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   / diesel for generator #151  
After reading this i contacted my bulk fuel distributor and asked him if the off road was Ultra low sulfur...and it is. They cant sell any of the higher level fuels anymore.
 
   / diesel for generator #152  
Last week....Our fuel distributor said the same thing about Gen-set fuel..which we add star-tron additive to for the creeping crud in the tanks?
 
   / diesel for generator #153  
grsthegreat said:
After reading this i contacted my bulk fuel distributor and asked him if the off road was Ultra low sulfur...and it is. They cant sell any of the higher level fuels anymore.

Did you ask him if the dyed fuel clogs up his delivery hoses? Sometimes that dye can be pretty thick! ;) LOL
 
   / diesel for generator #154  
The last off road that I bought (last week) had this sticker on the pump
 

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   / diesel for generator #155  
The last off road that I bought (last week) had this sticker on the pump

I must say the sticker confuses me? Says no '011 off road vehicles use and no on road use either. Is it only for use by prior to '011 off road vehicles?
 
   / diesel for generator #156  
I just called our bulk fuel supplier.. Our road and off road fule is 15ppm ULSD they mentioned we could even get a custom dye tint if we bought an entire tanker full.. I declined.. :)

soundguy
 
   / diesel for generator #157  
I just called our bulk fuel supplier.. Our road and off road fule is 15ppm ULSD they mentioned we could even get a custom dye tint if we bought an entire tanker full.. I declined.. :)

soundguy

tell them youll do it if they can dye it rainbow
 
   / diesel for generator #158  
I must say the sticker confuses me? Says no '011 off road vehicles use and no on road use either. Is it only for use by prior to '011 off road vehicles?
Yes

In '011 offroad vehicles (tractors, combines, kawasaki mules, etc...) have to meet the same emission standards as on road vehicles (Tier IV). So they either use a DPF (Diesel Particulate Filter) or Urea (Diesel Exhaust Fluid). The 500 ppm off-road will clog the DPF. Hence the sticker.

Locomotives don't have to meet Tier IV until 2014 and then will require ULSD (15ppm).

Regardless of what some say, all off road diesel is not 15PPM. There are still some places that you can purchase 500 PPM off road diesel.

You can read up on it here ... Nonroad Engines, Equipment, and Vehicles | US EPA .

This link ... Diesel Fuel | Fuels and Fuel Additives | US EPA tells it all.

Here is a quote from the EPA's website....

Low sulfur (500 ppm) and Ultra Low Sulfur Diesel (ULSD) fuel will be phased in for nonroad, locomotive, and marine (NRLM) engines from 2007-2014. These fuel requirements, coupled with advanced emission control technologies, will decrease emissions from these engines by more than 90%.


So, just because "your supplier" only sells ULSD off-road fuel doesn't mean that "all suppliers" only sell ULSD offroad fuel.

Chris
 
   / diesel for generator #159  
Low sulfur (500 ppm) and Ultra Low Sulfur Diesel (ULSD) fuel will be phased in for nonroad, locomotive, and marine (NRLM) engines from 2007-2014. These fuel requirements, coupled with advanced emission control technologies, will decrease emissions from these engines by more than 90%.
So, just because "your supplier" only sells ULSD off-road fuel doesn't mean that "all suppliers" only sell ULSD offroad fuel.
Unless you have a locomotive or a marine diesel engine, ULSD was phased in in 2010 and your supplier has to provide it.
http://www.epa.gov/nonroad-diesel/2004fr/420f04032.pdf said:
Second, starting in 2010, fuel sulfur levels in most nonroad diesel fuel will be reduced to 15 ppm. This ultra-low sulfur fuel will create immediate public health benefits and will make it possible for engine manufacturers to use advanced emission-control systems that will dramatically reduce both PM and NOx emissions. In the case of locomotive and marine diesel fuel, this second step will occur in 2012.

Therefor, the proper wording for the site should be "ULSD ONLY" not onroad fuel only.
See also: EPA Diesel Milestones Since the Clean Air Act Amendments of 1990 | National Clean Diesel Campaign | US EPA
Aaron Z
 
   / diesel for generator #160  
I think it was already covered that about 95% of the fuel in NA was ULSD, .. thus.. while it is not 100% gone.. for the most part.. those of us that don't own a train don't see it ;)

soundguy
 

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