L3700SU??

[montelatici]

Believe me, I love Kubota. I own a Kubota and my next tractor will be a Kubota but you can't broadbrush Mahindra just because of an impression of overall industrial quality being lower.

Mahindra has won some significant quality awards.

From their website:

"In its quality journey, the Farm Sector has won the Deming Application Prize in 2003, followed by the Japan Quality Medal in 2007. It is the 20th Company in the world and only the 2nd company in India to achieve this distinction."

http://www.tractorforum.com/f202/who-else-dissatisfied-mahindra-12490/

 

[gaugeguy]

I'm new to the forum and based on the size of my property (20 acres about 1/2 woods) I'm thinking that this is about the size I am looking for. I have about a 1/2 mile of road to maintain, gravel to move, stumps to pull and brush to clear.

I prices a L3700SU at 2 local dealers in Spokane, WA area and I think they are both a little high......

L3700SU $19,250 filled tires and delivered. Fiberglass Canopy for ROPS $475.00 and a Land Pride #RBT1572 72" Rear Blade W/ Tilt and Angle.

Does this seem to far out of range? I guess that I'd like to support the local guy but I dont want to get taken too.

 

[VT6Kubota]

http://www.tractorforum.com/f202/who-else-dissatisfied-mahindra-12490/

I have a friend who bought an Indian made motorcycle several years ago, his story is very much like the tractor ones on the other site.

 

[VT6Kubota]

I'm new to the forum and based on the size of my property (20 acres about 1/2 woods) I'm thinking that this is about the size I am looking for. I have about a 1/2 mile of road to maintain, gravel to move, stumps to pull and brush to clear.

I prices a L3700SU at 2 local dealers in Spokane, WA area and I think they are both a little high......

L3700SU $19,250 filled tires and delivered. Fiberglass Canopy for ROPS $475.00 and a Land Pride #RBT1572 72" Rear Blade W/ Tilt and Angle.

Does this seem to far out of range? I guess that I'd like to support the local guy but I dont want to get taken too.

Maybe we should just repeat the $15.7k story from the beginning of this thread to our respective dealers and see what their reaction is. :laughing:

does the $19,250 price include the blade? we have Kubota Dealers around every corner here so I think they are pretty competitive with each other, plus it seems the cost of everything in Vermont and our sister state of Washington may be a bit more than the rest of the country in general.

 

[gaugeguy]

Maybe we should just repeat the $15.7k story from the beginning of this thread to our respective dealers and see what their reaction is. :laughing:

does the $19,250 price include the blade? we have Kubota Dealers around every corner here so I think they are pretty competitive with each other, plus it seems the cost of everything in Vermont and our sister state of Washington may be a bit more than the rest of the country in general.

Yes, the $19,250 does include the loader/bucket.

 

[peterc38]

http://www.tractorforum.com/f202/who-else-dissatisfied-mahindra-12490/

Ok, so you found some disatisfied Mahindra owners, wow. You could say the same about any brand even Kubota.

Again, I'm not trying to say they are better than Kubota or not. Obviously based on my previous statements I am a Kubota guy.

I stand by what I said, if you had learned anything about the criteria for winning those awards in your capacity of oversight for industrial cooperation agreements, you would know they don't give those awards out to just anyone.

Deming in particular and his predecessor Walter Shewhart are 2 of the pioneers of quality methodologies of japanese industry and indeed even worldwide.

Sorry to have presented an opposing viewpoint to your own.

 

[montelatici]

Ok, so you found some disatisfied Mahindra owners, wow. You could say the same about any brand even Kubota.

A whole thread with user after user expressing disppointment?

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I stand by what I said, if you had learned anything about the criteria for winning those awards in your capacity of oversight for industrial cooperation agreements, you would know they don't give those awards out to just anyone.
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Actually, those awards are sometimes very "political", particularly with the Indians. If you read the defense procurement regulations in India they appear as sophisticated (and fair) as those in the most developed nations. When you see what happens in practice, you realize that they have just copied regulations and go about procuring defense products in the corrupt manner they are used to. Same in the quality department, great policies and procedures, but little adherence to them in reality. Sorry, I have been there, done that.

 

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So, you can see why I have to totally disagree with your experience, at least in my area.

I do not think you can disagree with my experience as it was my experience. There are other ways of stating this differential that may be a bit more clear.

 

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I think you can compare a other Japanese or even Korean made tractors to Kubota, but to compare a Mahindra to a Kubota is nonsense.

I travel at least once a year to India and oversee some industrial cooperation agreements and the overall industrial quality level in India is lower than China. In a decade or so they may catch up but right now there is no comparison.

The Mahindra tractors I looked at were made in Korea.

 

[montelatici]

The Mahindra tractors I looked at were made in Korea.

In that case they were Tong Yang tractors rebadged by Mahindra. I understand that Mahindra added them because Mahindra don't make tractors in certain popular sizes/power/features and could not have a complete line on their own. When inevitably, Mahindra changes supplier, you have to wonder if they will be as good as John Deere is at continuing to support those tractors.