tanmar ym1500 breathing ?

[billymc]

We have got into this before, and i forget the correct pressure releive valve. But since 284 brought it up i will mention it. Some have said that the correct filter that screws on is not right i think it is Hoye's own site (aaron i did not double check if im wrong sorry and dont hold me to it) as well as some members here.

Bottom line is that if the releive setting is to low these machine i think get higher oil pressures than say a honda civic which filter may screw on but once put on if the oil is bypassing becsuse it sets the filter off because the filter media is too restricitive or something your not filtering at all!

I know your in the UK so its not economical to order from a US company. But this is the reason i order my oil filters from HOYE. They have them made to the yanmar specs, there $19.99 for a 3 pack and with the price of gas ordering a few items quicly becomes worth not having to drive to town! Anyway, i think the better quality wix filter from carquest will run me around $6 at least it does on the saturn/toyota/ briggs filter i buy there which looks the exact same although its not. Anyway three $6 filters plus tax im up to what Hoye charges and i dont have to worry about releive setting filter media, or is it a fraction of an inch to long so my drag link busts it when i turn all the way!

ok i see a make of filter here called purex for the ym1500 so will check it out and let you all know thanks

 

[284 International]

I don't know the Cooper number for the YM1500. They don't list one on their website. Their website cross matches filter FT5447 to the Baldwin filter B421. The Fram PH3593A matches to the Baldwin 179 and 421 and the Napa/Wix 1064. Wix, as Winston posted, has a cross reference that says the YM1500 takes their 51064 filter (same as Napa 1064). FT4657, though, matches the B7100 tractor by Kubota, which is also specified to take a 1064 Napa/Wix.

All of that is why I think the filters' fit are interchangeable, though the internal specifications may not be.

Like Clemson said, we don't really know what the proper bypass pressures or anything else are for these tractors, which is why best practices would dictate ordering the proper filter from Yanmar or one of the retailers who sell the tractor specific products. It's understandable that you don't want to order internationally, but you really should be able to locate something that will work for you with that data set. Wix has a European presence. Mann filters references Wix, Baldwin, Fram, and certainly other parts numbers.

 

[billymc]

I don't know the Cooper number for the YM1500. They don't list one on their website. Their website cross matches filter FT5447 to the Baldwin filter B421. The Fram PH3593A matches to the Baldwin 179 and 421 and the Napa/Wix 1064. Wix, as Winston posted, has a cross reference that says the YM1500 takes their 51064 filter (same as Napa 1064). FT4657, though, matches the B7100 tractor by Kubota, which is also specified to take a 1064 Napa/Wix.

All of that is why I think the filters' fit are interchangeable, though the internal specifications may not be.

Like Clemson said, we don't really know what the proper bypass pressures or anything else are for these tractors, which is why best practices would dictate ordering the proper filter from Yanmar or one of the retailers who sell the tractor specific products. It's understandable that you don't want to order internationally, but you really should be able to locate something that will work for you with that data set. Wix has a European presence. Mann filters references Wix, Baldwin, Fram, and certainly other parts numbers.

i will check tomorrow online see if i can get a genuine filter or one from a agri dealer . and let you all know thanks again

 

[clemsonfor]

I don't know the Cooper number for the YM1500. They don't list one on their website. Their website cross matches filter FT5447 to the Baldwin filter B421. The Fram PH3593A matches to the Baldwin 179 and 421 and the Napa/Wix 1064. Wix, as Winston posted, has a cross reference that says the YM1500 takes their 51064 filter (same as Napa 1064). FT4657, though, matches the B7100 tractor by Kubota, which is also specified to take a 1064 Napa/Wix.

All of that is why I think the filters' fit are interchangeable, though the internal specifications may not be.

Like Clemson said, we don't really know what the proper bypass pressures or anything else are for these tractors, which is why best practices would dictate ordering the proper filter from Yanmar or one of the retailers who sell the tractor specific products. It's understandable that you don't want to order internationally, but you really should be able to locate something that will work for you with that data set. Wix has a European presence. Mann filters references Wix, Baldwin, Fram, and certainly other parts numbers.

Also for what its worth, i think i have read on both fourms like you said mark777 usese wix filters. I also beleive Tractorernie here, a dealer uses the wix filters and said he has never had a problem. As far as i remember he has been at it for over 10 years but dont hold me to that, could be 15, i just dont keep up with that?

 

[California]

Maybe I'm simpleminded. Fredricks Equipment is one of the principal importers / wholesalers of gray Yanmars to the US. In their engine parts catalog (pdf) they offer a "OF-1334" oil filter for most of the older Yanmars including 1500 and 2000/240. So I buy #1334-equivalent oil filters for my Yanmars. (ie Wix 51334). This filter is widely used on Honda and Subaru, plus many Toyota, Nissan, etc.

While bypass pressure sounds mysterious and critical, do any of us really let the oil get so dirty that the filter plugs and the bypass opens? I doubt it. So a filter with any bypass spec similar to OEM should be fine.

These things aren't rocket science; I've never heard of an oil-related engine failure. I think getting an air filter that seals properly is what deserves careful attention, instead.

 

[284 International]

... Fredricks Equipment is one of the principal importers / wholesalers of gray Yanmars to the US. In their engine parts catalog (pdf) they offer a "OF-1334" oil filter for most of the older Yanmars including 1500 and 2000/240. So I buy #1334-equivalent oil filters for my Yanmars. (ie Wix 51334). This filter is widely used on Honda and Subaru, plus many Toyota, Nissan, etc. ..

Awww, but that's rather boring than compared to fretting about whether this particular brand of filter matches in precise specification to some other one, which also crosses to three types of another brands'.....blah blah blah. :laughing:

I'm with you. The air filtration on these must be more critical than the oil filter. Repeatedly there are issues with low compression, worn valves, cylinders, rings, and the like, but there really are not many (any?) cases of bearing failures due to oiling system shortcomings. Even the guys who run milky, coolant contaminated oil in their engine seem to be operating all the same.

Make sure the intake air is clean and not allowing unfiltered air through, change the oil at reasonable intervals, and they should live an extraordinarily long time. With any amount of effort cross referencing once given a starting point, an operator anywhere in the world should be able to find something that will work.

 

[Neat 1500]

for the 1500 its a Baldwin B227, a Sakura is C-1032. these are both the correct micron and relief valve filters for it. these are the only 2 i have used. these also fit my YM14 and i have been told they fit many,many more Yanmars.

 

[billymc]

Awww, but that's rather boring than compared to fretting about whether this particular brand of filter matches in precise specification to some other one, which also crosses to three types of another brands'.....blah blah blah. :laughing:

I'm with you. The air filtration on these must be more critical than the oil filter. Repeatedly there are issues with low compression, worn valves, cylinders, rings, and the like, but there really are not many (any?) cases of bearing failures due to oiling system shortcomings. Even the guys who run milky, coolant contaminated oil in their engine seem to be operating all the same.

Make sure the intake air is clean and not allowing unfiltered air through, change the oil at reasonable intervals, and they should live an extraordinarily long time. With any amount of effort cross referencing once given a starting point, an operator anywhere in the world should be able to find something that will work.

ok guys i put wix in a search engine it came up with a few here in the uk but they are all motor factors ie like your nappa .anyway i was just reading all your reply s. and usua;;y change oil every year and filter like you im more concerned about the air filter . o i know the oil filter has to be right and like every body i look for a good price. postage is the killer so try and find stuff locak.but if push came to shove i would order from the us . as im sure if i need any major parts i will have to do that i would get a few things like filters to. well not to bore you all there is a place here that makes air filters i have just got a e mail back from a guy says around a week turnaround .anyway the airfilter i have found in stock looks the same as the link i was sent so im going to get it . the oil filter was replaced with the oil so i have a bit of time to look and find one just like to have a spare . o and iits got no numbers on it its just blue and nothing else. will keep you all posted thanks

 

[clemsonfor]

Maybe I'm simpleminded. Fredricks Equipment is one of the principal importers / wholesalers of gray Yanmars to the US. In their engine parts catalog (pdf) they offer a "OF-1334" oil filter for most of the older Yanmars including 1500 and 2000/240. So I buy #1334-equivalent oil filters for my Yanmars. (ie Wix 51334). This filter is widely used on Honda and Subaru, plus many Toyota, Nissan, etc.

While bypass pressure sounds mysterious and critical, do any of us really let the oil get so dirty that the filter plugs and the bypass opens? I doubt it. So a filter with any bypass spec similar to OEM should be fine.

These things aren't rocket science; I've never heard of an oil-related engine failure. I think getting an air filter that seals properly is what deserves careful attention, instead.

Im not arguing what you said. Im only taking what Hoye says about some of the filters not haveing the right media in them for filtering or something. I also think the bypass arguement is not about the filter being so contaminated that it plugs up and thus bypasses (maybe i dont understand oild filtering?), but i thought the problem was higher pressures causing the valve to open under clean filter circumstances? This could be totally wrong i dunno?

Anyway like i said the higher quality wix filter from carquest (have no nappa here close) which matches the 1334 # is a bit more than $6. I just order a 3 pack from Hoye when i have an order, after all by the time i Pay $6 and some change each time im up the the $19.99 that Hoye charges. Im already making an order and usually the filters does not bump my box size up to the next ship charge, so it really only cost me the base rate of before. I think everything i have had shipped has fallen under the $14.40 or whatever charge.

Yes i am one of the main gripers over this shipping cost. I know what it costs and they do not have inflated prices so that they can offer free shipping. My only argument is that if i want a half dozen o-rings why cant they be put into a regular envelope and charge me $1.50 or whatever to ship them that way. Anyway thats not my point here just dont want to seem 2 sided in my argument so i am voicing my past statements. Ok, so the 14$ shipping fee is not that bad, im sure most of you are in a boat like me. Town is 20+ miles away. Even riding in a 20mpg toyota highlander it takes 1 gallon of gas each way, that is $6+ for a round trip for me to town. Thats almost half the shipping charge there. This past weekend my saturn was down for repairs. I had to go to town twice that day once to pic up the saturn water pump i was repairing and then a second time to get a Harmonic balancer puller to fix my ranger. Only vehicle was the TOY, i spend $13 running to town to get parts!

 

[clemsonfor]

ok guys i put wix in a search engine it came up with a few here in the uk but they are all motor factors ie like your nappa .anyway i was just reading all your reply s. and usua;;y change oil every year and filter like you im more concerned about the air filter . o i know the oil filter has to be right and like every body i look for a good price. postage is the killer so try and find stuff locak.but if push came to shove i would order from the us . as im sure if i need any major parts i will have to do that i would get a few things like filters to. well not to bore you all there is a place here that makes air filters i have just got a e mail back from a guy says around a week turnaround .anyway the airfilter i have found in stock looks the same as the link i was sent so im going to get it . the oil filter was replaced with the oil so i have a bit of time to look and find one just like to have a spare . o and iits got no numbers on it its just blue and nothing else. will keep you all posted thanks

Not to worry you but what if the oil filter is just one of those that screw on and fits? :ashamed:

Just kidding!!

 

[billymc]

Not to worry you but what if the oil filter is just one of those that screw on and fits? :ashamed:

Just kidding!!

haha o i hope it ok. its coming from a agr engineering supplier its listed for the ym1500 . i was reading the 20mpg over here in the uk lot smaller vehicles and engines so you are talking 25 to 50mpg o the shipping cost if i remember is 35 for me.has anybody ever cut up a pattern one and a genuine filter to see what the difference is?

 

[clemsonfor]

u talking hoyes? im sure there as good or better, they were made to OE specs for either him or frederics tractors in AL.

 

[billymc]

u talking hoyes? im sure there as good or better, they were made to OE specs for either him or frederics tractors in AL.

o all the ones i looked at in usa are around $35 dollars to post. next year when im in canada i will get them sent to where i stay then just bring them home in luggage .or get two from nappa?

 

[California]

Don't you have Honda, Toyota, Nissan cars there?

I would look in a cross-reference table and find the car that the US filter fits, then buy a filter for the UK version of that same car.

 

[billymc]

Don't you have Honda, Toyota, Nissan cars there?
yes we have them here. im rural so not to close to a major motor factor like nappa but when im going to a bigger town that has one i will call in and see . thanks

 

[284 International]

Buy an oil filter for a 2000 Honda Accord with the small 4 cylinder. That will fit and work. Use 15W-40 or 5W-40 diesel oil. It will probably take more than 3, but less than 4 quarts/liters. I would buy 4 just to be sure.

 

[billymc]

Buy an oil filter for a 2000 Honda Accord with the small 4 cylinder. That will fit and work. Use 15W-40 or 5W-40 diesel oil. It will probably take more than 3, but less than 4 quarts/liters. I would buy 4 just to be sure.

o thanks now i know what car filter will do . we have local ?10.40 oil will it be ok

 

[clemsonfor]

o thanks now i know what car filter will do . we have local ?10.40 oil will it be ok

10w 40 will be ok AS LONG as is deisel rated. Being in europe you have more deisel small engines so your 10w40 may be more likely to be a deisel oil than over here. Here very few 10w40s are rated for deisel use. Those that are are usually made by Delo, rotella, & maybe castrol.

 

[billymc]

10w 40 will be ok AS LONG as is deisel rated. Being in europe you have more deisel small engines so your 10w40 may be more likely to be a deisel oil than over here. Here very few 10w40s are rated for deisel use. Those that are are usually made by Delo, rotella, & maybe castrol.

yes 10.40 is very popular here its a multi used in both diesel and petrol cars but will double check think its name here is castrol oil.

 

[clemsonfor]

yes 10.40 is very popular here its a multi used in both diesel and petrol cars but will double check think its name here is castrol oil.

I guess oil in europe dosent carry the API logo seal? Reason i say this is that API stands for American Pertrolium Institute, its the testing Org that tests and standardizes all oils here. Makes sure the viscosities are what they say as well as have the manufacturer required additives and anti wear qualities. Reason i say this is that I think Deisel rated oil Is the C? rating up to maybe CJ now, the pervious before that would have been CI and the next would be CK. Im thinking they go through the alphabet. Gas oil i think is S?. These i know in deisel are for c=compression and if i remember the correct letter the S=Spark (dont think its I for ignition)

Anyway i say all that to say this, we here just look for the correct lettering as listed in your owner manual or for what your putting it in.