FORD 2000 3CYL GAS WONT FIRE

[CHEEKS]

JUST BOUGHT A 68 TO 75 FORD 3CYL GAS ,,WAS SITTIN FOR 8 MONTHS,REPLACED ALL IGNITION STUFF AND FINALLY HAVE GOOD SPARK BUT SHE WONT FIRE EVEN WITH STARTING FLUID,PLUGS LOOK WET WHEN I CHECK EM,I MIXED SOME NEW GAS IN WITH OLD THAT I THOUGHT WASNT BAD??,MAYBE IT IS?BUT SHOULD FIRE ON ETHER?.IM CRANKIN IT WITH AN AUTO BATTERY..ANY HELP ON THIS TRACTOR?.THROTTLE AND CHOKE TOUCHY? HOLLEY CARB LEAKED FUEL WHEN I INITIALLY STARTED TURNIN OVER BUT NOW APPEARS OK..THANKYOU

 

[Soundguy]

the holey carbs can be finicky..

IF you do have good spark.. it should fire on ether.

pull the plugs.. spray clean them with carb cleaner and allow to air dry.. reinsert..

that machine was meant for a large 4dlt battery.. not a small car battery... I'd hook a couple bats in parallel to help it.

spray start fluid right into carb intake as you turn her over. stay off the choke.

post back. ps.. what tranny you got?

soundguy

 

[Depmandog]

Run a compression check on the cylinders. I restored a Farmall 706, and during the process of trying to get it started, I washed the cylinders (the gas removed the oil from the rings and left me with no compression). I took and squirted a bit of oil in the cylinders and was the able to restore compression and get it started. She belched some smoke for a bit but smoothed out within a minute.

Hope this helps

 

[CHEEKS]

THANKS SO MUCH,IM NOT SURE WHAT MODEL I HAVE,JUST BOUGHT IT AND WANT IT RUNNING,I CAN DRIVE IT HOME ITS SO CLOSE,THE BATTERY WAS HUGE AND I WILL TRY MY FRESH CAR BATTERY AND JUMP IT AS WELL.I THOUGHT IT COULD TURN FASTER,ALSO THE THROTTLE IS AT SLOW WHEN PULLED BACK TOWARDS SEAT CORRECT?..IM NEW TO THIS TRACTORMAYBE IM FLOODIN IT,,BUT IT SHOULD POP ON ETHER..TRY TO ATTACH PIC 2000 OR 3000 68 TO 74 I THINK,,THANKS SO MUCH..JIM

the holey carbs can be finicky..

IF you do have good spark.. it should fire on ether.

pull the plugs.. spray clean them with carb cleaner and allow to air dry.. reinsert..

that machine was meant for a large 4dlt battery.. not a small car battery... I'd hook a couple bats in parallel to help it.

spray start fluid right into carb intake as you turn her over. stay off the choke.

post back. ps.. what tranny you got?

soundguy

 

[CHEEKS]

THANKYOU SO MUCH,WILL TRY IF I CANT GET HER TOMM,,JIM

Run a compression check on the cylinders. I restored a Farmall 706, and during the process of trying to get it started, I washed the cylinders (the gas removed the oil from the rings and left me with no compression). I took and squirted a bit of oil in the cylinders and was the able to restore compression and get it started. She belched some smoke for a bit but smoothed out within a minute.

Hope this helps

 

[Soundguy]

model really don't matter.. not much differences.. 2000 was the economy unit.

yes.. if it has spark and compression and good timing.. it should pop on clean plugs and start fluid.

soundguy

 

[Jimmy Joe]

Timing is what I thought also, are the cap wires in the right place?

 

[CHEEKS]

I HAVE MADE SURE WIRES AND CONNECTIONS ARE GOOD,,I THINK I FLOOD IT AND WONDER IF OIL ON TOP OF PISTONS MIGHT HELP..I THINK I NEED STRONGER CRANKING BATTERY ETC,,AND THROTTLE IS SLOW PULLED TOWARDS SEAT CORRECT?..THANKYOU

Timing is what I thought also, are the cap wires in the right place?

 

[CHEEKS]

LOOKING AT MOTOR FROM CARB SIDE,CYLs ARE 123 LEFT TO RIGHT?.DIST 1 IS MARKED,THEN 2 AND 3 COUNTER CLOCKWISE?

Timing is what I thought also, are the cap wires in the right place?

 

[Soundguy]

i dont own a gasser.. but on my 3000 diesel.. down is more throttle..

low comp can be helped on a 1-time basis by a teaspoon of oil to seal the rings. however if it has 0 comp.. it's not just a rings issue. even worn rings will make enough compression to make pops thru the manifold.. ( stuck valves can cause problems! )

soundguy

 

[Jbrink64]

LOOKING AT MOTOR FROM CARB SIDE,CYLs ARE 123 LEFT TO RIGHT?.DIST 1 IS MARKED,THEN 2 AND 3 COUNTER CLOCKWISE?

#1 is on the fan end, 3 at the gas tank. CCW rotation, looking down at the rotor

 

[milkman636]

i dont own a gasser.. but on my 3000 diesel.. down is more throttle..

soundguy

Sound guy is right about the throttle.

Its been ten years since I sold my 3 cyl. 2000 gasser, but I remember pulling the throttle back toward the seat when I wanted more gas. I'd be pulling that throttle back half way or better and choking her. It's nearly impossible to flood those things out with that updraft carb. If your getting good gas flow and you have been cranking it alot without starting, you should see signs of gas dripping down into the air intake pipe on the bottom of the carb.

The condenser, points, cap and rotor were the only issues I ever had with mine starting. There's alot of manuals out there for these tractors. It may be wise to spend a little time at a farm store browsing the ignition sections to see if there is a manual that may help ensure that you set all the sparking parts right.

 

[Jerry/MT]

#1 is on the fan end, 3 at the gas tank. CCW rotation, looking down at the rotor

You open the throttle by pulling the lever down.
Axiom:You have to have a good spark at the right time andthe correct fuel/air ratio to start a spark ignition engine in reasonable mechanical shape.

Pull the center wire on the distributor cap, hold it near a good ground and try a start. You should have a FAT, BLUISH-WHITE SPARK, the color of lightning. If you don't, then something is not right in the primary ignition circuit. (oily, corroded, maladjusted, or burned points, bad condensor, bad key switch, broken primary wire, bad connection, etc.) Check to make sure that you have the correct firing order. Did you rotate the distributor at all? If so you may have moved it off time.

If you have the requisite spark, then do you have fuel to the carb? Are the plugs wet with fuel?

Do some simple diagnostics of the ignition system and the fuel system and you'll find the problem. Don't throw parts at it.

 

[CHEEKS]

THANKS A MILLION,I HAVE SOME TIME IN AM TO TINKER WITH IT AND ILL KEEP U POSTED,REALLY NICE OF YOU TO HELP..JIM

i dont own a gasser.. but on my 3000 diesel.. down is more throttle..

low comp can be helped on a 1-time basis by a teaspoon of oil to seal the rings. however if it has 0 comp.. it's not just a rings issue. even worn rings will make enough compression to make pops thru the manifold.. ( stuck valves can cause problems! )

soundguy

 

[CHEEKS]

THANKS ALOT.I HAVE GOOD SPARK AT PLUGS AND REPLACED ALL IGNITION FROM COIL TO PLUGS BUT FOR 3 WIRES WHICH SHOW UP GOOD AS HAVING CONTINUITY ANYWAY,POINTS,COND,CAP,ROTOR,PLUGS AND 1 WIRE WHICH WAS BAD FOR SURE ANDI MADE A NEW ONE..I THINK I WAS FLOODING IT AS IVE HAD THE THROTTLE PULLED DOWN MOSTLY..INITIALLY I GOT SOME GAS DRIPPING OUT CARB BOTTOM BUT THAT STOPPED,GAS IS SUPPOSEDLY 11 MONTHS OLD AND DOESNT REALLY SMELL BAB BAD,,I MIXED A GAL OR SO OF NEW IN..GOIN BACK THIS AM,WILL RECHECK POINTS GAP,DRY PLUGS,DOUBLE BATTERY TO CRANK AS I WAS USIN A CAR BATTERY BUT SEEMED TO TURN IT OK,MAYBE NEEDS A BIT FASTER CRANK,IT HAS TO POP ON ETHER!!! THANKS,JIM.

You open the throttle by pulling the lever down.
Axiom:You have to have a good spark at the right time andthe correct fuel/air ratio to start a spark ignition engine in reasonable mechanical shape.

Pull the center wire on the distributor cap, hold it near a good ground and try a start. You should have a FAT, BLUISH-WHITE SPARK, the color of lightning. If you don't, then something is not right in the primary ignition circuit. (oily, corroded, maladjusted, or burned points, bad condensor, bad key switch, broken primary wire, bad connection, etc.) Check to make sure that you have the correct firing order. Did you rotate the distributor at all? If so you may have moved it off time.

If you have the requisite spark, then do you have fuel to the carb? Are the plugs wet with fuel?

Do some simple diagnostics of the ignition system and the fuel system and you'll find the problem. Don't throw parts at it.

 

[CHEEKS]

THANKYOU,THATS THE WAY THE WIRES ARE,FUNNY,INTAKE IS MARKED 123 AND YOU WOULD THINK CYLs WERE IN THE ORDER THEY READ ON MANIFOLD..BUT NOT HUH.GOIN TO TRY AGAIN THIS AM,,JIM

#1 is on the fan end, 3 at the gas tank. CCW rotation, looking down at the rotor

 

[RickB]

THANKYOU,THATS THE WAY THE WIRES ARE,FUNNY,INTAKE IS MARKED 123 AND YOU WOULD THINK CYLs WERE IN THE ORDER THEY READ ON MANIFOLD..BUT NOT HUH.GOIN TO TRY AGAIN THIS AM,,JIM

The firing order is cast into the manifold and is 1-2-3 and so labelled. Firing order does not refer to cylinder number arrangement in the engine, but the order in which sparkplug wires are attached to the distributer, in the direction of normal rotation. Most, but not all inline engines number the cylinders from front to back, or pulley to flywheel.

Be polite and turn your caps LOCK OFF!

 

[CHEEKS]

THANKYOU,MY NEW TRACTOR IS HOME AT MY BARN!!..I RECHECKED ALL MY CONNECTIONS,RESET POINT GAP..DID TSP OF OIL IN 2 EASY CYLINDERS..THEN I HAD THROTTLE ROD IN PROPER POSITION,ALL THE WAY UP,HARD..JUMPED MY TRUCK TO FRESH BAT ON TRACTOR..INSTEAD OF BLOWING ETHER IN CARB BOTTOM I REALLY JUST KEPT SQUIRTING IN AIR INTAKE ALOT,,IT SLOWLY STARTED TO STRNG SOME POPS TOGETHER!!!.THEN IT RAN!!..RAN IT FOR 15,,NO SMOKE OUT OF STACK AT ALL,ALL SEEMED WELL,,TSTAT DIDNT OPEN YET BUT I WANTED TO GET IT HOME,,OIL IS BLACK AND IN A PERFECT WORLD I WOULD HAVE CHANGED IT BEFORE THE 3.5 MILE RIDE HOME,,,WORKED GREAT UP AND DOWN HILLS ETC,,LOT OF SMOKE OUT OF CRANKCASE VENT...DIRTY OIL?..AFTER PARKED IT DRIPPED SOME WHITISH GOO OUT OF THERE TOO,MAYBE A TLBS...THANKS SOUNDGUY,,JIM

THANKS A MILLION,I HAVE SOME TIME IN AM TO TINKER WITH IT AND ILL KEEP U POSTED,REALLY NICE OF YOU TO HELP..JIM

 

[CHEEKS]

THANKS,CAPS LOCK IS EASY TO READ FOR MANY,GOT NOTHIN TO DO WITH POLITENESS

The firing order is cast into the manifold and is 1-2-3 and so labelled. Firing order does not refer to cylinder number arrangement in the engine, but the order in which sparkplug wires are attached to the distributer, in the direction of normal rotation. Most, but not all inline engines number the cylinders from front to back, or pulley to flywheel.

Be polite and turn your caps LOCK OFF!

 

[RickB]

THANKS,CAPS LOCK IS EASY TO READ FOR MANY,GOT NOTHIN TO DO WITH POLITENESS

Many folks find all caps annoying and hard to read. It is certainly your choice.