Buying Advice L3200HST vs L3800HST

   / L3200HST vs L3800HST #21  
A HEAVY 7 footer is a bit much for a 3200/3800 for anything other than light grading or snow. I know because I have a 700lb 7 footer for my 3400. It is about the MAX. A 6 footer WILL cover the wheel track when fully angled, because they dont angle to 45 degrees. At least most dont. They are more like 30 degrees. And a 72" blade @ 30 degrees will cover ~62".

And even a 6 foot blade on full angle with a good bite will pull a 3200/3800 sideways.

There is a lot to learn about technique when using a RB. Like steering with the brakes, etc.

I am surprised to hear that your blade does not go to 45 degrees. I have a hydraulic and a manual rear blade and a manual landscape rake and they all go to 45 degrees. Is your blade an older blade? Maybe the older blades didn't go over to 45 degrees. I'll have to check the 6 footer that my brother has, it is very old, now I'm curious if his goes over to a 45.

I have a question for you though. Would you prefer a lighter weight blade than the 700lb one that you have?
 
   / L3200HST vs L3800HST #22  
I am surprised to hear that your blade does not go to 45 degrees. I have a hydraulic and a manual rear blade and a manual landscape rake and they all go to 45 degrees. Is your blade an older blade? Maybe the older blades didn't go over to 45 degrees. I'll have to check the 6 footer that my brother has, it is very old, now I'm curious if his goes over to a 45.

I have a question for you though. Would you prefer a lighter weight blade than the 700lb one that you have?

I have had 3 blades in the recent past. A lighter duty 7' one w/7 rearward adjustment holes, a lighter duty 6'er with 7 rear adjustment holes, and my current KK HD 7'er. I believe this one MAY go tp 45 degrees, but I know the others didnt.

And even with the others, I hardly EVER used those MAX angle holes. No need to. The dirt/snow roll off just fine with the first and second angle holes. All the outside holes do is make it harder to drive straight (pulling tractor sideways).

Even my 7.5' meyers snowplow on my truck only goes to 30 degrees MAX angle.

And I actually like the heavier blade. I dont think I would perfer a lighter one. Even with my Lighter blades, I was always stacking 4-6 cement blocks on them when doing heavy work. And 90% of the time I am using the blade in the dirt, I am also using the FEL. And a 260lb blade out back wasnt near enough weight to be effective.
 
   / L3200HST vs L3800HST #23  
I have had 3 blades in the recent past. A lighter duty 7' one w/7 rearward adjustment holes, a lighter duty 6'er with 7 rear adjustment holes, and my current KK HD 7'er. I believe this one MAY go tp 45 degrees, but I know the others didnt.

And even with the others, I hardly EVER used those MAX angle holes. No need to. The dirt/snow roll off just fine with the first and second angle holes. All the outside holes do is make it harder to drive straight (pulling tractor sideways).

Even my 7.5' meyers snowplow on my truck only goes to 30 degrees MAX angle.

And I actually like the heavier blade. I dont think I would perfer a lighter one. Even with my Lighter blades, I was always stacking 4-6 cement blocks on them when doing heavy work. And 90% of the time I am using the blade in the dirt, I am also using the FEL. And a 260lb blade out back wasnt near enough weight to be effective.

I know with my blades, if I am making a pretty good cut, it is nice to have the blade at 45*, the dirt rolls off faster and I then have little or no roll off at the leading edge. When I make lighter cuts, then 30-35 degrees works fine. Like you said, different techniques. ;)
 
   / L3200HST vs L3800HST #24  
I know with my blades, if I am making a pretty good cut, it is nice to have the blade at 45*, the dirt rolls off faster and I then have little or no roll off at the leading edge. When I make lighter cuts, then 30-35 degrees works fine. Like you said, different techniques. ;)

With only a L3200/L3800, there arent going to be any "good" cuts. It's only going to be light cuts, unless you are rolling sand or snow. These tractors are just TOO light and dont have the traction to take that kind of a bite. At least that has been my experience.
 
   / L3200HST vs L3800HST
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#25  
Land Pride blade specs:

RB2572 - 369lbs
RB2584 - 396lbs

9 Forward up to 60 degrees clockwise & counterclockwise
5 Reverse up to 60 degrees clockwise & counterclockwis
Moldboard Height 17 1/2"
Moldboard Thickness 5/16"
Cutting Edge 1/2” x 6” Heat treated Replaceable & Reversible (Double bevel)

Quick Hitch is another 70lbs.

I will be moving quite a bit of dirt to level my yard. I need a nice level spot for the hockey rink after all. :)
 
   / L3200HST vs L3800HST #26  
Typically I am a go big or go home kinda guy. I would much rather have the power and not need it, then need it and not have it. Is the 3800 worth that much over the 3200?

If you don't ever plan on selling, I'd consider the the 32, but if you ever think you might want to sell, I'd pony up for the 38. I've been casually looking at used Grand L machines, and while a properly priced 35-45HP machine vanishes almost instantly, it appears that you can't give away a 31xx. The extra few thousand up front turns into a 25% premium in resale - at least that's what it looks like to me.

JayC
 
   / L3200HST vs L3800HST #27  
The L 3200 weighs in at 2425, L3800 is 2480,and the Grand L3540 is 3296 plus the weight of the LA514 loader or the Heavy Duty LA- 724 loader with Heavy Duty Round back bucket .The Land Pride back blade spects are,
RB3584

Blade Width 84”
Approximate Weight (lbs.) 533 lbs.


DevilDog
 
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#28  
The thing that worries me the most about either tractor is the 3 pth jerkiness when trying to grade with the box blade. Is it just an annoyance or is it a major PITA?
 
   / L3200HST vs L3800HST #29  
As to the 3 point issue, it's less than ideal to be sure. I live with mine and intend to do so for a lot of years, unless I get a smoking good deal on a trade down the road sometime.

If I'd known about the 3 point when I was shopping, I would have been up a tree with indecision. It's one of very few issues with the L series tractors, but it's like a wart on a pretty woman's nose. You can't help but notice it, and it's always there.

You need to try one with a box or rear blade on it and decide for yourself.

As to rear blade width, I have a 6 foot 1572 blade that I bought used, and added hydraulic angle to it. It gets used mostly for snow removal, and smoothing loose materials.

At full angle with the hydraulics, the angle is between 30 and 40 degrees, I'm not **** enough to measure it. It does just cover the wheel track with R1 tires. Less than ideal for snow removal since you can't shove snow back without driving through it. A 7 foot blade would have been better for me, it's ok for moving ground though. As LD1 mentioned, an angled blade will shove the tractor sideways with a full load of heavy snow on the blade unless you're down to bare ground, and it tries even then. A longer blade means more leverage on the tractor.

Other than weight to help push the cutting edge down, an 1872 is likely going to be all the blade you'll need for a 35 HP tractor. Mine is on the light side as the 15 series, and the 3400 would have to work pretty hard to bend it. I've stalled the tractor a couple of times and had no damage to the blade. If you hit something at speed it will bend, yes.
In my opinion, which is just that, the 25 series is overkill for the 3200 or 3800.

Teg's point about the lack of a suspension seat on the L3700 SU is a valid one. If you're on smooth ground it's ok, but any kind of field work on rough ground and you may wish you had one.

Either of these tractors may be difficult to add hydraulic rear remotes, if you want power angle on your rear blade (read as "You will want power angle") it's best to price the cost of adding at least a single remote when you buy. It usually costs more later. At the time I added mine, a "kit" wasn't available for the L series tractors with valve, pre-made lines, quick connects etc. If you're handy around machinery, you can piece it together as I did.

Sean
 
   / L3200HST vs L3800HST
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#30  
I will be using the blade for leveling earth on a treed property I bought for my yard. I then planned to use the box blade for more precise grading after the blade. Are these the best two implements for accomplishing what I need? The blade will then be used afterwards to keep my 200' driveway clear in the winter which is at a 5-10% grade.

I was thinking the 25 series because I was worried about snagging a large root or rock when grading the yard and bending the blade. I figured the extra weight wouldn't hurt either. Am I out to lunch?
 

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