bridges just fall apart?

I've never thought about this before, but now I'm thinking that when I build my bridge, that if I rest it on concrete footings, it can move when the ground moves and not pull itself apart. I think this is what happens during earthquakes and other times that the soil moves. Frost heave and thawing.

Where I live, clay moves quite a bit when it gets really wet, then freezes. Most of the damage to houses happens when this happens, but most people don't notice it until spring, when the ground settles and sinks back down.

With water in my lake, I'm wondering if this freezing movement of the soil will affect my bridge over my spillway if I bolt it to the concrete footings?

Eddie
 
/ Another bridge knocked down. #49  
Bolt it on only one side, but not too tight.

Bruce
 
/ Another bridge knocked down. #50  
Someone's assuming the driver was at error, but we don't know that for sure. A number of years ago, I checked the sign posting the clearance on a McDonald's underground parking and drove in. Within seconds there was a whole lot of noise when the ladder on my truck's roof ripped through about sixty feet of aluminum soffit material before I realized what was happening and stopped. This was witnessed by a cop. "Just the person I need", I told him. He noted the clearance was posted as 7' 6" when it was actually measured at 6' 7". McDonald's gave me a wad of vouchers in consideration of the paint scratches on the roof of my beater truck.
 
/ Another bridge knocked down. #51  
Someone's assuming the driver was at error, but we don't know that for sure. A number of years ago, I checked the sign posting the clearance on a McDonald's underground parking and drove in. Within seconds there was a whole lot of noise when the ladder on my truck's roof ripped through about sixty feet of aluminum soffit material before I realized what was happening and stopped. This was witnessed by a cop. "Just the person I need", I told him. He noted the clearance was posted as 7' 6" when it was actually measured at 6' 7". McDonald's gave me a wad of vouchers in consideration of the paint scratches on the roof of my beater truck.
Thats what happens when a dyslexias reads a tape measure hehe
 
/ Another bridge knocked down. #52  
Hit it at about 50 mph.

From:
Traffic now moving at overpass

"Const. Inman said the driver of the transport, who thought he had clearance, was travelling 80 kilometres per hour at the time of the crash. "

Famous words spoken..... to the DOT officer I'm sure.

Bridges, for the most part sit on trunions so thay can move, expand and contract, without buckling.

This one moved a lot......:laughing:
 
/ Another bridge knocked down. #53  
So what happens in an earthquake where there is uplifting? do the bridges just fall apart?

The two ways they do it here is by using large plates to clamp the I-Beams allowing for some expansion and contraction length wise.

The other was is with cables... lots of them... everything can move but not far enough to separate.
 
/ Another bridge knocked down. #54  
Someone's assuming the driver was at error, but we don't know that for sure. A number of years ago, I checked the sign posting the clearance on a McDonald's underground parking and drove in. Within seconds there was a whole lot of noise when the ladder on my truck's roof ripped through about sixty feet of aluminum soffit material before I realized what was happening and stopped. This was witnessed by a cop. "Just the person I need", I told him. He noted the clearance was posted as 7' 6" when it was actually measured at 6' 7". McDonald's gave me a wad of vouchers in consideration of the paint scratches on the roof of my beater truck.

Bradley Hein, 47, is charged with exceeding the maximum dimensions allowed under the Highway and Transportation Act
 
/ Another bridge knocked down. #56  
:D:laughing::D:laughing:

Can anybody tell what size excavator it is? A 30 metric ton machine would weigh in the 75,000 pound range.

Eddie

The pic I seen showed it was a JD 240. A salesman once told me that the first two digits tell the metric weight of a JD... so.... about 24 metric ton. Now a Cat 325 trackhoe would be the last two digits, so... 25 metric ton.


I've never seen a large trackhoe being transported with the boom to the front which leads me to believe Whom ever loaded and tied it down (probably the driver) had no clue to what they were doing.
 
/ Another bridge knocked down. #57  
Here is one for you:
Policeman: "It looks like you got stuck there."
Driver: "That is total nonsense. I am carrying that bridge and I just run out of fuel."
 

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/ Another bridge knocked down. #58  
Here is one for you:
Policeman: "It looks like you got stuck there."
Driver: "That is total nonsense. I am carrying that bridge and I just run out of fuel."
:laughing::laughing::laughing:

That one looks like an easier fix though. Just let some air out of the tires:thumbsup:
 
/ Another bridge knocked down. #59  
The two ways they do it here is by using large plates to clamp the I-Beams allowing for some expansion and contraction length wise.

The other was is with cables... lots of them... everything can move but not far enough to separate.

The cables are what you see now all over California bridges. And the plates on top of the beam flanges with oversized holes and a greased plate underneath is what I had to do when I put in my bridge. About 3 miles from 1989 Loma Prieta 6.9 epicenter.
 
/ Another bridge knocked down. #60  
I guess I don't get it but why didn't the truck seperate from the trailer. I would think that the pin would be the weak link in all the other mass being moved in this wreck.

Carl
 

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