Ford vs Chevy - No, it's not about your favorite brand...

[RayCo]

This is an 04, and the angle doesn't really strike me as extreme, or even really all that noticeable.

 

[Diamondpilot]

My old Ford's would squat like a dog dropping a duece with half that weight in it.

Of course they did.

Chris

 

[Dmace]

Of course they did.

Need a little proof?

Exhibit A: (2010 Chevy 3/4 ton, 10k lb trailer)
SITTING LEVEL

Exhibit B: (2010 Dodge 3/4 ton, 10k lb trailer)
SITTING LEVEL

Exhibit C: (2010 Ford 3/4 ton, 10k lb trailer)
NOT SITTING LEVEL

That's only a little tongue weight, imagine a full payload...

All pictures from pickuptrucks.com and their 2010 Heavy Duty Truck Shootout.

 

[LD1]

I am not a ford fan at all, and I dont mean to stir the pot because I am a dodge and chevy man, but if I was a ford man, I'd probabally say something like...................

That ford looks like it is squatting more because it is accelerating MUCH harder. More weight transfer.:laughing:

 

[AGGIE00]

My favorite setup is the softer springs and airbags. I put 2.5" of lift on my 07 2500 dodge diesel to level it out, but it doesn't take much weight in the back to give it the Texas tilt. I used the airbags to remedy this and I love it and wouldn't have a heavy duty truck without them.

 

[Builder]

My '00 Ford F-350 Superduty diesel only had a 4,900 lb front axle rating. I had to install F-550 front springs in it just so I could plow snow without bottoming out. Here's a picture of my old Ford with only a 8,000lb trailer. Notice the squat, even with a 2" rear lift kit. The front is nose high even with very little tongue weight. I never should have altered the suspension on mine. Even at stock height, I was envious of the GM HD for loading/unloading.

Another thing I dislike about Fords is working out of them all day. They sit so sky high you practically need a step ladder to get materials out of the bed. It's no wonder they have the "manstep". The truck is practically inaccesible without it.




Thing I like about the DMAX engine is it weighs ~400lbs less than the Powestroke because of use of aluminum. It enables the GM truck to carry more weight on the front axle, or equal a Ford with a 400lb or higher front GAWR because the DMAX is 400lbs lighter and the front axle components on the GM truck are lighter than Ford's. I find the GM's have a lower tailgate height, so after the hundredth sheet of 5/8" plywood, your back is still feeling OK. I couldn't imagine going back to the Ford-type truck again because of the height alone. My knees & back would be shot. Seems like a lot of guys switch to GM's in their 40's just to trade the jacked up macho look for a more ergonomic, easily accessible smoother riding truck like a GM HD.


Here's my '07 GMC 3500 4x4. Sits dead level.

 

[CompactTractorFan]

Need a little proof?

Exhibit A: (2010 Chevy 3/4 ton, 10k lb trailer)
SITTING LEVEL

Exhibit B: (2010 Dodge 3/4 ton, 10k lb trailer)
SITTING LEVEL

Exhibit C: (2010 Ford 3/4 ton, 10k lb trailer)
NOT SITTING LEVEL

That's only a little tongue weight, imagine a full payload...

All pictures from pickuptrucks.com and their 2010 Heavy Duty Truck Shootout.

I wonder...Did they use a WD hitch???

 

[Duffster]

My '00 Ford F-350 Superduty diesel only had a 4,900 lb front axle rating. I had to install F-550 front springs in it just so I could plow snow without bottoming out. Here's a picture of my old Ford with only a 8,000lb trailer. Notice the squat, even with a 2" rear lift kit. The front is nose high even with very little tongue weight. I never should have altered the suspension on mine. Even at stock height, I was envious of the GM HD for loading/unloading.

Another thing I dislike about Fords is working out of them all day. They sit so sky high you practically need a step ladder to get materials out of the bed. It's no wonder they have the "manstep". The truck is practically inaccesible without it.




Thing I like about the DMAX engine is it weighs ~400lbs less than the Powestroke because of use of aluminum. It enables the GM truck to carry more weight on the front axle, or equal a Ford with a 400lb or higher front GAWR because the DMAX is 400lbs lighter and the front axle components on the GM truck are lighter than Ford's. I find the GM's have a lower tailgate height, so after the hundredth sheet of 5/8" plywood, your back is still feeling OK. I couldn't imagine going back to the Ford-type truck again because of the height alone. My knees & back would be shot. Seems like a lot of guys switch to GM's in their 40's just to trade the jacked up macho look for a more ergonomic, easily accessible smoother riding truck like a GM HD.


Here's my '07 GMC 3500 4x4. Sits dead level.

The picture of your Ford really proves nothing as it is obvious that isn't stock ride height on either end.

 

[Dmace]

I wonder...Did they use a WD hitch???

The Ford and Dodge had them but the GM has a 13,000lb tow rating without the WD hitch so they didn't use it.

Also worth mentioning is that the GM three-quarter-ton trucks can tow conventionally up to 13,000 pounds on their bumper hitch without requiring weight-distributing equalizer bars. We saved lots of time hooking and unhooking the GM trucks to their trailers compared with the Ford and Chrysler pickups, which require equalizers for trailers weighing more than 6,000 pounds.

http://special-reports.pickuptrucks.com/2010/08/2010-hd-threequarterton-gasoline-trucks-srw.html

 

[Diamondpilot]

Not to get into all the particulars here but Ford offers something like 7 spring packages for different GVWR's. GM and Dodge only offer the 1. If a WD hitch was used the guy did into know what he was doing or it was not setup right.

My F-250 will squat like a pig with 1,800# tongue weight. My 3500 Dmax would squat just the same. My f-350 with the proper package only sets down a few inches and the truck sits perfectly level with 15,600# and 1,800# of tongue weight. I pull that load 5,000 miles or so a year at 60-75 mph with no issues or tire wear.

Fords can be had so many ways its hard to tell what that truck has.

Chris