Put my gooseneck to work!

KrayzKajun · Mar 22, 2011

pulled a nice load saturday. picked up some materials for a few landscape jobs have lined up. the back 3 pallets weigh 2800lbs each, 70 bags of topsoil at 40lbs each per pallet. front 2 are mulch 60bags per pallet.
Built for Tough!

jopickens · Mar 22, 2011

KrayzKajun · Mar 22, 2011

nice load there my man!:thumbsup:

Diamondpilot · Mar 22, 2011

Them are some big stumps. You did not load them with that little tractor did you?

Chris

Dmace · Mar 22, 2011

Notice the Dodge is sitting level and the Ford is squatting.
Sorry Chris, I had to.

:thumbsup:

Both those trucks look great pulling some heavy trailers!

CompactTractorFan · Mar 22, 2011

Dmace said:
Notice the Dodge is sitting level and the Ford is squatting.
Sorry Chris, I had to. :thumbsup:

Both those trucks look great pulling some heavy trailers!

:thumbsup:

Diamondpilot · Mar 22, 2011

Dmace said:
Notice the Dodge is sitting level and the Ford is squatting.
Sorry Chris, I had to. :thumbsup:

Both those trucks look great pulling some heavy trailers!

I actually though it was old Chevy when I first looked at it. Did not blow up the pic.

I agree the Ford is squatting a bit but that is 3 times the load them stumps are.

Heck, my F-250 and my GMC 3500 would squat like a pig until I learned more about GVWR's. I ordered my F-350 as tough as it could be. On a late model F-250 for example there is something like 9 GVWR's available. Its so hard to tell what it has without looking at the door sticker. That is a problem with Fords. I know so many people who bought like I did not knowing there is a difference between two otherwise identical F-250's. GM and Dodge keep it simple and only have a few packages.

Chris

JB4310 · Mar 22, 2011

Diamondpilot said:
I agree the Ford is squatting a bit but that is 3 times the load them stumps are.
Chris

Both those loads are massive for SRW pick ups IMO

The weight on the ford is not as well distributed, (to much on the tongue) as on the Dodge. But I don't agree that those stumps weigh just 1/3 the weight of the pallets of landscape materials. Those stumps are monsters.

Probably weigh equal, maybe more. Just guessing, but no way just a third as heavy IMO.

JB.

Dmace · Mar 22, 2011

JB4310 said:
Probably weigh equal, maybe more. Just guessing, but no way just a third as heavy IMO.

I agree. I had three 36" white pines taken down and was left with the stumps that were certainly too big for my little backhoe. I had a friend bring over his JD 490D excavator to pop them out. We had a local stump removal guy come in with an old logging truck that he converted into a stump hauling truck and even his boom couldn't lift the stumps. He said he could lift around 4,000 lbs fully extended but couldn't lift my three stumps so we had to load them with the excavator. I bet those monster stumps are quite a bit heavier too!

Duffster · Mar 22, 2011

JB4310 said:
The weight on the ford is not as well distributed, (to much on the tongue) as on the Dodge.

Exactly.

some zilch · Mar 22, 2011

that load of landscape material is loaded improperly and is clearly too heavy on that truck-(the way it is loaded). your headlights are pointing at the sky, and there is no weight on the front end. i would spend my money on air bags or more leaf springs rather than big rims and stickers

Duffster · Mar 22, 2011

some zilch said:
there is no weight on the front end.

Really?

JB4310 · Mar 22, 2011

Dmace said:
We had a local stump removal guy come in with an old logging truck that he converted into a stump hauling truck and even his boom couldn't lift the stumps. He said he could lift around 4,000 lbs fully extended but couldn't lift my three stumps so we had to load them with the excavator.

I had the exact same experience, and was gonna mention it. Mine was an oak though but not as large as those shown. My buddy has a dedicated log hauler, brand new in 2005 and he could not get my stump off the ground. I ended up wrecking a bar and chain cutting that stump down.

Maybe Chris was just kidding

JB.

Diamondpilot · Mar 22, 2011

I just did 5 pallets of mulch so I know what it weights. There are 12 layers of 5 bags per layer @ 40# each with the water content on mine. I weighed one and it was 39#. With the pallet its about 2,450# each. Times his two and he is at 4,900# then he has the 4 pallets of soil at about 2,850# each with the pallet. Thats 8,550# of dirt and pallets. The trailer is probably in the 4,600# range.

Thats puts his total load at 18,050#. No way them stumps weighed anywhere near that with the trailer. Maybe 12,000#. So yes, I was exaggerating when I said it was 3 times but 2 times is more like it for the load.

Chris

KrayzKajun · Mar 22, 2011

Diamondpilot said:
I just did 5 pallets of mulch so I know what it weights. There are 12 layers of 5 bags per layer @ 40# each with the water content on mine. I weighed one and it was 39#. With the pallet its about 2,450# each. Times his two and he is at 4,900# then he has the 4 pallets of soil at about 2,850# each with the pallet. Thats 8,550# of dirt and pallets. The trailer is probably in the 4,600# range.

Thats puts his total load at 18,050#. No way them stumps weighed anywhere near that with the trailer. Maybe 12,000#. So yes, I was exaggerating when I said it was 3 times but 2 times is more like it for the load.

Chris

bingo! it was loaded as evenly as possible! plus im parked over the drain in front my house (dip in th street) airbags were ordered last night.

i woudnt normally put tht much on the trailer. but took advantage of getting the material onsale

rdln · Mar 23, 2011

Looks like a good argument for popup, hydraulic or no beavertail with long stowaway ramps.

schmism · Mar 23, 2011

seriously.... why does ANYONE go with bagged materials for that amount of material.

i mean bulk mulch has to be 1/4 the price and topsoil a tenth of the price...

JB4310 · Mar 23, 2011

Diamondpilot said:
I just did 5 pallets of mulch so I know what it weights. There are 12 layers of 5 bags per layer @ 40# each with the water content on mine. I weighed one and it was 39#. With the pallet its about 2,450# each. Times his two and he is at 4,900# then he has the 4 pallets of soil at about 2,850# each with the pallet. Thats 8,550# of dirt and pallets. The trailer is probably in the 4,600# range.

Thats puts his total load at 18,050#. No way them stumps weighed anywhere near that with the trailer. Maybe 12,000#. So yes, I was exaggerating when I said it was 3 times but 2 times is more like it for the load.

Chris

I don't Know Chris, did you ever try and lift a stump like one of those shown?

Maybe the picture is deceiving, but I still vote those stumps are not only more than half the weight of the landscape materials, but if I had to bet I'd go with the stumps weighing more.

You're saying the stumps only weigh 3.5 tons? I say closer to double that

Stumps are brutally heavy, they wont even take them at our vegetation landfill, they are so dense they take for ever to break down.

JB

tractorboy5500 · Mar 23, 2011

I agree with JB on this, but this is just my option, I know very well that stumps are heavy, and those are very large stumps on that trailer, both loads on each trailer are heavy buy alot, but if I had to put money on it I would go with the stumps, that doent mean I am right, but I know that stumps are very heavy, Who evey has the pics of the stumps, what was it loaded with???

tractorboy5500 · Mar 23, 2011

Here is a load on my trailer and 08 Dodge truck, To me it seems to be sitting level or maybe just a tad low in the rear. The tractor is a Mahindra 5500 4x4 around 9000lbs plus, some might disagree so I will break it down, tractor weight is 6380 lbs dry weight, FEL is 1900lbs, and tires with water is 1060lbs as per the tire water chart, tool on 3-point maybe 90lbs. The 10 round bales are 4x5, what was advertised, I am not real sure of the correct weight of the bales, but i guessed around 800 to 1000lbs. Maybe someone on here can help with the weight on round bails, I would say i might have alot of tong weight, the trailer and truck handled it very well.