ID These Berries for ME

[LD1]

I have several of these berries which I thought were elderberries. They look similar to elderberries, but the elderberries are rime now and these are still bluish green, and have a hard green pit im the middle. They are also larger than the elderberries, have a clear juice, and the leaves are a little different. The leaves have smooth edges and the elderberries are a little saw-toothed.

So heres pics of the berries and leaves.

 

[LD1]

Here are some known pics of the elderberry growing about 5ft away from the previous berries. Notice the leaves are a little different.

 

[LD1]

A comparison of the berries.

Are these a different type of elderberry??

Are they just @ different stages of ripeness??

Or a totally different berry???

 

[dave1949]

Those are no way related to elderberry.

Looks close to saskatoon or blue berry, but not quite.
Dave.

 

[gotrocks]

Looks like they could be huckleberries.

Google Image Result for http://www.cals.uidaho.edu/sandpoint/images/Cascade%20Huckleberry.jpg

 

[LD1]

Looks like they could be huckleberries.

Google Image Result for http://www.cals.uidaho.edu/sandpoint/images/Cascade%20Huckleberry.jpg

I have looked at the huckleberries and I dont think it is them. I have yet to find a pic online after about an hour of searching that looks like these. The closest I have fould were the blue elderberries. But the green pit in the middle makes me wonder.

These grow just like elderberries. Starting as a flower, then changing to all green berries. When the berries start turning, they start drooping. And the way they grow in clusters is similar the elderberries. I actually thought thats what they were, but after waiting a week for them to ripen to the blackish color, with no change, I started looking. I couldn't find anything so I figured I'd post pics and see if you guys could lay a finger on it.

 

[LD1]

Here are some more pics of the same type of plant/bush that is in post 1.

These are in the back and only get morning sun so they arent as ripe as the ones I posted earlier that get full sun. But I assure you they are the same.

Hopefully these will help out some more

 

[Egon]

Not Saskatoon.

 

[rekees4300]

Silky Dogwood?

Saratoga woods and waterways: Berry Hunting

 

[dave1949]

Very close to white dogwood, which have more pronounced ribs/veins in the leaves. I have lots of white dogwood, just looked closely this evening.
Dave.

 

[LD1]

Yep. I just did a google images search for both dogwood berries and "dogwood flower cluster" And I thing it is indeed a dogwood.

The flower cluster pics look just like they did about a month ago. But the flowers are long gon or I'd post pics.

I thought dogwoods grew as trees. These kinda grow in clusters like a giant bush?? Maybe thats how they grow in the wild??

Does anyone else agree to them being dogwoods???

 

[dave1949]

I have a white dogwood that is about 16-18 feet tall. Most are much shorter, around 4-5 feet. The tall one was doing so well I released it by cutting off a couple maples that where starting to over-reach it and shade it out.

What I have seen is the main stems die off after about 4-5 years, but new stems come up from the ground beside them. I think mine is really more shrub than tree.

The birds must eat the berries, like yours, mine don't stay long on the clusters. I also have many volunteers coming up along the trails. I am guessing that is the work of song birds. Eating the berries and pooping the seeds.
Dave.

 

[YesDeere]

Egon, I go to Straussburg SK every year waterfowlin. And before our gracious guides mother died (rest her soul I miss her) She used to make the best saskatoon pies!!!!:licking:

 

[keegs]

I have several of these berries which I thought were elderberries. They look similar to elderberries, but the elderberries are rime now and these are still bluish green, and have a hard green pit im the middle. They are also larger than the elderberries, have a clear juice, and the leaves are a little different. The leaves have smooth edges and the elderberries are a little saw-toothed.

So heres pics of the berries and leaves.

Any photos of the flower?

 

[LD1]

No, no pics of the flower. At least not until next spring-early summer.

But going to google images and searching "dogwood flower cluster" results a to of pics that look just like them when the flowers are on.

like these http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3655/3560212534_8c657a1c7d.jpg


Not to mention the distinctive leaves. The way the veins curve and are very visable. Looks just like the ones in my pics.

 

[keegs]

I was thinking black huckleberry..but it's a WAG really.

 

[mjfox6]

Silky Dogwood?

Saratoga woods and waterways: Berry Hunting

I agree. Look at the pictures on this page: Sheffields

 

[Ford850]

Looks like some of our shrub or hedge type dogwoods. There are several varieties. They are quite a bit different than dogwood trees.